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  • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
    Check the condition of the NEW spark plug which you have installed and not the old one.. What has been the FE figures doing tankfull method... That gives a better idea about the engine health as well..

    Cheers,
    thanks for your help and all info

    Proud to be Xbhpains and Fzains

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    • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
      Unwanted gear changes and frenquent use of clutch will reduce FE figure drastically.. Learn how your ride functions in traffic and change gears accordingly. Since, Fz/Fazer by default has lower grunt, you can at times ride her on 5th gear even when hitting speeds under 30kmph.. To take a lead one gear down and you can accelerate her. If you like to rip too much then that can also result in low FE figures.

      On a mechanical level get the air to fuel ratio or AFR of the carburetor checked in your next service.. If the setting has been kept on rich then the FE goes down drastically.


      Cheers,
      Hey Thanks for the reply, I usually ride in 2nd/ 3rd Gear in Traffic. And top gear on empty roads.

      And I dont rip the bike much, does it affect a lot? because my brother too rides the bike..

      I will keep in mind about the AFR during my next service which is 50 days away.

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      • Originally posted by rahlp View Post
        Hey guy, I am new here, just have a question regarding Milage.

        I have a Yamaha Fazer Midnight Special Edition, got it during last Diwali.
        Its only been around 8 months and I have done around 5250 kms.. just got the fourth service done past week.

        The average I am getting is around 30-34, which I have counted 3 times. Is this normal for Fazer. I have heard these bikes give low milage but is this ok?

        I am not a very a person whose revs the bike unnecessarily. I shift alright.

        The only thing is I use the clutch a lot. I use it even when I am just slowing down my bike not stopping it. Could this be the cause of low milage? I have heard from a lot of people using clutch a lot reduces milage..
        Mileage you are getting is perfectly normal for FZ or Fazer other than few exceptions.
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        FZ-S(2009), Honda City AT(2009), Santro AT 2005
        Zen(2000)(Sold), RX-100(Sold)

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        • Originally posted by rahlp View Post
          Hey guy, I am new here, just have a question regarding Milage.

          I have a Yamaha Fazer Midnight Special Edition, got it during last Diwali.
          Its only been around 8 months and I have done around 5250 kms.. just got the fourth service done past week.

          The average I am getting is around 30-34, which I have counted 3 times. Is this normal for Fazer. I have heard these bikes give low milage but is this ok?

          I am not a very a person whose revs the bike unnecessarily. I shift alright.

          The only thing is I use the clutch a lot. I use it even when I am just slowing down my bike not stopping it. Could this be the cause of low milage? I have heard from a lot of people using clutch a lot reduces milage..

          I think your carburettor hasn't been touched yet (stock settings). As SVC guys don't touch the carburettor till 5000km. I think during the next service tell them to tune your bike and surely you will get good mileage. Why do you use clutch a lot? It's better try to ride avoiding clutch on low gears and use clutch only for gear changing. I sometimes even try to manage to troll without holding clutch in first and second gears. Practice and use clutch only when you are changing gears (it's traditional suggestion)

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          • Hey Shiv

            Thanks for your suggestions and now the bike feels smoother than before. I'm doing some aggressive gear changes @ 4-5 rpm ranges and also giving sudden bursts upto 6k RPM as you told and it works like a charm. Gear changes are getting smoother and smoother and bike engine feels smoother. And also liking people's attention on me. Just enjoying every bit with my baby.


            Guys I wanted to ask a question about engine warning lamp when ignition switched is on. What's this lamp for? Will this lamp start blinking when the oil level is low or when engine gets extreme hot due to some other issues? Just wanted to know how this engine lamp warning light can warn us.

            Regards

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            • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
              you can at times ride her on 5th gear even when hitting speeds under 30kmph..
              Seriously man, you don't need to be in 5th gear at 30kph. Undergearing a engine is putting much much more stress on it and carbonizing up the internals to say the least. Have you heard a car engine undergeared? ie 3rd gear @20kph? Have you heard the rattles? That's the bearings getting shaken and hammered. Now think about it, Do you want to do the same to your bikes engine?
              Ride to the road and traffic conditions, Make sure you are able to get out/away from trouble in an instant.

              Being in 5th gear @30kph and something happened resulting in you needing to speed up to a safe/clear area, You will need to drop back to at least to 3rd or 2nd gear. That 1 - 2seconds needed to drop down gears and speed up and away will end up costing you dearly and possibly paying the ultimate price..... of your life.
              All that for a few drops of precious petrol?
              30kph I'm in 2nd gear or 3rd gear with instant throttle response, Never in top gear. I'm sure experienced riders will say something similar.
              2013 Ducati M795 with a few mods in here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...95-owners.html
              Want to talk about modding your FZ? http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tech-talk.html
              My videos http://www.youtube.com/user/FZSMik/videos

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              • Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                I'm doing some aggressive gear changes @ 4-5 rpm ranges and also giving sudden bursts upto 6k RPM as you told and it works like a charm. Gear changes are getting smoother and smoother and bike engine feels smoother.
                Try taking it out to 8k RPM. You bike's rings are already worn in, You won't be getting any more running in of your engine sad to say or happy to say.
                Rings are run in within the first few minutes/kms.

                Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                Guys I wanted to ask a question about engine warning lamp when ignition switched is on. What's this lamp for? Will this lamp start blinking when the oil level is low or when engine gets extreme hot due to some other issues? Just wanted to know how this engine lamp warning light can warn us.

                Regards
                That is for the TPS. Unplug it and your red engine light will turn on and stay on. There are no other sensors on the engine. Its a very basic "agricultural/tractor" engine.
                2013 Ducati M795 with a few mods in here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...95-owners.html
                Want to talk about modding your FZ? http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tech-talk.html
                My videos http://www.youtube.com/user/FZSMik/videos

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                • Originally posted by Mad Mik View Post
                  Seriously man, you don't need to be in 5th gear at 30kph. Undergearing a engine is putting much much more stress on it and carbonizing up the internals to say the least. Have you heard a car engine undergeared? ie 3rd gear @20kph? Have you heard the rattles? That's the bearings getting shaken and hammered. Now think about it, Do you want to do the same to your bikes engine?
                  Ride to the road and traffic conditions, Make sure you are able to get out/away from trouble in an instant.

                  Being in 5th gear @30kph and something happened resulting in you needing to speed up to a safe/clear area, You will need to drop back to at least to 3rd or 2nd gear. That 1 - 2seconds needed to drop down gears and speed up and away will end up costing you dearly and possibly paying the ultimate price..... of your life.
                  All that for a few drops of precious petrol?
                  30kph I'm in 2nd gear or 3rd gear with instant throttle response, Never in top gear. I'm sure experienced riders will say something similar.
                  what shv meant was not to consistently ride @30 in fifth gear.
                  Of course it is not advisable to remain in 5th all the time..
                  But if you are cruising at 80 and you spot a temporary barrier on the road and want to cruise along the way without changing gears or even putting brakes you can easily do that on this bike.. The downside is that you will lose a lot of time accelerating back to 80 in fifth gear.
                  I take full advantage of this feature on the bike to just relax and ride, no hassles of changing gears. Not good for street racers who will not go above 4th on city streets.

                  Also, riding at 30 in fifth is losing mileage and not gaining it. YAMAHA prescribes riding at 40-50 to get the max mileage from the bike. Saw some posters hanging at the svc an year back. I understand that shv is also aware of it.

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                  • Originally posted by muztariq View Post
                    what shv meant was not to consistently ride @30 in fifth gear...
                    Thanks for filling in.. Yes Mik I meant that... If one constantly rides on 5th gear at low speeds.. That is putting more stress on the engine hence, not advised..


                    Cheers
                    A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                    • Originally posted by Mad Mik View Post
                      Try taking it out to 8k RPM. You bike's rings are already worn in, You won't be getting any more running in of your engine sad to say or happy to say.
                      Rings are run in within the first few minutes/kms.
                      Thanks for your advice. I'd rather trust on the creator (YAMAHA) than the creation (MIK). Anyways my bike is under warranty and whatsoever, engine re-building is 10 times cheaper than Vietnam.

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                      • Top up

                        Originally posted by shv18 View Post

                        Engine is still very smooth thanks to MOTUL FS 15W 50 DOUBLE ESTER. Kms covered so far with it: 4,270 kms. Engine oil is still golden brown slightly darker but that's about it. I shall replace it when i hit 5000 kms. Only one top up, 30ml done at 3900 kms.

                        Cheers,

                        hie shv going throw old post of fz16 forum saw your post and thinking

                        which 30 ml oil you have added did you top up with MOTUL FS 15W 50 DOUBLE ESTER again or other local oil top ups or some other brand oil is added

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                        • Originally posted by vinay1552 View Post
                          hie shv going throw old post of fz16 forum saw your post and thinking

                          which 30 ml oil you have added did you top up with MOTUL FS 15W 50 DOUBLE ESTER again or other local oil top ups or some other brand oil is added
                          You cannot mix different oil with different grades. To answer your question when I did a top up, I used the same FS oil from the same brand with same grade.

                          Cheers,
                          A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                          • Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                            I think your carburettor hasn't been touched yet (stock settings). As SVC guys don't touch the carburettor till 5000km. I think during the next service tell them to tune your bike and surely you will get good mileage. Why do you use clutch a lot? It's better try to ride avoiding clutch on low gears and use clutch only for gear changing. I sometimes even try to manage to troll without holding clutch in first and second gears. Practice and use clutch only when you are changing gears (it's traditional suggestion)
                            I know I have gotten into habit of using it a lot, makes me control it better.

                            I use it even when just slowing down the bike, I have to pratice to botuse it much.

                            I will surely keep the AFR setting in mind during my next service..

                            Also one more thing, does the type of fuel matter? I mean i have been using "speed" mostly for the bike but sometimes I have also used regular. so does the type of petrol matter. I have been advised by many to use "speed"

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                            • Joel orders

                              what courier service does Joel use to ship his orders?
                              how long does it take to receive once shipped?
                              Our bikes can go from 0 - Stupid in less than "I wonder if this will be a good idea"

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                              • Originally posted by ariendj View Post
                                what courier service does Joel use to ship his orders?
                                how long does it take to receive once shipped?
                                Even I'm worried about that.When did u order and when did u transfer the amount? Where are you from?

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