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    After the 3rd service of my Yamaha FZS , now my bike engine is really getting hot even if I ride 5 km in 15-20 mins with normal speed 40-55kmph. I can feel the heat vapor in my jeans while I ride the bike.

    My 4th service is coming next week. It might be the issue of Engine oil "YAMAHA LUBE" I am thinking for opting another best Engine OIL.

    Can Service center change the Engine Oil from Yamaha lube to any another Or I have to do it myself. They charge me Rs.345 for free service ( YAMAHA 4T 20W-40 SL, 1L(Rs.305) + ELEMENT ASSY,OIL CLEANER (Rs.40) ) Plzz help me out choosing best Engine Oil as I don't know much ..!!!

    Also my Bike mileage is been change before it was giving 38-39Km now it is giving 32-33 max.

    My bike 3rd service was done from another service center as OKHLA in NEW DELHI, Before my 1st and 2nd service was done in same center (YUSUF SARAI, NEW DELHI)

    No other Problems in My Bike as ODO meter is 3200km .

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    Originally posted by cvijaysanthoshreddy View Post
    Hi All.. Can anyone please help me with this.. After 3rd free service my bike's mileage came down by 5-6 kmpl.. previously i used to get 38-39 kmpl but after the service i only get 33.. Its been three weeks since i gave the bike for service.. after the service had filled my tank completely and found change in mileage and now had to see the exact figure and that is the result.. Please let me know what could be the reason ? and also i feel like the engine is not free as it was and also it vibrates little more and all these after service only.. Please help me.. thanks in advance.. Waiting for your valuable replies..
    Bhai Same story with me... Earlier my bike was giving 38-39Km after 3rd service Mileage came down 32-33Km per litre .. The Only change I felt was My Bike is not Vibrating after 70km speed.. earlier it was vibrating alot..!!!
    Last edited by bikashnayak; 10-16-2013, 12:45 AM.

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    • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

      Originally posted by shv18 View Post
      I believe the suggestion itself from your mechanic tells you about his level of low standard knowledge on 4 strokes. In 2 stroke motors you mix 2T oil along with fuel for lubricating the engine internals when in operation. YOU DONOT MIX ENGINE OIL WITH FUEL in 4 stroke motors unless you want to ruin your bike's engine!!

      Also most mechanic are adverse to open and clean up a carburettor because they have no clue how to put it back together and tune the carburettor properly. It is an absolute nonsense they try and feed you. Don't believe any such crap ever!!

      Mosfires may persist if:

      * Spark Plug is foul
      * The ignition timing is not precise
      * cam chain has not been adjusted properly
      * Fuel quality is sub standard from wherever you are filling fuel from.
      * Air Induction syste, is dirty

      Try changing your fuel filling bunk and see if the misfiring goes off.


      Cheers,
      It did sound fishy, the mobil oil thing. I am going to try filling up from more "posh" areas.

      What about the cone set though? Why will wobble still persist after changing it?

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        Originally posted by grvrai View Post
        It did sound fishy, the mobil oil thing. I am going to try filling up from more "posh" areas.

        What about the cone set though? Why will wobble still persist after changing it?
        don't look for posh pumps.. but fill up from those who have high sales.. as these have to refil frequently and hence the chances of mixing is less..
        check for wheel alignment for wobble..

        Ride safe and have fun.
        Regards
        Nadeem

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        • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

          Originally posted by bikashnayak View Post
          After the 3rd service of my Yamaha FZS , now my bike engine is really getting hot even if I ride 5 km in 15-20 mins with normal speed 40-55kmph. I can feel the heat vapor in my jeans while I ride the bike.

          My 4th service is coming next week. It might be the issue of Engine oil "YAMAHA LUBE" I am thinking for opting another best Engine OIL.

          Can Service center change the Engine Oil from Yamaha lube to any another Or I have to do it myself. They charge me Rs.345 for free service ( YAMAHA 4T 20W-40 SL, 1L(Rs.305) + ELEMENT ASSY,OIL CLEANER (Rs.40) ) Plzz help me out choosing best Engine Oil as I don't know much ..!!!

          Also my Bike mileage is been change before it was giving 38-39Km now it is giving 32-33 max.

          My bike 3rd service was done from another service center as OKHLA in NEW DELHI, Before my 1st and 2nd service was done in same center (YUSUF SARAI, NEW DELHI)

          No other Problems in My Bike as ODO meter is 3200km .
          Yamalube does make you feel the heat, but in other way. It is normal for that oil (my experience). You are still under warranty, but you can change the oil as you like. They will push for changing the oil at SVC. The best is to change the oil by yourself.

          Also, free service is charged Rs. 345?? From when did this happen?? Bro, first 6 service's are absolutely free and you are not suppose to pay a single penny for servicing, except paying for consumable items.

          Cheerz!!
          The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

          Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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          • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

            Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
            Yamalube does make you feel the heat, but in other way. It is normal for that oil (my experience). You are still under warranty, but you can change the oil as you like. They will push for changing the oil at SVC. The best is to change the oil by yourself.

            Also, free service is charged Rs. 345?? From when did this happen?? Bro, first 6 service's are absolutely free and you are not suppose to pay a single penny for servicing, except paying for consumable items.

            Cheerz!!
            Bro.. I live in New Delhi and they only charge Engine Oil and Oil Filter in every service center. I am surprised to see that You said it's free. I thinks Engine Oil is consumable Items, that's y they charge . They also Give me a Bill mentioning the Items Engine oil and Oil Filter totals Cost Rs.345.

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            • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

              Originally posted by bikashnayak View Post
              Bro.. I live in New Delhi and they only charge Engine Oil and Oil Filter in every service center. I am surprised to see that You said it's free. I thinks Engine Oil is consumable Items, that's y they charge . They also Give me a Bill mentioning the Items Engine oil and Oil Filter totals Cost Rs.345.

              Oops, sorry. I misinterpreted it.

              Cheerz!!
              The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

              Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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              • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                Oops, sorry. I misinterpreted it.

                Cheerz!!
                No problem Bro... I guess I have to go with yamahalube Engine Oil.

                thanks for the reply

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                • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                  Originally posted by bikashnayak View Post
                  No problem Bro... I guess I have to go with yamahalube Engine Oil.
                  thanks for the reply
                  you can use Yamalube Semi-synthetic.. ask them to fill up that.. they won't argue much..
                  that oil is more or less same as Motul 5100.. i have used it and feels way better than the Mineral Yamalube..

                  Ride safe and have fun.
                  Regards
                  Nadeem

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                    My Spark Plug ran about 1800kms (after fitting a new one) and it went kaput. Looks like it is a case of fouling. But, i am not able to figure out what can be the cause for same. Can anybody throw some light on the same?
                    [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION]... your valuable inputs will be appreciated

                    Cheerz!!
                    The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                    Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                    • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                      Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                      My Spark Plug ran about 1800kms (after fitting a new one) and it went kaput. Looks like it is a case of fouling. But, i am not able to figure out what can be the cause for same. Can anybody throw some light on the same?
                      @shv18... your valuable inputs will be appreciated
                      Cheerz!!
                      the condition looks really bad.. you had only recently changed it na..?
                      let members have a look and reply.. i myself don't know what might have caused it..

                      Ride safe and have fun.
                      Regards
                      Nadeem

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                      • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                        Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                        the condition looks really bad.. you had only recently changed it na..?
                        let members have a look and reply.. i myself don't know what might have caused it..
                        Yup, changed it recently. My last plug went kaput in the same manner. I am not able to figure it out what is the cause of this. I mostly feel it is related to fouling. But, i am not sure about it.

                        Cheerz!!
                        The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                        Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                        • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                          Originally posted by bikashnayak View Post
                          No problem Bro... I guess I have to go with yamahalube Engine Oil.

                          thanks for the reply
                          Why wouldnt the SVC allow you to opt for a different brand of engine oil?
                          If the SVC guys make some fuss (talking about void warranty and all), ask them where is it written that you cannot use engine oils other than Yamahalube.
                          If they still dont agree, fire up a mail to Yamaha about this. They are usually pretty good at responding.

                          I switched out of Yamahalube right from my first service. Used Motul 3000 4T, then 5100 15w50. Recently changed to Motul 7100 20w50.
                          Motul 5100 is good. Will reduce heating and makes for a smooth engine. But be prepared for a little drop in mileage as this oil is pretty thick.
                          Else use Motul 3000 4T. Pretty good engine oil.

                          Everytime I used to give my bike for servicing, I used to tell them not to change the oil as I will bring the oil myself and they wrote that down on the job sheet. While collecting the bike, I used to give them the oil and they used to fill it in front of me. This is at Orion motors here in bangalore.


                          Originally posted by devils_friend View Post

                          My Spark Plug ran about 1800kms (after fitting a new one) and it went kaput. Looks like it is a case of fouling. But, i am not able to figure out what can be the cause for same. Can anybody throw some light on the same?
                          @shv18... your valuable inputs will be appreciated

                          Cheerz!!
                          Bro, the mixture looks to be extremely rich. Did you or anyone play with the carb settings recently?
                          You should show this to the SVC and get it fixed.

                          Cheers!!
                          Your pair of feet can tire you... Your pair of wheels can never tire you...

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                          • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                            Originally posted by Mizt View Post
                            The brake oil was replaced almost thrice the same day but still no use. There are 2 pistons only what the mechanic said was only one of the piston is pushing the pads.
                            He told if I can bring the bike today he would disassemble the brakes clean the calipers and try replacing the oil once again.
                            Took the bike to the mechanic but he was lazy to disassemble the brakes and clean,so he replaced the oil once again and bled the brakes once again. The brake become considerably good but not upto to the mark. I then followed this zip tie trick where we tie the brake lever to the bars to the full extent and leave them overnight. In the morning the brake has got its bite back and as good as new one.

                            For details on this trick try this link: Zip tie on the brake lever - why does this work? | South Bay Riders

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                            • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                              Originally posted by arijitmaniac View Post

                              Bro, the mixture looks to be extremely rich. Did you or anyone play with the carb settings recently?
                              You should show this to the SVC and get it fixed.

                              Cheers!!
                              No clue whether the SVC guy had done any changes in the carb setting. SVC guys are reluctant to touch the carb and somehow i am also not convinced at how sound they are in fixing the carb issue. Will surely give it a try.

                              But, i am not able to understand that, the bike ran 1800kms with new plug and suddenly it went kaput. If the mixture is rich, isn't the plug suppose to go kaput running few kms??


                              Cheerz!!
                              Last edited by devils_friend; 10-16-2013, 01:36 PM.
                              The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                              Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                              • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                                Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                                No clue whether the SVC guy had done any changes in the carb setting. SVC guys are reluctant to touch the carb and somehow i am also not convinced at how sound they are in fixing the carb issue. Will surely give it a try.

                                Thanks for the help.

                                Cheerz!!
                                Well to be honest (and cut the SVC guys some slack ) blockage in the air path can also cause the mixture to go rich (because now there is less air and so more fuel for the available air).
                                Make sure the air filter is not blocked. Once I inadvertently kept my bike documents in front of the air intake under the seat (in my defense it looks like a nice slot to tuck in documents and I was a noob ). My bike was bogging down and unfortunately I ran like this for about 2k kms before its discovery and removal.

                                Make sure the air filter is clean and the air flow is not blocked anyway. Then you can get your carb checked.
                                Dont go to the SVC if they hesitate to touch the carb, go to a mechanic and try showing him the spark plug.

                                Cheers!!
                                Your pair of feet can tire you... Your pair of wheels can never tire you...

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