Guys please read the manual carefully... if i still remember correctly.. it has been mentioned to avoid riding the bike on neutral for long distances.. reason being the clutch in our engine is wet type... hence if you ride the bike for long distances on neutral.. the clutch plates would be devoid of any lubrication... i suggest check it out once...


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Will work as long as you have a hand!
I think I have NEVER seen such a crazily dangerous advice, ever!

Just tell me that this is only for the FZ and not the Fazer ! Just got my Fazer and would be disappointed big time if they get a new look now :/

If I don't make any carb adjustments and just install the filter, is it still worth it? What performance change can we expect in this case?

Needs a trial and error method. After installing check the spark plug for the mix being lean. If the air flow is not considerably large, you probably can get away by adjusting the a/f screw on the existing carb (jets).

Otherwise, go for a larger size jet.

Just my 2 cents. I might be wrong.

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hmmm....doesnt seem to be a stock replacement

you completely misunderstood my post..
There are two ways to run in neutral. 1. With engine on and ready to make a move with a change of gear. 2. With engine off.
I meant running without engine 'on' (in place of this i could have written 'with engine off') will cool down the engine as there will be a lot of heat buildup if you try running with engine 'on' as that will also consume much less fuel.. Bikers who think they are saving petrol with engine 'on' in neutral are doing much more harm to the engine than they are saving petrol.. Fluid cooled cars are a different story.
But, riding both with engine on or off is dangerous.. In hills ppl try coming downhill (most of them are doing it for years and decades) with engine 'on' but in neutral as they think starting engine will take sometime and just getting in a gear when engine is 'on' wont..

From the pic, it seems to be a direct fit.

I am sorry, Muztariq, if you take this as personal again, but there are a few things not really exact in your post.

But before that and above all, I want to do a general comment about this obscene fuel saving obsession that seems to affect so many people here and the dangers they accept for a few rupees!

In Europe, driving downhill in neutral, which used to be a common practice amongst many truck drivers, not for economy but to attain higher speeds, will take your license away and you in jail. That just shows how dangerous such silly practice is, in whichever country you are.

I have said it and say it again (and please refrain from speaking about "decorum" and other politically correct: we can speak or we can't): to buy one of the most expensive bike it its segment, essentially for it's look, and then be cheap up to the point of being a hazard to other road users is utterly ridiculous, and ultimately criminal.

Now about your post, Muztariq:

What??? Do you think that the engine idling while going at high speed will not get cooled enough? This is advocating, although you wisely recommend not to go with engine "on" or "off" off later in your post, to run downhill in neutral with engine "off", for a non existing cooling reason, which is even more dangerous than with engine "on". Effectively, if your engine is not capable to rev up to match gearbox primary and secondary trains speed, it may simply not get into gear at all....and you will only and entirely have to rely on whatever is left of your braking capability. Anyway: just tell me what will happen if you have to get in second gear (the "highest" gear you can reach from neutral) and the bike is doing some 80kmh, with failing brakes???

MUCH less fuel??? That is gross! Not only technically inexact too, since the moment the engine is idling it consumes extremely small amount of fuel, not "much" as you say, but this is also pushing the cheap and the greed to an extreme I have rarely seen even in some of the poorest countries. The only circumstance when it is wise to shut off the engine is in "solid" traffic jam, not for fuel economy but to avoid the engine over-heating while the bike is not moving, hence not cooling...and uselessly polluting.

So, there again, you are advocating going downhill in neutral with engine "off", right? Whether that is your intent or not, that IS what you are doing.
And there again technically inexact: what harm does it do to an engine to be idling, eventually "over-cooled" by the speed??? None! But where it harms the engine is when you are going downhill in neutral and engine "off". Yes Sir! Not only this engine itself but the whole drive train is pressure lubricated by an engine driven pump. If the engine is not running, would it be idling, there is only a very small - and insufficient! - lubrication. Nothing to do with "liquid" cooled car engines excepted that most cars effectively have separated engine and gearbox lubrication.....just another wrong and meaningless affirmation. So what you recommend is actually where more damage will occur. You present yourself as an experienced biker. I will not deny this but would suggest that you get more knowledge on mechanics before giving such wrong advice.

At least, on this we agree!

hey hey hey.. You are selectively quoting me or rather misquoting me.
Please read my post 13702 - i say never try running neutral with your engine off to save petrol etc.. It is very dangerous even on clear roads.
Then the person asks again in post 13704 that apart from danger, will there be any ill effect on the engine?
I replied in post 13705 that running without engine 'on' would cool down the engine and there will be lesser engine wear than engine 'on'.. But one should stay home rather than trying to save petrol by these means. Down hills in india especially in himalayas is very slow speed with lot many stoppages, steep curves and traffic. Hence an engine running on in neutral is not at all good for the engine and if someone is trying to do that to save petrol he shouldnt do that either. In the end to clarify i wrote - Both running in neutral with engine on or off is dangerous and should never be tried!!
I dont switch off the engine till my bike is parked or i am at a red light or i am in a traffic jam or i have met with an accident!! And i hope all others follow the same.
You owe an apology to me :-) , just kidding, relax!

Running a bike (or any vehicle for that matter) in neutral irrespective of the engine being on or off is extremely dangerous not only for the self but also for fellow commuters. Please refrain from any such ideas.

If one cares so much about saving fuel then better ride a bicycle.

Since the topic has already been started, i would like to ask one query. Is running the bike in gear (relative to bike's speed) but clutch lever pressed advisable or fuel saving? Or this too is just another harmful idea?

as mentioned earlier... if you run the bike for longer duration with neutral or the clutch lever pressed.. the transmission will not receive lubrication.. please check the manual once.. i am pretty sure it has been mentioned in it. Besides that both the above riders have made it pretty clear what are the after effects of the same.

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Guys from Bangalore, if you are interested.

I want to remove the front HSRP number plate holder and put on stickered number plate on the front bumper as I think it spoils the look of the visor. Would I be attracting fine due to this from the traffic cops? The rear HSRP will stay as it is. What is the rule for installing HSRPs?

have seen many fazer users do that.. It all depends on your regional traffic police.. In Delhi they used to catch me for not using 'approved font' though the numbers were very big and clear.
Goto your traffic police's website and search the requirements for number plates.. Many scooters dont have front plates. So its more about font size and spacing..
Confirm from regional TP website!