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  • thanks guys!

    Originally posted by Rashid View Post
    My bike Suzuki SS+ had this problem,at every service i report this issue and they adjust clutch and gear-shifting losses its smoothness for a week or so, But now after about 9 Services downshifting issue is resolved almost completly

    Originally posted by raj157 View Post
    Dont worry . its a common problem i guess. Even i face the same thing. just alweys try to keep the bike in the gear from which the bike will be able to pull. and if u stop at 5th and then try to down shift this will happen but it wont happen when u r rolling
    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Its the right way.
    so mines a common situation then.. was afraid ma beast had a fault!

    Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
    It's okay man don't concentrate on that too much. There are lots of things to check in run-in period. Your mind is on different things like checking the RPM meter because this bike is so aggressive that if you lose your concentration then it land you up like you are in a race track. So don't bother these things. Even if you get stuck, have patience just rev slightly a bit and you get your gears working. Complete your run-in period wisely. As my friend says it will treat you back the way you treated her.

    I'd like to share a funny experience. One of my friend was accompanying me to a 35km journey one Sunday morning and at that time bike was just 350kms ODO. He didn't ask to ride my bike but I gave him (As I always do, my character). Before giving the bike I gave him orders. Change the gears between 3-3.5 RPM and your cruising speed will range from 41-48 km/hr with variations. This fella rode the bike as I told with much difficulty and while returning he said that he was done with the riding and he wanted me to see how I rode. And when he observed my riding style, he was marveled at my patience towards the bike. He thought how a 80km/hr cruising guy keep the bike's speed at 41-45 km/hr???

    The truth I want to say is I'm not enjoying the run-in period. I'm waiting to rip my babe hard overtaking all......
    i do the same here too bro! ... but sometimes i feel the beast's power and would love to rip it! but the greatest challenge is to control that feeling! im successful on that till now hope ill control till 2-3 services!
    Last edited by samcentor; 07-24-2012, 06:54 PM.

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    • Originally posted by eminem4ever View Post
      Just a quick question,It's been a year since i got my Yamaha Fz-s great bike done a little above 15k's and now battery has gone kaput and out of warranty,so which is the best battery for this bike? Sorry,Not sure about batteries and stuff.
      Also,due to heavy rains and muddy terrain the chain looses it's smoothiness soon :\ how can that be prevented?

      Thanks.
      A battery usually goes kaput if basic maintenance is not taken care of.. Besides mechanical failure which is very minute or rare... Do check the terminals of the battery.. If there is too much rust and green stuff formation.. Then most likely, the svc or mechanic from where you got your servicing done never bothered to service the battery. Or the cells must be running dry as the electrolyte inside has evaporated..

      Anyways, to answer your query.. I would suggest trying a 5/9 amp amaron or exide battery.. It will take a bit more kms to charge up but would be able to handle any extra electrical mods that you may have done or are interested in installing like HID and stuff... If your running is not that high per year.. Then once in 6 months you will have to charge it with the local battery shop which cost around Rs. 20/30.. Such batteries are maintenance free that is they don't need constant monitoring of the water level and stuff. However, you will have to ensure that the terminals are kept clean and greased or petroleum jelly applied on them to prevent rusting. Maintenance free batts are bit expensive but totally worth it and usually come with 3- 5yrs of warranty.

      Cheers,
      Last edited by shv18; 07-24-2012, 08:09 PM.
      A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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      • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
        Yes, engine oils have a certain lifespan, but don't worry: you are still well inside with about a half a year, even if you only did 1,100 km! With this oil, you can do another six months and that distance again, no problem!

        You can, however, have a "look" at the oil: rub your fingers with oil on them , look at the color, smell it (all this compared with brand new oil), etc... Will give you a lot of info on its condition.
        I changed the oil and filter on one of our Detroit V12 twin supercharged deck engines the other day...Took almost 11Gallons!! Glad I'm not paying for it!!!
        2013 Ducati M795 with a few mods in here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...95-owners.html
        Want to talk about modding your FZ? http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tech-talk.html
        My videos http://www.youtube.com/user/FZSMik/videos

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        • Originally posted by shv18 View Post

          Maintenance free batts are bit expensive but totally worth it and usually come with 3- 5yrs of warranty.

          Cheers,
          Look at getting a Lithium battery. Totally 100% maintenance free. Fully sealed. Very small footprint compared to a wet cell battery. You are paying for peace of mind. When my battery dies I'll swap one for that. the Li battery is about 1/4 the size of the factory battery in the FZ.
          2013 Ducati M795 with a few mods in here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...95-owners.html
          Want to talk about modding your FZ? http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tech-talk.html
          My videos http://www.youtube.com/user/FZSMik/videos

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          • Hey guy, I am new here, just have a question regarding Milage.

            I have a Yamaha Fazer Midnight Special Edition, got it during last Diwali.
            Its only been around 8 months and I have done around 5250 kms.. just got the fourth service done past week.

            The average I am getting is around 30-34, which I have counted 3 times. Is this normal for Fazer. I have heard these bikes give low milage but is this ok?

            I am not a very a person whose revs the bike unnecessarily. I shift alright.

            The only thing is I use the clutch a lot. I use it even when I am just slowing down my bike not stopping it. Could this be the cause of low milage? I have heard from a lot of people using clutch a lot reduces milage..

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            • Originally posted by rahlp View Post
              Hey guy, I am new here, just have a question regarding Milage.

              I have a Yamaha Fazer Midnight Special Edition, got it during last Diwali.
              Its only been around 8 months and I have done around 5250 kms.. just got the fourth service done past week.

              The average I am getting is around 30-34, which I have counted 3 times. Is this normal for Fazer. I have heard these bikes give low milage but is this ok?

              I am not a very a person whose revs the bike unnecessarily. I shift alright.

              The only thing is I use the clutch a lot. I use it even when I am just slowing down my bike not stopping it. Could this be the cause of low milage? I have heard from a lot of people using clutch a lot reduces milage..

              Wellcome to xbhp ...
              well my fz16(2008) 54k odo haveing avg of 30 to 35 kmpl but i always rev it hard and its okie for me ....

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              • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                If you are still riding her at 3.5 - 4k rpm after crossing 750 kms then the run in process is not right. Post 500 kms as per the manual you can take her till 6000 rpm... Vary the throttle and keep her close to 6k rpm and then alter yout throttle to keep her at 6k for some time and then bring it down, in between do a gear change and then again push her to 6k. The objective here is to give better load to the engine and its internal's to break in the engine properly. In between take her all the way to the red line but only for about 10-15 seconds and then bring her back to 6k rpm or lesser. Its like making your bike go through a gym routine.. .. Proper loading more muscles and endurance..

                Cheers,
                Hey Shiv

                Doing it exactly as you are saying, I hope everything will get right. Now I'm enjoying my riding, lots of overtaking today. Yeah I'm giving load to the engine as you said and want to push her more and more every 100 km. I hope engine break-in period is 1000 km according to the manual and you stand by it.

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                • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
                  You are right!

                  What is asked, if I understand it right, is if the whole exhaust after the resonator and catalytic converted (also called "midship muffler" by Yamaha) can be removed, to look (and sound?) like the KTM Duke 200?
                  My answer there will also be a definite NO. The resonator is not a muffler, and it houses parts that divert some of the gases through the catalytic converter (the external loop)
                  See this picture about that:



                  However, for those who may be tempted to remove the catalytic converter and all the loops and perforated pipes inside the resonator, the answer is YES....and this answer comes from ...Joel Joseph, who even suggested to remove the whole thing and replace it by a piece of pipe "to remove all the obstructions" (his words).
                  That is one thing he does for his Free Flow Exhaust, BUT ALSO A LOT OF OTHER REFINEMENTS, and what other aftermarket exhaust suppliers do too. See the complete line form Yamato, designed specifically for the FZ16:



                  ....or by Yoshimura:



                  ....but this is no amateur's job, effectively, rather a complex one!!

                  For my (modified= 200cc.) engine, I had a temporary header pipe made in mild steel, thick wall, and of the same (smallish) diameter all long up to where it connected to the (aftermarket) muffler. Very good: constant torque all the way, and a real will of the engine to rev-up, and this with the db. killer fitted on the muffler, giving a very acceptable sound level!
                  Then I had a lovely stainless steel one made of the same OUTER diameter as the stock one, and then increasing to fit into the (exaggerated) inlet size of the muffler.

                  I lost power!!!! Could only accept to have the db. killer removed, lost much torque anyway, and I feel embarrassed when driving through residential ares with the NOISE the thing does!!! Header pipe too big!

                  Then (again) kind Sir Joel came to the rescue. One thing he told me, and that is not at all obvious when looking at it, is that the stock header pipe of the FZ is a double wall, meaning there is a second pipe fitted inside the outer one, much smaller! Thinking I was smart just following the stock outer diameter was...a plain mistake! He also showed a real gentleman and gave me the basic dimensions (diameters and lengths) to suit my 200cc. engine. Will get that done soon and post pics then.

                  No need to say that all the new parts I shall fit from now onwards (camshaft, air filter, race clutch springs...) will come from Race Concepts! So sorry I ( and Mik!) did not order exclusively from him right from the beginning instead or Indonesian automotivespartsshop mistake
                  thanks a ton for answering my question with pictures you have talked and shown some sense into me....
                  by yamaha naming it midship muffler i thought everything was in that box and the little silencer for for extra refinement.
                  isnt there any way to make fazers silencer like the one on duke, not sound like it just look like it..
                  Built like a bike, goes like a rocket--KTM DUKE 390

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                  • Originally posted by rahlp View Post
                    Hey guy, I am new here, just have a question regarding Milage.

                    I have a Yamaha Fazer Midnight Special Edition, got it during last Diwali.
                    Its only been around 8 months and I have done around 5250 kms.. just got the fourth service done past week.

                    The average I am getting is around 30-34, which I have counted 3 times. Is this normal for Fazer. I have heard these bikes give low milage but is this ok?

                    I am not a very a person whose revs the bike unnecessarily. I shift alright.

                    The only thing is I use the clutch a lot. I use it even when I am just slowing down my bike not stopping it. Could this be the cause of low milage? I have heard from a lot of people using clutch a lot reduces milage..
                    Unwanted gear changes and frenquent use of clutch will reduce FE figure drastically.. Learn how your ride functions in traffic and change gears accordingly. Since, Fz/Fazer by default has lower grunt, you can at times ride her on 5th gear even when hitting speeds under 30kmph.. To take a lead one gear down and you can accelerate her. If you like to rip too much then that can also result in low FE figures.

                    On a mechanical level get the air to fuel ratio or AFR of the carburetor checked in your next service.. If the setting has been kept on rich then the FE goes down drastically.


                    Cheers,
                    Last edited by shv18; 07-25-2012, 04:46 PM.
                    A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                    • Hiee shv

                      how we know that AFR is richer or lean ???

                      and thanks for the chain sprocket issue mine front sprocket has been gone worst as 7 out of 14 teeth has been totaly rip off and any time i can be in big trouble thanks for help....

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                      • Originally posted by vinay1552 View Post
                        Hiee shv

                        how we know that AFR is richer or lean ???

                        and thanks for the chain sprocket issue mine front sprocket has been gone worst as 7 out of 14 teeth has been totaly rip off and any time i can be in big trouble thanks for help....
                        So what the SVC guys had earlier diagnosed about the chain and sprockets life for 6000 kms more was by not checking any of the parts by physical inspection or opening the front sprocket bay I presume right? See that's why it is a good idea to sit on their head and get things done.. No wonder why you were having so many issues.. Your chain sprockets have been over used and I must say consider yourself lucky that none of them gave away while riding in high speeds.. Would have had a catastrophic experience otherwise. Anyways please replace both chain and sprockets together as a set.. Shouldnot cost you more than 1300 bucks for the genuine kit from Yamaha.

                        For carburetor tuning one can check the following thread: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop...rburettor.html

                        General way of checking out the tuning scene is to see the condition of the spark plug... Whitish colour on the electrodes means lean tuning I.e. Less fuel getting pumped in the combustion chamber and in the longer run will damage the engine... Its like making someone do hard labour and then offer one piece of flake from a bowl of corn flakes to replenish energy.. Won't work right?? Not exactly a great example but I hope you get the picture.. You may end up getting a lot of mileage but will end up footing in more bill for damaged engine in the long run.

                        Rich tuning, the spark plug will have extremely black or gooey substance piling up on the electrodes.. Initally results in the bike having a lot more power and top end but then as the kms go by, the valves and piston having large deposits of carbon and gunk and thus reduction in performance eventually. Rich tuning results in drop in mileage but more power..

                        Correct tuning, if I remember correctly Mik had also mentioned it few posts back.. The electrodes of the spark plug will be brown or chocolate brown colour.

                        In local Indian mechanic's terms: more mileage=lean tuning, more performance=rich tuning.

                        Cheers,
                        Last edited by shv18; 07-25-2012, 05:15 PM.
                        A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                        • shv

                          1200 for chain Sprocket set and just change stock spark plug with new stock one as the old one was dry and little burn type but brown color type mean above 2 or 3 ring are coco color ..

                          is my AFR is okie or lean or richer???

                          added new spark plug 1 week ago so when i recheck that plug again ???
                          Last edited by vinay1552; 07-25-2012, 05:48 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by vinay1552 View Post
                            shv

                            1200 for chain Sprocket set and just change stock spark plug with new stock one as the old one was dry and little burn type but brown color type mean above 2 or 3 ring are coco color ..

                            is my AFR is okie or lean or richer???
                            Didn't get you. Since, you have installed the new spark plug... Get it opened up once and match the condition with the attached image below.. Each image shows what the colour and the condition means.

                            It is that simple.

                            Cheers,
                            A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                            • shv its carbon fouling type...

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                              • Originally posted by vinay1552 View Post
                                shv its carbon fouling type...
                                Please read carefully what I have mentioned.. Check the condition of the NEW spark plug which you have installed and not the old one.. What has been the FE figures doing tankfull method... That gives a better idea about the engine health as well..

                                Cheers,
                                A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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