Things happening very fast in my miserable life so not able to post often

@hars1988 are you going for the overhaul in SC or from outside mechanic ?

@all one mechanic in castrol bike zone told me long back to change the timing chain at 50,000 kms even if there is nothing wrong with it ....is that true ? as my ride has crossed 55,000 kms .

Just came back from a 400km trip down south....the gear shift are butter smooth thanks to veedol swift...already completed 1800kms and the oil feels like new lol...i will try to keep this for at least 3000 kms...last time i went over 3k+ kms before i drained it for changing clutch plate .

One of my friend gave a full raise when the bike was in neutral and he did it 2 times .
Not 2 times in a row but 1 in this day and 1 in the other..
From that day my bike is giving my less mileage 45-55 in city..
I fought with him because of this..
Plz help me guys .. was this the reason which is giving me less mileage or my bike is calling it for its 1st free service?

Svc guy also revved my bike to max for 3 sec continuously , imo it shouldnt affect mileage that much , also 45+ in city is good enough , mine gives 49 in city and 57 in highways . How much odo ? New bikes have high internal friction therefore have bit lesser mileage.

Hi Guys,


I am having HH Hunk 2008 model. I've completed 45K kms on it. I use 10W30 grade engine oil, bike is been serviced on regular intervals since the day 1.
The only change/repair i did till date related to engine is clutch palates and tappet setting once i completed 20K kms.

now the problem with my bike are as below.

1. it vibrates a lot on above 5K rpm. when i ride it above 80 kmph, i don't feel enough confident in cutting lanes on highways due to vibrations.
2. mileage dropped between 35-40 kmpl depends upon riding condition.
3. pick up reduced..


Please Suggest me what to do further to resolve above mentioned issues.

Thanks.

As the bike has done 45K kms and the head not opened even once it is very common to have this problem.
1.Remove the head and clean the carbon deposits from the head and piston top manually.
2.Polish the valves,inspect the valves and guides. Replace if needed.
3.Clean the carburetor thoroughly and re-tune it.

Mileage and smoothness should return to normal and engine heating will also decrease.

Why did he revv the bike ? Just for fun ?
During the PDI of my friends bike,the mechanic who was doing the PDI revved the bike very hard for 10 secs(Rev limiter was getting activated and one could easily hear the misfire due to spark getting cut off) even after me telling his specifically in not doing so.
I refused to take the delivery of that bike and picked up another bike from the stock yard.

Incident while purchasing my bike :-

When the a PDI mechanic was "just about to revv my bike" during PDI after connecting the battery and starting for the first time ,I caught his hands and looked straight into his eyes with anger. The head mechanic told the other mechanic who was doing PDI to just do whatever he(I) says because he came from regional office.

Most of the bikes need early parts replacement just because of engine being redlined as soon as the bike is started. I was given a reason that it helps in faster lubrication of the internals,my foot ! When I asked him how does the help,he was blank and I could see him shivering because no one else had stopped them doing this in their entire service.

This practice of redlining the bikes by SVC must be stopped. Apparently,they do this to all the bikes during PDI,servicing,washing,to demonstrate the customer how the bike is smoking at high revs.

+1000 shoeb da , mine was leaking oil due to cut o ring near neutral switch , that moron revved bike to see where oil leaked , i leapt and switched off bike , i could hear bike cry at those revs. Nevermind my bike had done something 900km at that time , so damage was not much , but yeah during PDI i saw svc guys revving , ripping new bikes and customer as pillion was happy with performance , thanks to this forum i learnt about run in and pdi . Also my friends always tease me by saying that "xtreme bhaagti nai hai" , but i dont pay any heed to their words as i know this bike is made for high speed cruising , it has best of both worlds looks and performance

Once some senior people from hero came to this SC i was visiting and they gathered every mech in that SC and were telling them not to revv the bike like you described - they all listened in rapt attention - he showed them how to gently handle the throttle etc - right after he left the service area all the mechs started laughing .

Today when i was cruising on the highway i tried to downshift for a bus only to find out my gear lever was gone - it just fell off and was being dragged on road - managed to plonk it right back in and kept it in place my pressing it with my feet - SC repaired it for Rs 30 .

hi guys was bbus with my job and all so couldnt participate in thread discussion. I am having a problem these days. after 18K kms my chain is almost dead,it keeps loosing and all mech's told me to change it so will i very soon. gear feels harsh no matter what oil i use. moreover when today i went to a uphill ride with a pillion i couldnt pull in 2nd gear,and when i tried to accelerate bike felt like losing fuel(sudden jerks and loss of pickup) so i had to travel whole 150-200mts in 1st gear and u know how harsh that feels. Any reason for this particular behavior in inclined roades. It was not like this earlier. I feel its due to either lean mixture or some tappets/valve adjustment, what do u guys feel about it ????


Regards

No matter what you tell them,they do whatever they think it is correct.
A person at hero regional office was telling me that hero spends a lot of money in training the mechanics and the customer relations officer but the very next day they start showing their original behavior. There is a saying in Hindi "Kutte ki dum kabhi sedhi nahi ho sakte"(A dog's tail can never be straightened)

Did that #8 bolt fall off ? Time to find a good independent mechanic.... SVC mechanics fiddle with almost everything which you don't want and not touch want you want.

EDIT : Can you post a picture of your xtreme ? If I am correct it is a 2009 model ?

I have got your PM, and also seen your Help me thread, be patient as i will post all the details of what to check and what all defects can crop up and also what is the procedure to correct it. So hold some patience and i will post a detail reply.

As usual VEEDOL showed its worth, and i think your search for better oil ends here. I have not yet tried Super swift on my extreme. There is no need of changing timing chain as it needs to be changed only when they make sound. Usually vertical engine timing chain runs for 60-70 k before needing replacement.
Man you are doing so much of trips, what is your profession.

It is not a problem, rest assured as engines are made tougher than these to solder on with much more abuses.
Your bike has not yet completed first service, and you are getting excellent mileage, so nothing to worry.
As Shoeb has said, your engine requires half overhaul as 45k is quite a lot distance. So open the head, clean it manually, polish the valves and inspect them for bents, and also check the rocker arms for worn bearings, check the clutch plates and also clean and re-tune the carburettor.


Man, those non automobile enthusiastic friends are very difficult lot to handle as they do not know any thing about bikes and they have an attitude that they know so much about bikes. And leave along revving the bike, i never let my friends touch my bikes key, and some think that i am too possesive about my bike, but it doesn't matter to me as in the end of the day, it is my bike that matters to me and not they.
And those SVC mechanics are the greatest fool on earth and even more fools are those that do PDI. While i took delivery, as the battery was connected, first person to touch that self button was i, and the bike was idled for 15 minutes, even before any one was allowed to touch the accelerator.
And leave the nature of people as 90% of people who buys bigger bikes of 125 cc and more buy it only to RIP it like their ass is on fire and nothing else.

Revving the bike is a great joy for those idiots in service center. People are dumb and nothing else.
And regarding "extreme bhaagti nahi hai", then just smile at them and tell that what to do i bought it by mistake, and keep quite, The feeling is like that because extreme makes its torque at 6500 rpm and unless and until it crosses 5500 rpm, the bike feels worse than 100 cc bike in pull,but once it crosses 6k rpm, it completely changes into beast.

Below 5k rpm i will say that my Joy Pulls far better than extreme, as in my joy just touch the accelerator and it will pull like a diesel engine. With a idling of 900 rpm, in my joy if you slide the clutch half way, in idle the engine will pull from standing start which the extreme can never pull. As for an example my Joy feels like an diesel engine which can pull from extremlely low rpm and extreme feels like a petrol engine which only pulls till redline after it enters its power band. It is this feeling which makes the extreme feel not pulling.

An Update:-
In my Joy i had not done the last free service and the coupon is still with me after 12 years very much like new, and in my pleasure last two free service are still left as i never went to them. All this was because of horrible service by service center.
But first time in my extreme, i had gone for completely all free service and this sunday i had gone for paid service because of warranty.But next time no SVC as they have no idea what to do in bike, as the mechanic had tightened the chain like cycle chain with no free play, and the servicing is so costly that, by the time if some problem comes and you claim warranty, the cost of servicing would have gone way more that cost of parts to be replaced. Also for doing any work under warranty, it becomes difficult like hell, and if it is engine related work, then rest assured your engine will be fu***d.
From the next time, i will service on my own and if i do not have time, i will take it to my mechanic.

Another update:-

Last sunday our member ashislakra, had come to show his hunk to my mechanic as his bike was gobbling fuel like crazy and bike had a terrific top end. He was finding it problem to keep up with my JOY in city as i very well know that my joy torque cannot be matched by hunk in city. More over his bike was faulty. My mechanic just by hearing told that carburretor is badly tuned and also the body parts were vibrating. So he re-tuned the carb and also completely solved the vibrations of body. Ashis took a ride and was surprised that bike is feeling relaxed at 70 kph as if it is just walking. He was so pleased with my mechanic that next day he bought his sister's pleasure which had some problems, and i am sure that would have been solved.
I would request ashish lakra to post here about his experience.

And regarding Runnin in of new engine, i will tell you all an interesting story, tommorrow.

gave my bike to local mechanic

and am good in breaking almost use only front break


but last month when am @80aprox on highway a bus suddenly took right turn (my tyres are bald,cracked and rock hard) i breaked hard and released when bike is about to skid with 2 such intervals i managed to stop but who knows next time i may panic so i decided to go to slightly biggerthan stock so decided 110/80-18 but mrf dont have this size
so have no option left other than psd

but now you gave me a shock psd is rs 4000rs.am thought like around 2800

dont have 4k so will stick to stock mrfzy 100/90

Try Dunlop geo cruiser , some batches of xtreme had those tyres , they are better than stock zappers and cost almost same or less

hi guys was bbus with my job and all so couldnt participate in thread discussion. I am having a problem these days. after 18K kms my chain is almost dead,it keeps loosing and all mech's told me to change it so will i very soon. gear feels harsh no matter what oil i use. moreover when today i went to a uphill ride with a pillion i couldnt pull in 2nd gear,and when i tried to accelerate bike felt like losing fuel(sudden jerks and loss of pickup) so i had to travel whole 150-200mts in 1st gear and u know how harsh that feels. Any reason for this particular behavior in inclined roades. It was not like this earlier. I feel its due to either lean mixture or some tappets/valve adjustment, what do u guys feel about it ????

also i want to tune my carb as described by sibun but i cant figure out the mentioned brass tube/pipe to be disconnected and blocked before tuning so that RPM is increased as desired. A pic of the same will be helpfull. having a hard time with my bike in dissatisfaction.

Regards

+1 someone please post a snap i need this one cleared before i touch the carb .

Its the AIS pipe. Just block it.

A pipe goes from this thing and connects to the intake manifold, disconnect it and seal the hole at intake manifold.