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  • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
    You did that translation, Asim...!??!!?!?
    Geee, that is quite some work!!!
    Thanks for this great help to all FZ owners
    Hey guys... if finding an fz16 manual "ENGLISH" was difficult..

    I have uploaded a soft copy I had here:

    FZ 16 manual

    Hope you can print/download etc.. otherwise printing in pdf convector makes instant pdf!

    ENJOY!

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    • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
      You did that translation, Asim...!??!!?!?
      Geee, that is quite some work!!!
      Thanks for this great help to all FZ owners
      Nope, I am afraid that would have taken a lifetime

      Found a website that translates documents for free. uploaded and got it translated in to English.

      Glad that this would be of help.

      Thanks !
      -AK

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      • Right indicator hanging !

        Today as I had a look at my bike ,I was totally shocked to find the right indicator(rear end) hanging,I somehow tried to fit it back and I was able to but sadly it couldn't hold for long

        I am sure this must have happened to many of us here,someone please tell how much will it cost to have this back in place and will I need entirely new indicator lamp ?
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        • Originally posted by yamahafazer View Post
          Today as I had a look at my bike ,I was totally shocked to find the right indicator(rear end) hanging,I somehow tried to fit it back and I was able to but sadly it couldn't hold for long

          I am sure this must have happened to many of us here,someone please tell how much will it cost to have this back in place and will I need entirely new indicator lamp ?
          time for a new indicator.
          and the question remains why do i race?
          every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

          #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
          #overkill is underrated.
          #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
          #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

          (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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          • Breaking techniques

            Slight OT...

            though i thought would be useful for all the FZ/Fazer owners as yamaha uses an FZ-S for demonstration!!

            Breaking Techniques - YouTube

            Both Braking and engine braking are defined here..
            Cheers
            Last edited by shv18; 04-02-2012, 02:10 AM.
            A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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            • Originally posted by asim.mohd View Post
              Nope, I am afraid that would have taken a lifetime

              Found a website that translates documents for free. uploaded and got it translated in to English.

              Glad that this would be of help.

              Thanks !
              Thanks and good job. All translators gave terrible outputs for me
              #RetiredRider
              #KeyboardWarrior

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              • Originally posted by muztariq View Post
                Hey guys... if finding an fz16 manual "ENGLISH" was difficult..
                Nice intend, Muztariq, but you would be interested in having a look at what the "other" manual is: it's the workshop manual, not the owner's manual that (normally) everybody has.....although I can see that many don't even read it!!!
                When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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                • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                  though i thought would be useful for all the FZ/Fazer owners as yamaha uses an FZ-S for demonstration!!
                  .....
                  Funny to see that, when they had to show a close-up on the rear brake, they used a bike (R15?) with rear disc brake!!!

                  Are they SOOOO ashamed of the miserable drum brake of our FZs?

                  (I don't care: I've got a disc fitted on mine, like almost everybody here, and the difference is awsome!)

                  Note to mods: I know I should have used some "multi-quote" system (wondering what bothers in having it in two separate posts, though...???)....but I still have to find out how it works. Please, O Gods of the xbhp forums, forgive my miserable ignorance....
                  Last edited by Lucky Luke; 04-02-2012, 11:13 AM.
                  When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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                  • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
                    (I don't care: I've got a disc fitted on mine, like almost everybody here, and the difference is awsome!)
                    How did you manage to install rear disc? any problems you're facing? Where is the brake fluid holder located?
                    I have Fazer and I would like to install it. Can SVC people do it? I have high doubts about that.

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                    • Anyone here has any idea, kindly share.
                      Thanks
                      KB

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                      • need help

                        HI Guys,

                        Stuck with a problem since long. Would appreciate if you could have a glance here and let me know your comments/ideas:



                        Thanks !
                        -AK

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                        • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                          Slight OT...

                          though i thought would be useful for all the FZ/Fazer owners as yamaha uses an FZ-S for demonstration!!

                          Both Braking and engine braking are defined here..
                          Cheers
                          Hey pal, nice video. Has loads of useful info for armature riders. Though i wish they had also shown how to shift down gears (engine braking) while braking and make overall braking even more efficient.
                          Also would like to highlight here that in the Video as its shown n i have experienced.....the brilliant MRF tire skids in a straight line when it locks up. Before this i had a Honda unicorn and during emergency braking situation i was able to stop the bike whith a rear lock up but the rear stepped out at the last moment n i fell off.

                          Originally posted by kauria View Post
                          Hi Guys, I am in a trouble, my 8 month’s old HID system was working perfectly, until this Sunday, when I have to remove it for adjusting the tappets and after that the problem started. Low beam is working properly but when I put it into High beam the main power fuse of the bike started blowing, but the fuse for the HID is ok, I didn’t understand what’s the issue, this HID was a Chinese one and worked perfectly till date. Today I have checked the HID wiring thoroughly but didn’t find any punch or cut in it, in this testing process I almost lose five fuses.
                          Anyone here has any idea, kindly share.
                          Thanks
                          KB

                          Try checking the Relay too, if possible try replacing it with new 1 and see if the problem persists. This is a very acute problem.

                          Last edited by iceman331; 04-05-2012, 02:13 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by iceman331 View Post
                            Hey pal, nice video. Has loads of useful info for armature riders. Though i wish they had also shown how to shift down gears (engine braking) while braking and make overall braking even more efficient.
                            Also would like to highlight here that in the Video as its shown n i have experienced.....the brilliant MRF tire skids in a straight line when it locks up. Before this i had a Honda unicorn and during emergency braking situation i was able to stop the bike whith a rear lock up but the rear stepped out at the last moment n i fell off
                            shifting down gears and engine braking - On seeing a probable hault like a red light, not pressing the brakes and using the gear friction as a substitute is called engine braking( in my dictionary :-)). But using down shifts to brake will put extra load on the engine, i dont think anyone should do that(except if you are in a race), may be if his brakepads are dead and he is going for a replacement he should.. Otherwise one should always use the braking system (and no down shifting) and use engine braking by not pressing the clutch early when the probable hault is visible. Brakepads are cheap than vital engine components. You will also be consuming more fuel by pressing the clutch and downshifting and will be able to buy a brakepad easily in that cost in 10,000 -15000 kms. Also engine braking by downshifting has no brake lights! I think this needs some discussion here!

                            Regarding straight line skid- Though the tyres have a good grip, but in emergemcy situation the scenario is different.
                            When you are at a high speed of lets say 85 km/hr and brake suddenly in extreme emergency situation by pulling both the brakes.. As the front brake is more powerful there will be a push from the rear and the rear will wobble in a zigzag manner (very rapidly) and one will lose control slightly- the art is how to regain that control (a quick decision to find way out or ramming the object with minimal damage has to be made)
                            the test shown here uses a test condition - clean road, expected braking.
                            In non standard test condition - when you are accelerating and emergency braking (usual case) the wobble is inevitable at speeds above 80 k/h.. I have experienced it many times. Sharing it, so that one dont expect that the tyre will travel in a straight line.
                            My small philosophy is not to let the rear tyre lockup in any situation. Waiting for experiences from the more experienced fz riders to validate.
                            Last edited by muztariq; 04-05-2012, 06:16 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by SpeedyKol View Post
                              How did you manage to install rear disc? any problems you're facing? Where is the brake fluid holder located?
                              I have Fazer and I would like to install it. Can SVC people do it? I have high doubts about that.
                              I have posted a fully detailed explanation with pics on the "Universal Thread" section....where it has sunk down somewhere to page four...!

                              If you go and have a look, may be you could post a little comment to bump it up as your question makes it obvious that this - I think! - useful thread has sunk so deep that it is not visible anymore!

                              So long, it's been superbly working, on wet or dry. This should have been, IMHO, at least an optional feature on this bike so much it improves its behavior.
                              When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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                              • Originally posted by muztariq View Post
                                shifting down gears and engine braking - On seeing a probable hault like a red light, not pressing the brakes and using the gear friction as a substitute is called engine braking( in my dictionary :-)). But using down shifts to brake will put extra load on the engine, i dont think anyone should do that(except if you are in a race), may be if his brakepads are dead and he is going for a replacement he should.. Otherwise one should always use the braking system (and no down shifting) and use engine braking by not pressing the clutch early when the probable hault is visible. Brakepads are cheap than vital engine components. You will also be consuming more fuel by pressing the clutch and downshifting and will be able to buy a brakepad easily in that cost in 10,000 -15000 kms. Also engine braking by downshifting has no brake lights! I think this needs some discussion here!

                                Regarding straight line skid- Though the tyres have a good grip, but in emergemcy situation the scenario is different.
                                When you are at a high speed of lets say 85 km/hr and brake suddenly in extreme emergency situation by pulling both the brakes.. As the front brake is more powerful there will be a push from the rear and the rear will wobble in a zigzag manner (very rapidly) and one will lose control slightly- the art is how to regain that control (a quick decision to find way out or ramming the object with minimal damage has to be made)
                                the test shown here uses a test condition - clean road, expected braking.
                                In non standard test condition - when you are accelerating and emergency braking (usual case) the wobble is inevitable at speeds above 80 k/h.. I have experienced it many times. Sharing it, so that one dont expect that the tyre will travel in a straight line.
                                My small philosophy is not to let the rear tyre lockup in any situation. Waiting for experiences from the more experienced fz riders to validate.
                                Its time u Upgraded to a better Dictionary pal. I see many misconceptions here.
                                Lets start from the top

                                You misunderstood me completely, When i said Shift Down while braking what i meant was Doing Wheel Braking and down shifting gears simultaneously.

                                This ensures the minimum braking distance without putting preasure on any bike components cos it gets distributed by all components ie engine clutch brakes suspension tire.....and according to simple physics* when a big load is shared by many individual components the load pressure on those individual components is minimum. So the theory of shifting down gears is bad for clutch and engine is mundane.

                                Then u talk bout the EXTRA LOAD on the engine during the process, i dont understand where this extra load comes in from?????
                                FZ's engine is designed n tested to rev upto 9500rpm, the piston, the clutch and the drive chain too have been designed keeping these parameters in mind. So the load that can be exerted on these components is when one is accelerating hard enough. Otherwise its all working within tested limits of this bike. The extra bit would come in only if one manages to get it beyond 10k rpm n doing the above mentioned stuff, which i see highly unlikely. So again this EXTRA concept is farfetched.
                                yes you might say the sudden pressure put on the clutch engine drive chain etc while shifting down from high speed or high rpm would be that EXTRA LOAD, but then plz go back to my physics explanation (*) and understand it.

                                Next you say n i Quote "You will also be consuming more fuel by pressing the clutch and downshiftin"
                                Again, where has this concept come from????
                                When one stops accelerating the engine is running on Idling fuel. no matter what speed (Carbonated engine only), just to keep it running which i must point out is the minimum amount of fuel being supplied to keep the combustion cycle going on. So when one uses downshifting it is done at the cost of idling fuel. Yes the frequency of the fuel being sent into engine is partially more, but not so much that it will cause a drastic drop in Fuel Economy. But according to ur theory, i must be putting a huge dent in ma fuel economy when i rev-match while shifting down gears but not the case at all. She returns me a good health figure of 40 kmpl

                                And always remember, the bike is best balanced when in proper Gear @ proper speed. Downshifting with Wheel braking ensures this.

                                Yes i agree with the wobble one gets when emergency braking down from speeds above 80 and i can tell u very confidently that its the max on Concrete roads. The tire on this bike provides good grip hence the wobble is less n very controllable. As i had stated before when i had to do an emergency stop on ma earlier bike (Unicorn) it was a hard task keeping the back in check and ultimately i lost it. Bless FZ cos thrice have such instances come and i have come to stand still on both the wheels partly thanks to Downshifting too.

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