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  • #13231
    Originally posted by deville_56 View Post
    I don't think it's the same formula. Quality is very much different. Motul made ones easily lasted 2k, this one very rough at the same km range. All they want is same grade, same JASO rating. Honda also got 3 vendors, 2 of them are absolute crap, 3rd one (Tide Water) is too good.
    as per the jaso list of approved oils savita chemicals etc are not on the list. Yamalube various grades and motul various grades are there.. If they are mentioning yamalube brand name and jaso certified logo it is a good oil approved by jaso, no matter who and where it gets made. Yamaha must have been getting these oils made by motul till now but due to cost cutting must have employed some indian vendors and there is no harm in it.. Global pharma giants like pfizer and gsk gets indian market medicines made from small contract research organisations which they approve - the quality remains the same!! If the label is yamalube sl its the same oil.. But if the label is yamalube xyz something its some other approved oil.
    You may also see the list of jaso certified oils at www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/4T_EV_LIST.pdf

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    • #13232
      Originally posted by muztariq View Post
      as per the jaso list of approved oils savita chemicals etc are not on the list. Yamalube various grades and motul various grades are there.. If they are mentioning yamalube brand name and jaso certified logo it is a good oil approved by jaso, no matter who and where it gets made. Yamaha must have been getting these oils made by motul till now but due to cost cutting must have employed some indian vendors and there is no harm in it.. Global pharma giants like pfizer and gsk gets indian market medicines made from small contract research organisations which they approve - the quality remains the same!! If the label is yamalube sl its the same oil.. But if the label is yamalube xyz something its some other approved oil.
      You may also see the list of jaso certified oils at www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/4T_EV_LIST.pdf
      Try the JASO approved same grade oil from 3 seperate Honda vendors and feel the difference Same happening with Yammy too. Label is Yamalube only. Full stock with dealer here is blue bottle, authorized stockist in Kollam had Motul make. I never use Yamalubes

      Maybe they are using the Yamalube brand name to make them.
      Last edited by deville_56; 02-06-2012, 12:59 AM.
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      • #13233
        Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post
        I am assuming that the pic that you have shown is of a hotter cam that you are going to use with your big bore kit. If yes, then ask your mechanic to remove the decompression mechanism. The only drawback will be that it will be slightly harder to start the bike. Otherwise there should be no problem at all (I have been running my engine without the decompression mechanism for more than a year now without any problems)
        Thanks Abhimanyu !! will ask him about this.
        -AK

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        • #13234
          Need help from Sr.member !!

          My FZ 1st service has done.
          Current odd reading is 1000 Km.

          Need help from Sr member ...

          1) Can i opt for a FFE for my bike now?
          Where i can find FFE in pune? i do not want any loud sound.
          Should be look as stock and performance should be good.

          2) Free flow Air filter.
          Which compny filter ?
          Model number, price and where to get in Pune?

          3) Want a Projector headlamp with Angle Eye.
          Where in Pune? Price ?
          Any impact on bike battery or electrical system ?

          kindly help ?

          regards
          KALINGA

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          • #13235
            Originally posted by Mizt View Post
            Is it some kind of sticker?? or real carbon fibre work??
            Its vinyl but textured one
            Yamaha YZF-R15

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            • #13236
              Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post
              till now many people have tried the K&N air filter and upjetting as their first performance upgrade.... they do get the sound.... but till now no one has been able to pinpoint the jet size and the state of tune for the upgrade...
              Well i ve been using the K&N filter for quite sometime now. While installin i got new jets (117.5main, recommended by joel himself) but they performed badly.. the mixture became too rich. then i reverted back to stock jets and now its fine. performance is more sprightly plus it always gets me tingling when i open the throttle hard... it sounds soo bassy inside the helmet. just remember to use a 6'' rubber extension hose before fitting the filter. dont fit it straight on the carb. the stock airbox can be ignored thereafter wards.. the extension makes a whole world of difference.. but it kills the sound a bit. this is just a precursor to bigger mods.. a first step actually.. good luck
              Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly

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              • #13237
                Bike feels sluggish at low end... False Neutral while shifting up.
                Changed the chain and spocket set 5 days back have done 500Km after that. Noticed that the chain slackness is uneven.. Have made two trips to the svc, no help.
                I am running MOtul fs 15w50 for the first time... Possible clutch plate issues?
                I am planning a SS ride soon. Any help would be appreciated..
                Btw I always ride upwards of 80Kmph... Also I am missing my top end at 107.. I could hit 120 earlier.. Hell lot of vibes...
                Yamaha Fazer 2011 13600km in 8 months and counting

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                • #13238
                  Originally posted by greenknight View Post
                  Bike feels sluggish at low end... False Neutral while shifting up.
                  Changed the chain and spocket set 5 days back have done 500Km after that. Noticed that the chain slackness is uneven.. Have made two trips to the svc, no help.
                  I am running MOtul fs 15w50 for the first time... Possible clutch plate issues?
                  I am planning a SS ride soon. Any help would be appreciated..
                  Btw I always ride upwards of 80Kmph... Also I am missing my top end at 107.. I could hit 120 earlier.. Hell lot of vibes...

                  How many kms on the odo? Please check the level of engine oil if the level if low then immediately top it up with the same FS 15W 50 grade of motul. and do get the valve clearance checked. have you replaced your air filter on interval as recommended by the manual? Your rear tire seems to be not aligned correctly a simple adjustment should take care of that.


                  Cheers
                  A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                  • #13239
                    Originally posted by greenknight View Post
                    Bike feels sluggish at low end... False Neutral while shifting up.
                    Changed the chain and spocket set 5 days back have done 500Km after that. Noticed that the chain slackness is uneven.. Have made two trips to the svc, no help.
                    I am running MOtul fs 15w50 for the first time... Possible clutch plate issues?
                    I am planning a SS ride soon. Any help would be appreciated..
                    Btw I always ride upwards of 80Kmph... Also I am missing my top end at 107.. I could hit 120 earlier.. Hell lot of vibes...
                    low acceleration, missing neutral and reduction in max speed is all because of over lubricated clutch plates.. Dying clutch plates when exposed to high friction reduction or a good plate exposed to over friction reduction as in case of car oils is the culprit.. You got that right.. Either replace oil with mineral or get a fresh plate assembly.
                    Regarding vibrations - I suspect chain set or the tyres are the culprit.

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                    • #13240
                      guys i'm thinking about removing the cat con from the stock exhaust. just the cat con, not the end canister. and i have some doubts;

                      1. is it doable, will it damage the engine?
                      2. is the stock pipe single or double(one more pipe inside)?
                      3. is the stock pipe(s) made of steel? (inner/outer)

                      Any idea how to weld the pipes? also what kind of welding should i do?
                      I know there are good FFEs out there, but being a student i don't have that kind of money to spend, plus not a fan of loud noise.
                      please gimme some inputs,
                      thanks guys
                      Yamaha YZF-R15

                      Riding a motorcycle is like living in a video game where people are trying to kill you.

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                      • #13241
                        Originally posted by christo View Post
                        guys i'm thinking about removing the cat con from the stock exhaust. just the cat con, not the end canister. and i have some doubts;

                        1. is it doable, will it damage the engine?
                        2. is the stock pipe single or double(one more pipe inside)?
                        3. is the stock pipe(s) made of steel? (inner/outer)

                        Any idea how to weld the pipes? also what kind of welding should i do?
                        I know there are good FFEs out there, but being a student i don't have that kind of money to spend, plus not a fan of loud noise.
                        please gimme some inputs,
                        thanks guys
                        You may do so at your own risk. A miscalculated designed exhaust may end up doing more harm to your engine then doing any good. You may end up losing power instead of gaining one. Plus a replacement stock exhaust (incase you ever need one) will cost you around 8k+. So rather leave this to the experts then ruining a perfectly stock bike and gather up the cash for the same. You can also pm iceman331 and figure out the exhaust designed by his friend.


                        Cheers
                        Last edited by shv18; 02-08-2012, 06:17 AM.
                        A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                        • #13242
                          Originally posted by christo View Post
                          guys i'm thinking about removing the cat con from the stock exhaust. just the cat con, not the end canister. and i have some doubts;

                          1. is it doable, will it damage the engine?
                          2. is the stock pipe single or double(one more pipe inside)?
                          3. is the stock pipe(s) made of steel? (inner/outer)

                          Any idea how to weld the pipes? also what kind of welding should i do?
                          I know there are good FFEs out there, but being a student i don't have that kind of money to spend, plus not a fan of loud noise.
                          please gimme some inputs,
                          thanks guys
                          to answer your questions...

                          1. yes, the chances of damage to engine are 50:50.

                          the pipes can be welded back using TIG welding...

                          people do it on superbikes to save the cash and to get the grunt and the sound.

                          rossiter has also done it on his R1.... u can get a more idea if you talk to him....

                          you should take this chance only if you have the cash for going for an aftermarket exhaust or a stock exhaust if things dont go as planned...
                          Timon: Orange Yamaha FZ16 2009
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                          • #13243
                            @kinshuk.arya: thanks, like you said chances of ruining my pipe is 50:50, then i'm thinking of not doing it. and some friend of mine said that the box isn't just cat con..so bettert to leave it alone
                            @shv18: thanks mate, i'll be PMing him soon
                            Yamaha YZF-R15

                            Riding a motorcycle is like living in a video game where people are trying to kill you.

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                            • #13244
                              Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                              How many kms on the odo? Please check the level of engine oil if the level if low then immediately top it up with the same FS 15W 50 grade of motul. and do get the valve clearance checked. have you replaced your air filter on interval as recommended by the manual? Your rear tire seems to be not aligned correctly a simple adjustment should take care of that.


                              Cheers
                              Odo reads 12300 in 7 months. 520 since last service and oild change (which was done 5 days ago)...
                              I checked another 18 months old Fazer, 9300km on the odo it was butter smooth... The SVC guys adviced me to get back to SS or Mineral... Lets see how I feel. Valve clearance settings were fixed 15 days ago, must be 1500 km..
                              Yamaha Fazer 2011 13600km in 8 months and counting

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                              • #13245
                                What is the Proper Riding speed for Respective gears for Yamaha FZ16 ... Can anyone please put some light ( thanks in Advance )

                                Bolt ( my Fz16 ) Crossed 300 kms and still going Strong .... love My Ride

                                And about the Digital console .... its blinking does that mean its going to be out of fuel anytime soon ....

                                The thing is i Filled it with 6 litres when i took the delivery ! it showed 3 points then .

                                after 200kms it started blinking and yet its blinking but i havent observed any knocking , for a safe side i have put my cork to RES.

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