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  • Originally posted by BlackPanther View Post
    Happy Diwali friends.
    Same to you.


    My Local Mechanic was insisting me to add 1200 ML of Oil like we do in HeroHonda Bikes.
    HH Bikes dont need 1200ml of oil unless you had opened the engine for engine work.

    Just for an experiment, added 150 ML ( which was left after Engine oil change of my Streak )
    Have you checked the oil level now? Didnt it damages the piston rings?

    Planning for Fork Oil replacement, Disk Pad and Disk Oil replacement at 20,000 Kms...
    Also dont forget to replace Sparkplug and Airfilter.

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    • Originally posted by honda_vings View Post
      Hey guyz
      I've made another discovery to improve the uni's performance and this time it is a home made foam-filter for uni.
      All that I did was to remove all the paper material from the original paper filter and use the remaining of the filter body to seal the unit from sucking air from any where else then through the foam filter only. I'd cut a 2 inch thick foam with 12cm by 18 cm dimensions in place of the original paper material in the paper air filter and the difference in performance was just mind-blasting. It was so mind-blasting that I doubted if it will effect the reliability of the engine. So, basically, my question is:
      Is there a special type of foam used for air filters, or the ones used in sofa seats etc are also the same thing.
      Do post some pics of your very interesting mod .
      The foam used for air filters is closed-cell type foam , you may or may not get it at upholstery shops , depending upon the guy understanding "closed-cell" . Better idea is to use foam from a cheap foam type air filter element , like the one that comes OEM with HH splendor or some Bajaj bikes. How did you seal the seams ? Did you oil the foam ?
      In a foam type air filter , the air is not filtered by the foam itself but the oil that it contains . The foam material is just a carrier for the oil . Foam type filters are very robust , can function in damp conditions and has enormous dirt capacity and are the preferred type for off road motocross racing .
      Reliability of the engine will indeed be compromised if your modified filter is not filtering the air much or at all . ( which may be the case since you are obviously getting so much free air flow ) . Usually an oiled-foam air filters flows marginally better than pleated-paper of same dimensions .
      Tip - put a patch of clean white lithium grease anywhere on the intake side of the filter housing before fitting . After some use , take out the filter and inspect the grease patch in light . If there is not much dust/dirt trapped by the greasy patch on the intake side ... the filter is working well .
      Last edited by Pinaki; 10-29-2011, 03:38 AM.

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      • Sorry to poke into this thread. I heard that Unicorns, Activas, Aviators, Twisters & Shines are available off the shelf without any waiting period; like, pay full cash & ride home. Wanted to know how far this is true. Any new owners for Unicorn or any HMSI products, kindly confirm. Tks.
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        • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
          Same to you.
          HH Bikes dont need 1200ml of oil unless you had opened the engine for engine work.
          Have you checked the oil level now? Didnt it damages the piston rings?

          Also dont forget to replace Sparkplug and Airfilter.
          I change my Spark plug every 9000 KM.. And changed Air Filter at 12000Kms.

          Cleaned AirFilter at 18K with my vaccum cleaner

          Actually using my Suzuki to complete the Kms for second service. Uni is waiting for its chance to cruise...


          I also remember my friend telling that he fills 1200ML for his extreme at every oil change.


          Bike behaves like going out of fuel when i slow down. But does not switches off. This happens only after i added additional oil. Need to further check on this.. Covered 19000 by the way.

          Waiting for any new launch from Honda....
          2005 - Hercules MTB Thriller | 2018 - Apollo Evade
          2010 - Unicorn- 61K
          2011 - GS - 49K
          2016 - Gusto - 15K
          2017 - Tiago XZ 1.2P - 11K
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          • Originally posted by aargee View Post
            Sorry to poke into this thread. I heard that Unicorns, Activas, Aviators, Twisters & Shines are available off the shelf without any waiting period; like, pay full cash & ride home. Wanted to know how far this is true. Any new owners for Unicorn or any HMSI products, kindly confirm. Tks.
            I don't think so.

            I was ready to pay full cash for taking a Dazzler but i was told a waiting period of 30 days in the month of August..

            Even checked for DIO some 8 months back. The person who attended the call at JSP Honda told 21 DAYS waiting period for DIO Black.

            Better go the nearby Honda Showroom and check with them..

            I waited 100 days for my Unicorn 21 months back..
            2005 - Hercules MTB Thriller | 2018 - Apollo Evade
            2010 - Unicorn- 61K
            2011 - GS - 49K
            2016 - Gusto - 15K
            2017 - Tiago XZ 1.2P - 11K
            __________________
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            2000-2005 - Hero Skipper | 2014-2018 Hercules Windpacer
            2012 - Activa 39K 2010 - Scooty Streak - 11.5K
            2013 - Nano CX 41.5 K

            Smoking KILLS...
            Wearing chin strap is equally important as wearing helmet.

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            • Originally posted by BlackPanther View Post
              I also remember my friend telling that he fills 1200ML for his extreme at every oil change
              He is wrong bro,Excess oil can damage the piston rings.

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              • Cold Starting trouble in CB Unicorn

                Hello Uni Lovers

                I can see crazy fan following for this machine and thats y I ended up buying one
                Its one month old now and currently the meter stands at 700+ KM.

                Guys I need you help as I am facing starting trouble whenever I start it after a long gap say in morning.
                I use choke as adviced by sales person and service men (as the bike has got its first service done from JB Honda Mayapuri(bad experience)) but even after using choke which I usually use for 30 sec before kick starting and then starting I allow my Uni to ideal for 3~5 min and then only put the first gear but the ride then scares me as the bike moves as if it is not getting enough of petrol and is about to get stopped basically the same feeling which we get as we move to reserve from mains.

                This continues for approx 1.5 Km of run and my uni tries to get stalls till 3rd gear.

                This is really worrying me as I think can this be dangerous for my Uni's engine....so guys please advice how do you start your machines.
                And to add on this I park my bike on -2 in office and to bring it to grnd floor is a very big task as it simply cries to climb up those -2 floors.

                Also please advice about the engine oil currently I have got Honda engine oil and the JB Honda service station advisor also added some additives to this oil saying tht this will is good for the bike probably of 'bardahl'.

                Guys please reply to my starting trouble as each time i start it and put it in first gear I feel i am doing some injustice to my Uni.

                Adding some pics

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                • @ HondaUnicorn

                  i) Immediately drain out the engine oil (when the engine is hot) and refill with plain honda mineral oil, or any mineral oil of the grade that comes recommended for your bike in the owner's manual . motul , gulf , yamalube , shell , veedol are all good .. just ensure it's plain mineral oil ( no synthetic in it ) of the grade the bike should run at your climate . replace oil @ 1500 kms again .

                  ii) If the service center has billed you for that oil additive .. preserve it . Make a written complaint to HMSI about this malpractice by the dealer .

                  iii) Make him correct all these problems with your new bike . Dunno how to say this otherwise , in hindi as they say "Usske saar pe chad jao yaar" .

                  Welcome to xbhp forums .
                  Last edited by Pinaki; 11-03-2011, 01:14 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                    @ HondaUnicorn

                    i) Immediately drain out the engine oil (when the engine is hot) and refill with plain honda mineral oil, or any mineral oil of the grade that comes recommended for your bike in the owner's manual . motul , gulf , yamalube , shell , veedol are all good .. just ensure it's plain mineral oil ( no synthetic in it ) of the grade the bike should run at your climate . replace oil @ 1500 kms again .

                    ii) If the service center has billed you for that oil additive .. preserve it . Make a written complaint to HMSI about this malpractice by the dealer .

                    iii) Make him correct all these problems with your new bike . Dunno how to say this otherwise , in hindi as they say "Usske saar pe chad jao yaar" .

                    Welcome to xbhp forums .
                    Hi Pianki,

                    Thanks for your reply I would like to clarify that they have used Honda engine oil only for bike and its costed me 190 Rs and when additives which costed me 173 Rs when I asked aboout the detalis they said that its approved by Honda and this will be good for engine health since he told me that its approved by Honda so I allowed him to go ahead with it.

                    Meanwhile I will call the Gurgaon facility to confirm about it...
                    http://www.bardahl.com/global.asp
                    Also attached the pic of the supplements used

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                    • Hi All,

                      I have a 2008 unicorn, and i have used it for just 10300 km... It's less mainly because it wasn't used for 15 months as i wasn't in town... Although i've been using it relatively regularly for a year now.

                      I use my bike only on the weekends as i travel by office bus mainly because biking 40+ km to and fro in the bangalore traffic aint fun.

                      My last service was done on january 2011, and i've used around 2500 km since, I know the bike needs servicing. But getting it done on weekends is really difficult mainly because of the crowd and i don't want to compromise on the quality of the service.

                      Therefore I've changed oil couple of days back, as i read somewhere that oil tends to get old inspite of not using it much. So i changed the oil to Shell Advance AX5 20W40, as i wasn't happy that the honda guys 'claim' to put some additive along with the oil to remove friction. Frankly i felt it's crap and i don't like anything getting adultrated.And i filled the full tank after changing the oil.As i wanted to see the performace increase with shell oil and petrol.

                      Now, when i was filling the tank, i came across this dilema:

                      Honda manual says that the tank capacity is 13l, and reserve is 1.3l. Now i assume that the total capacity is either 13l or 14.3l. But here is the strange thing that happened, i had already put 200 bucks worth petrol a week before and rode around 40 km, since 40kmpl is the mileage, i can assume that 1l got used and there was approx 1.5l in the tank. but when i aske the shell guy to fill the tank, it crossed 14l and i'm sure i could put another 500-800 ml. but i asked him to stop.

                      So totally i have around 15.5l in my tank. Is this possible? I really doubt shell would be giving less fuel/litre as the other oil companies. So here are my doubts

                      1)Will this cause problems? as i put more fuel than in the manual?

                      2)I don't want to give for servicing for another couple of months as the service guys will definitely change the oil, which i want to avoid. last time i asked them if they can keep the oil without changing it, and they gave me a puzzled look and asked me how they can service without changing the oil!
                      So what other components can i casually/safetly check with the local mechanic?I always prefer honda service, but i fear their casualness/indifference to individual problems.

                      3)I can hear some sounds from my chain whenever i go over a pothole/speed breaker. Can i get the chain lubricated fro the local mechanic?

                      4)I know i have a very less milege nearly 40, which i really less. Shall i get it tuned from a local mech? The honda guys never addressed this issue.


                      Anymore advices?


                      Regards,
                      Nj

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                      • Originally posted by hondaUnicorn View Post
                        Hi Pianki,
                        Thanks for your reply I would like to clarify that they have used Honda engine oil only for bike and its costed me 190 Rs and when additives which costed me 173 Rs when I asked aboout the detalis they said that its approved by Honda and this will be good for engine health since he told me that its approved by Honda so I allowed him to go ahead with it.
                        Meanwhile I will call the Gurgaon facility to confirm about it...
                        http://www.bardahl.com/global.asp
                        Also attached the pic of the supplements used
                        The dealer told you a lie . If Honda made any such recommendation , it shall be written there in your "owner's manual" ... read it . I am afraid your engine may already be damaged by it . The damage , if any , shall not be reversible .
                        Originally posted by nj_gamer View Post
                        Hi All,
                        I have a 2008 unicorn, and i have used it for just 10300 km... It's less mainly because it wasn't used for 15 months as i wasn't in town... Although i've been using it relatively regularly for a year now.
                        I use my bike only on the weekends as i travel by office bus mainly because biking 40+ km to and fro in the bangalore traffic aint fun.
                        My last service was done on january 2011, and i've used around 2500 km since, I know the bike needs servicing. But getting it done on weekends is really difficult mainly because of the crowd and i don't want to compromise on the quality of the service.
                        Therefore I've changed oil couple of days back, as i read somewhere that oil tends to get old inspite of not using it much. So i changed the oil to Shell Advance AX5 20W40, as i wasn't happy that the honda guys 'claim' to put some additive along with the oil to remove friction. Frankly i felt it's crap and i don't like anything getting adultrated.And i filled the full tank after changing the oil.As i wanted to see the performace increase with shell oil and petrol.
                        Now, when i was filling the tank, i came across this dilema:
                        Honda manual says that the tank capacity is 13l, and reserve is 1.3l. Now i assume that the total capacity is either 13l or 14.3l. But here is the strange thing that happened, i had already put 200 bucks worth petrol a week before and rode around 40 km, since 40kmpl is the mileage, i can assume that 1l got used and there was approx 1.5l in the tank. but when i aske the shell guy to fill the tank, it crossed 14l and i'm sure i could put another 500-800 ml. but i asked him to stop.
                        So totally i have around 15.5l in my tank. Is this possible? I really doubt shell would be giving less fuel/litre as the other oil companies. So here are my doubts

                        1)Will this cause problems? as i put more fuel than in the manual?

                        2)I don't want to give for servicing for another couple of months as the service guys will definitely change the oil, which i want to avoid. last time i asked them if they can keep the oil without changing it, and they gave me a puzzled look and asked me how they can service without changing the oil!
                        So what other components can i casually/safetly check with the local mechanic?I always prefer honda service, but i fear their casualness/indifference to individual problems.
                        3)I can hear some sounds from my chain whenever i go over a pothole/speed breaker. Can i get the chain lubricated fro the local mechanic?
                        4)I know i have a very less milege nearly 40, which i really less. Shall i get it tuned from a local mech? The honda guys never addressed this issue.
                        Anymore advices?
                        Regards,
                        Nj
                        Fuel tank can be filled more than the capacity given by the manufacturer . The extra space is there to allow for various mechanical constrains . It is not advisable to fill over the given capacity . No, it shall not cause any immediate problem to overfill a bit once . Avoid it in future .
                        It is good for you to drain & fill your own oil rather than depend on the Service-Center . Never use any thing else other than pure fresh motor oil in correct grade for the bike . So continue the habit .
                        With engine off and bike in center-stand, Take off the chain cover , it's easy .. just four bolts . All tools for it presently in your tool-kit . Clean chain with kerosene (in a bowl) and an toothbrush . Let dry . Apply SAE90 or EP90 gear oil sparingly with same toothbrush . Apply some clean lithium bearing-grease for good measure . Put back chain cover . Go to local mechanic and ask him to adjust the slack . The correct slack is little more than an inch of travel up/down near the middle of the chain . You can inspect correct slack by removing the round rubber fitting on the chain-cover and checking with your finger .

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                        • [QUOTE=Pinaki;728042]The dealer told you a lie . If Honda made any such recommendation , it shall be written there in your "owner's manual" ... read it . I am afraid your engine may already be damaged by it . The damage , if any , shall not be reversible .

                          Pinaki Sir you have really put me in dilema ..what to do now considering that I am going on a ride with friends over the weekend and this is really worrying me

                          I will not leave them in case it had done any damage to my bikes engine ... rest I tried to confirm this additive things from some other service centre in delhi and they also told the same that we use it as it is prescribed by honda.

                          I have also written a complain to HMSI..keeping my fingers crossed..

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                          • Hi

                            Be very careful while cleaning the chain.

                            Your finger may get stuck between the chain the the rear spoket.

                            You may lose your finger

                            Never turn on the engine while you clean your chain.

                            I had a bad cut 2 years back while doing so..
                            2005 - Hercules MTB Thriller | 2018 - Apollo Evade
                            2010 - Unicorn- 61K
                            2011 - GS - 49K
                            2016 - Gusto - 15K
                            2017 - Tiago XZ 1.2P - 11K
                            __________________
                            Sold
                            2000-2005 - Hero Skipper | 2014-2018 Hercules Windpacer
                            2012 - Activa 39K 2010 - Scooty Streak - 11.5K
                            2013 - Nano CX 41.5 K

                            Smoking KILLS...
                            Wearing chin strap is equally important as wearing helmet.

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                            • Originally posted by hondaUnicorn View Post
                              Pinaki Sir you have really put me in dilema ..what to do now considering that I am going on a ride with friends over the weekend and this is really worrying me
                              I will not leave them in case it had done any damage to my bikes engine ... rest I tried to confirm this additive things from some other service centre in delhi and they also told the same that we use it as it is prescribed by honda.
                              I have also written a complain to HMSI..keeping my fingers crossed..
                              A bottle of fresh 20w40 Motul 3000 4T plus oil costs around 220 Rs and 15 mins to change . Not worth worrying about . Drain the present oil along with those additives now , and fill fresh oil .. baas . A fresh fill of oil will benefit you anyway for a long ride . Drain the old oil while the engine is hot after a ride .
                              Were any one of those dealers able to show you the "prescription" from HMSI ? What does your owner's manual say about engine oil ?
                              You can take all these action against ASC with just the bill which shows use of oil-additive . Not wise to risk your new engine's health now for what ever corrective action HMSI may take later on . No ?
                              Last edited by Pinaki; 11-05-2011, 04:22 AM.

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                              • @Pinaki
                                Thanks for your advise, I won't put so much petrol. I'll attempt cleaning the chain tommo... I always wanted to get my hands greasy...

                                I read your previous post regarding the irreversible damage to the engine because of the additive added by the honda guys. I'd not bothered about it earlier as i had 0 knowledge of bikes and trusted the Honda Guys
                                Now i really don't know what to do, i really love my bike and i've let them use that additive atleast for 5-6 services, i really hope the Shell oil somehow magically 'heals' the engine..

                                Also there is some sound coming from the bottom left side whenever i go on potholes, and while changing the gears. Could something be loose? My gears too have become rough. But i'm sure i cannot give it for service for another 2 months, is there anything i can do for the gearbox?

                                Regards,
                                Nj

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