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  • Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post
    @rohit-Congrats for your new bike.
    If I'm not mistaken then I believe you are from Delhi.Right?
    congrats buddy for owning The LOTS (The Lord of The Streets - as they say...). best of luck for taming the beast and keep posting your observations and experiences.
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    • Originally posted by jeyessh View Post
      around 50rs for two levers....
      50 or 150?
      i was quoted 150 for each!
      and he too refereed to it as "Buffing"
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      • Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
        50 or 150?
        i was quoted 150 for each!
        and he too refereed to it as "Buffing"
        Who has quoted that much of amt?
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        • hey rahulsmile here are the pics of an orange fz with orange rim strips...
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          • Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
            50 or 150?
            i was quoted 150 for each!
            and he too refereed to it as "Buffing"

            im sure man its 50 rs.....i got it done around 6 months back...
            there is another one aluminium finish that only costs high...

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            • Originally posted by jit_j_thomas View Post
              On my RC its Yamaha Fazer. I think you should get it corrected.
              Even I have a fazer, it says FZ-16ST on my card (I assume ST stands for sport touring). You sure it's a problem? Basically both the bikes are the same anyway...

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              • Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post
                hey rahulsmile here are the pics of an orange fz with orange rim strips...

                WOW..Thanxx a Lot for the Pics man..Ur Bike Looks.awesome with those....n i love the shine On ur Bike..:-)..awesome..cheers...:-)..
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                • Originally posted by raulsmile89 View Post
                  WOW..Thanxx a Lot for the Pics man..Ur Bike Looks.awesome with those....n i love the shine On ur Bike..:-)..awesome..cheers...:-)..
                  that shine takes up at least 2 hours of my time every two weeks.... but totally worth it...
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                  • Originally posted by s_and_m View Post
                    Guys,

                    My chain has gone loose and the SVC guy said its at the end of its adjustment (means cannot be tightened any more and needs to be replaced). So I procured a chain for the FZ. Now, please tell me if I have to change the sprocket set as well - what are the disadvantages of running with the current set?

                    Thanks in advance
                    Bumpp!

                    Anyone with any knowledge about this?

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                    • Originally posted by s_and_m View Post
                      Bumpp!

                      Anyone with any knowledge about this?
                      Mine with lots of adjustment left and they say it's gone. It's making occasional clicking noise, but running fine.
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                      • Originally posted by s_and_m View Post
                        Bumpp!

                        Anyone with any knowledge about this?
                        Yep, you have to chane the sprocket set together with the chain, and it is recomended also.

                        The thing is, the frictional force between the old sprocket teeth and the new chain is lower than that of between the new set. Because of this friction loss, some amount of the power transmit from the engine is lost and therefore the perfomance will go down(though you not notice it)

                        Wonder why? Well, with the milage, the metal parts of the chain and the sprockets get "polished"(wear out) because of the continuos "rubbing" between the surfaces. This reduces the frictional force between them. So each "rubbing" will cause the surfaces to slip because of the less friction, hence some amount of power will lost at the time of the contact between the surfaces. In this way old sprockets and chain will cause loss of power!

                        So if you put a new chain with old sprocket set, still there are "polished" teeth in the combination, so less friction, so there will be a power loss. It is like you try to ride your bike on a polished surface, like on a tiled floor, the bike will slip, won't it? That happens because of no adequate frinctional force between the tyre and the floor. Same scenario happens with the chain as well.

                        So changing both sprockets and chain will guarantee you that there will be increased and sufficient friction between them, hence less loss of force.

                        Now you wonder why we lubricate chains, don't you? Well that is to minimize wear and tear and also oil will act as a cooling agent for the chain! By lubricating, we ensure that there will be minimum wear and hence increased life of the chain, but the main objective of lubrication is to free movement of links(O-rings), rather than lubricating the surface between the teeth and chain!

                        Mind you these power losses are neither marginal nor significant, but in the long run it will affect the mileage and performances.

                        You know why the chain has that "polished" like surface, well, that is to minimise the frictional force. Funny ha, no, that is a wonderful application of mechanical engineering really. Chain and sprockets are high speed frictional parts, they rub their surfaces very fast, so if there is incresed frictional force between the surfaces, the power will loose by the form of sound and heat(try rubbing two stones fiercly, you will get sound, often sparks). So the amount of power loss is more evident, therefore engineers try to minimise this frictional force to some level, actually try to kept in a optimum operating level by perfectly balancing it!

                        Chain is a vital part of the bike. No matter how much power an engine can produce, there is no use of it if it fails to transmit power to the rear wheel. This is a marvellous engineering application in a place where we don't figure out that it is there. There is a perfect balance.

                        Phew, I hope you got it! I tried my best to explain it. Try change your chain together with the sprocket set.

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                        • Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post
                          that shine takes up at least 2 hours of my time every two weeks.... but totally worth it...
                          Dats totally worth it dude... Tried any polish on? i would like to know if so..

                          Btw are the stipes reflective? i checked one here with a reflective stripe and it was different to say the least couldn really comment if it was good or bad as it jus swayed away in a jiffy
                          Smoke Rubber - But beware its even more addictive...

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                          • Originally posted by FZmAn!ac View Post
                            Dats totally worth it dude... Tried any polish on? i would like to know if so..

                            Btw are the stipes reflective? i checked one here with a reflective stripe and it was different to say the least couldn really comment if it was good or bad as it jus swayed away in a jiffy
                            am using a 3m polish with scratch remover.... it is good.... cost around 100rs

                            mine are reflective strips...
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                            • Have any of you had to replace the Cone set?,if yes after how many KM's was that?
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                              • Originally posted by deville_56 View Post
                                Mine with lots of adjustment left and they say it's gone. It's making occasional clicking noise, but running fine.
                                Hmm.. ok.. but since I have the chain already, i think i'll change it up.

                                Originally posted by Dan_GP View Post
                                Yep, you have to chane the sprocket set together with the chain, and it is recomended also.

                                The thing is, the frictional force between the old sprocket teeth and the new chain is lower than that of between the new set. Because of this friction loss, some amount of the power transmit from the engine is lost and therefore the perfomance will go down(though you not notice it)

                                Wonder why? Well, with the milage, the metal parts of the chain and the sprockets get "polished"(wear out) because of the continuos "rubbing" between the surfaces. This reduces the frictional force between them. So each "rubbing" will cause the surfaces to slip because of the less friction, hence some amount of power will lost at the time of the contact between the surfaces. In this way old sprockets and chain will cause loss of power!

                                So if you put a new chain with old sprocket set, still there are "polished" teeth in the combination, so less friction, so there will be a power loss. It is like you try to ride your bike on a polished surface, like on a tiled floor, the bike will slip, won't it? That happens because of no adequate frinctional force between the tyre and the floor. Same scenario happens with the chain as well.

                                So changing both sprockets and chain will guarantee you that there will be increased and sufficient friction between them, hence less loss of force.

                                Now you wonder why we lubricate chains, don't you? Well that is to minimize wear and tear and also oil will act as a cooling agent for the chain! By lubricating, we ensure that there will be minimum wear and hence increased life of the chain, but the main objective of lubrication is to free movement of links(O-rings), rather than lubricating the surface between the teeth and chain!

                                Mind you these power losses are neither marginal nor significant, but in the long run it will affect the mileage and performances.

                                You know why the chain has that "polished" like surface, well, that is to minimise the frictional force. Funny ha, no, that is a wonderful application of mechanical engineering really. Chain and sprockets are high speed frictional parts, they rub their surfaces very fast, so if there is incresed frictional force between the surfaces, the power will loose by the form of sound and heat(try rubbing two stones fiercly, you will get sound, often sparks). So the amount of power loss is more evident, therefore engineers try to minimise this frictional force to some level, actually try to kept in a optimum operating level by perfectly balancing it!

                                Chain is a vital part of the bike. No matter how much power an engine can produce, there is no use of it if it fails to transmit power to the rear wheel. This is a marvellous engineering application in a place where we don't figure out that it is there. There is a perfect balance.

                                Phew, I hope you got it! I tried my best to explain it. Try change your chain together with the sprocket set.
                                Wow! What a wonderful write up! Thanks a lot for this man! Really appreciate it . I'll start hunting for sprockets now.
                                Last edited by s_and_m; 10-14-2010, 01:54 AM.

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