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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by Zaid77 View Post
    I've put H4 16v Turbo Led 40W in my 250 and its works soo much better than the stock halogen.
    The light spread is simply amazing.[emoji7]
    Previously i had Osram Night Breaker Unlimited and they're really good compare to stock ones but after using the LED, i simply cannot go back to halogens [emoji6]

    1st and 2nd pic is Osram NB unlimited Lo/Hi.
    3rd and 4th is Turbo Led Lo/Hi.

    Sorry for the picture quality as it was taken by my phone, thats why the High beams cannot be seen properly [emoji29]

    -Zaid [emoji111]
    Does it need any relays or extra wiring? Or just plug-and-play.
    Ur saying it's better than stock halogens & Osram NB too??
    Can u give the link for the product??

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
      Braking Query: (i did not go through the entire thread in detail, as it's vast!)

      I own a 2011 Std model. For all this time i've been experimenting on various methods to improve braking. Changed Disc pads, changed oil to DOT4, but still feel the brakes are inadequate, which results in me riding conservatively. Can senior riders and members give your 2 paisa on how to improve braking? My current tyres are Michelin Street Radial at the front and Pilot Sporty at the rear (both changed at the same time, run for around 18K kms).

      I've locked the rear multiple times, never crashed or fallen though (touch wood). But the rear locks are kind of unsettling during the long runs with about 40 kilos of luggage strapped to the tail.

      If there are some after market components that would enhance braking, can you kindly provide the costs of the same, and where i could source it from. TIA!
      When you use the word "inadequate", the first question comes to mind is are you using proper braking techniques ? because the bike is not alone responsible for the chaos.

      Braking is adequate on the CBRs, only thing it demands is proper hands on the brake.

      You are not supposed to use rear brake every now and then and even if is it used it has to be a minimal affair. Front has to be used more in bringing the bike to halt, use rear only to cut down speeds and that too tap it once- leave the brake-tap it (this is what I follow). I am reliable on the front brakes more and that IMHO is sufficient.

      If you still want to improve feedback, you can get steel braided lines, EBC or galfer HH sintered pads. But that will be a big investment, knowing that the brakes have enough feedback and stopping power when calculated properly.

      Use 70% front and 30% rear.

      Cheers,
      Sanjay
      Last edited by sanjaysangar1990; 01-28-2016, 09:58 AM.
      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/touring-queries-route-planning-itinerary/33587-endurance-ride.html

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
        Braking Query: (i did not go through the entire thread in detail, as it's vast!)

        I own a 2011 Std model. For all this time i've been experimenting on various methods to improve braking. Changed Disc pads, changed oil to DOT4, but still feel the brakes are inadequate, which results in me riding conservatively. Can senior riders and members give your 2 paisa on how to improve braking? My current tyres are Michelin Street Radial at the front and Pilot Sporty at the rear (both changed at the same time, run for around 18K kms).

        I've locked the rear multiple times, never crashed or fallen though (touch wood). But the rear locks are kind of unsettling during the long runs with about 40 kilos of luggage strapped to the tail.

        If there are some after market components that would enhance braking, can you kindly provide the costs of the same, and where i could source it from. TIA!
        Does the rear brake even lock up in 250r? :O Even if I stamp on it the rear doesn't lock up in mine. I thought it was the nature of the cbr due to its weight. I rely on engine braking rather than just the brakes. But at times during critical stops I don't feel rear is adequate.

        Any pointers what should I check in the rear brakes. Brake pads are 5k old, more than half of it left.
        Ride Safe!

        Cheers,
        Maneesh S

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
          When you use the word "inadequate", the first question comes to mind is are you using proper braking techniques ? because the bike is not alone responsible for the chaos.

          Braking is adequate on the CBRs, only thing it demands is proper hands on the brake.

          You are not supposed to use rear brake every now and then and even if is it used it has to be a minimal affair. Front has to be used more in bringing the bike to halt, use rear only to cut down speeds and that too tap it once- leave the brake-tap it (this is what I follow). I am reliable on the front brakes more and that IMHO is sufficient.

          If you still want to improve feedback, you can get steel braided lines, EBC or galfer HH sintered pads. But that will be a big investment, knowing that the brakes have enough feedback and stopping power when calculated properly.

          Use 70% front and 30% rear.

          Cheers,
          Sanjay
          Yep, tried all sorts of braking techniques. As I'd mentioned, I own a 2011 CBR, from the first batch in Chennai. There were a few recalls going on during that time w.r.t braking issues. The latter versions of the bike had these ironed out. Mine did not get recalled (bought it second hand, first owner didnt really take care of the bike, however it's the same mechanic who's been working on the bike since 11, hence i can say it didnt get recalled.)

          w.r.t to the above mentioned parts, do you have any idea where i could source them from? Investment isnt an issue.

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by sman999 View Post
            But at times during critical stops I don't feel rear is adequate.

            Any pointers what should I check in the rear brakes. Brake pads are 5k old, more than half of it left.
            Rear brakes are never meant to bring the bike to halt. Only front ones are supposed to be used. We use rear to keep things balanced.

            I have never locked the rear wheels too, in my 23k journey with CBR.

            Cheers,
            Sanjay
            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/touring-queries-route-planning-itinerary/33587-endurance-ride.html

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
              .
              I have never locked the rear wheels too, in my 23k journey with CBR.
              Isn't yours the ABS model?
              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                Isn't yours the ABS model?
                No saar!!!! Its non-abs

                Cheers,
                Sanjay
                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/touring-queries-route-planning-itinerary/33587-endurance-ride.html

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by leech View Post
                  Do LED'S offer better light/life than CBR stock bulb? I remember the 20rs bulb which Honda gave was mildly irritating at night, whenever we pressed the brakes, that's how bright it was.
                  LED's consume less power, and yes they do provide higher output for the power consumed, and good quality LED last a VERY long time.

                  Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
                  Braking Query: (i did not go through the entire thread in detail, as it's vast!)

                  I own a 2011 Std model. For all this time i've been experimenting on various methods to improve braking. Changed Disc pads, changed oil to DOT4, but still feel the brakes are inadequate, which results in me riding conservatively. Can senior riders and members give your 2 paisa on how to improve braking? My current tyres are Michelin Street Radial at the front and Pilot Sporty at the rear (both changed at the same time, run for around 18K kms).

                  I've locked the rear multiple times, never crashed or fallen though (touch wood). But the rear locks are kind of unsettling during the long runs with about 40 kilos of luggage strapped to the tail.

                  If there are some after market components that would enhance braking, can you kindly provide the costs of the same, and where i could source it from. TIA!
                  It's kinda hard to speculate, Jon. But let me throw in some light, first off, I ain't no Rossi or Markey, but braking, is more or less an acquired skill as the act of balancing the bike itself. Braking requires calculated pre-planning, this includes distance to stop, the right brake pressure, what brakes are applied either (front/rear) and so on and so forth. But what is more important is how the brake components deliver the feel the rider through the brake lever. From a personal experience, a brake lever communicates to a rider more than the bike itself. You've had braking issue earlier with the bike, if I remember correctly with those piston seal replacement.

                  What's the current odo reading?
                  How are your disc rotors, both front and rear? Do you see step scores or circles of significant depth, where the inner part of the rotor is deeper, running your fingers through the disc will let you know this. Worn rotor significantly reduce the brake feel.

                  And what's your braking pattern, what brakes do you use more, rear or front or say in an emergency which brakes do you give more preference to, front or rear? All these can shed some light as to your braking pattern and the overall braking efficiency, would love to hear from you.

                  Originally posted by Kiran.jagtap View Post
                  Miserably failed[emoji20]
                  Somehow i managed to get the tail light out, but the red transparent cover is not easily removable from casing. There are 5 snaplocks but it seems that it is also glued to casing just like headlight. A little force started breaking the small pieces. So had to left my DIY.
                  Yes, they are sealed to prevent water from seeping inside the tail lamp, the same applies for the headlight assembly too.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                  The girl said, 'NO!'


                  And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                  THE END

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                    LED's consume less power, and yes they do provide higher output for the power consumed, and good quality LED last a VERY long time.



                    It's kinda hard to speculate, Jon. But let me throw in some light, first off, I ain't no Rossi or Markey, but braking, is more or less an acquired skill as the act of balancing the bike itself. Braking requires calculated pre-planning, this includes distance to stop, the right brake pressure, what brakes are applied either (front/rear) and so on and so forth. But what is more important is how the brake components deliver the feel the rider through the brake lever. From a personal experience, a brake lever communicates to a rider more than the bike itself. You've had braking issue earlier with the bike, if I remember correctly with those piston seal replacement.

                    What's the current odo reading?
                    How are your disc rotors, both front and rear? Do you see step scores or circles of significant depth, where the inner part of the rotor is deeper, running your fingers through the disc will let you know this. Worn rotor significantly reduce the brake feel.

                    And what's your braking pattern, what brakes do you use more, rear or front or say in an emergency which brakes do you give more preference to, front or rear? All these can shed some light as to your braking pattern and the overall braking efficiency, would love to hear from you.


                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Hi VJ! really appreciate the reply man! So yeah, i had issues with the piston rings going kaput some time back. My reasoning that braking is lacking in my bike, is in direct comparison to a friend's 2013 CBR 250.

                    Braking Habit: My usual is 70% front and 30% rear. During panic/emergency braking, i cut down the gears (2/3 gears for extreme situations), use the same 70:30 ratio, and this is when the rear locks and slides out, never the front, but only the rear. This behaviour has been consistent from the old Conti tyres to the Michelin upgrade, before the piston ring change to the present condition.

                    Rotor condition: The rear rotor is well within specs and doesnt need replacement for atleast another 20K kms (i got paranoid and asked the mech to measure it in my presence with a gauge). I do see circles on the rotor, but they're not really deep ones, rather like surface pitting.

                    Brake lever: Absolutely no feedback, feels wooden. The rear lever has only about 1.5 inches of function (meaning, the operational travel for the lever is ~1.5 inches, and if i push more, the wheel locks up)

                    Brake oil: upgraded to DOT 4 about 4 months back.

                    Tyres: Changed it when the odo read ~12K kms, still has a lotta life left. Front is Michelin Pilot Street Radial and rear is Pilot Sporty (non radial)

                    Current odo reading: 30K kms.

                    Concerns: My main concern/paranoia is that the previous owner did not send the bike when it was recalled for brake issues.

                    I love the vehicle for it's comfort and long distance usability, and want to own and take care of it till one of us bite the dust. I wouldnt mind upgrading the entire system, if that would be advisable.

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
                      Hi VJ!....Concerns: My main concern/paranoia is that the previous owner did not send the bike when it was recalled for brake issues.

                      I love the vehicle for it's comfort and long distance usability, and want to own and take care of it till one of us bite the dust. I wouldnt mind upgrading the entire system, if that would be advisable.
                      From what I fathom to understand, the rear is having the wooden feel and the front doesn't offer the feedback that it used to give. Trust your front brakes, they will STOP the damn thing. As good as a paranoia might sound, I'd suggest not to take it too much to the mind. What I'd suggest personally would be this, if you've experienced good braking feedback from your friend's bike and had the same feedback on your bike earlier and not now or it's worse, I'd suggest you change the rear brake pads, glaze them a little before and bleed the rear once again, and then see how fares. For now, this is the only alternate that can be done.

                      Lo and behold if you still face the issue, then let's consider a replacement of MC for the rear and see what can be done. I hope this is of some help.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                      The girl said, 'NO!'


                      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                      THE END

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by hgps View Post
                        I have a couple of queries about the bike:

                        1. Any idea what this is? It fell from my bike yesterday, and i have no idea where it came from.







                        2. I have a habit of pulling the clutch, engaging first gear, and killing the engine (keeping clutch pulled) BEFORE coming to a complete halt (with speed of 10-12kph), When i do so, i hear tak tak tak sound from gearbox/front sproket area that varies according to speed of the bike. this sound stops if i slightly engage the clutch (to the point when engine braking comes into effect). Is this normal?

                        3. There is a small access window on the airbox to facilitate replacement of airfilter. I removed it once and loved the induction sound. Will it harm the bike to remove this access window cover? I know i will have to replace filter more frequently but will it cause any long term harm? I read a lot of posts about this and people had mixed opinions.
                        Any idea where this piece came from?
                        There is no destination, I just want to keep riding.

                        Honda CBR 650F / CBR 250R ABS Repsol (Sold) / Yamaha FZ-S

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by hgps View Post
                          Any idea where this piece came from?
                          I think it doesn't belong to CBR. It may have fallen from other bikes/vehicles. I have not seen such lids/caps in my CBR yet.
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                          ARVIND K. YADAV

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by hgps View Post
                            Any idea where this piece came from?
                            The peice has fallen from beneath the lockset of CBR have a look there.

                            I urge everyone to look at the same in your respected bikes.

                            This portion is a cap which sits beneath the lockset, look from below the headlight.

                            Cheers,
                            Sanjay
                            Last edited by sanjaysangar1990; 01-29-2016, 06:07 PM.
                            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/touring-queries-route-planning-itinerary/33587-endurance-ride.html

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Hello guys! Anyone tried GIVI Top box in CBR250? I have GIVI SLIM box already but badly need a Monorack kind of part. Is it available anywhere in India?
                              2012 HONDA CBR 250 R C-ABS
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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                OK guys I switched back from my custom exhaust pipe to the stock exhaust, the stock suddenly feels a lot smoother, I guess not using it for a long time made it like that, I intend to keep the stock exhaust till I make my final exhaust, with a ecu tuning and maybe change of air filter and will test it for a few 1000km n see how the engine health and bike is, also im changing engine oil every 3000km with 60-70% of normal riding and 20-30% of revs over 5000rpm , also been running on front stock tyres right now at 17737km and rear mrf 140/60 km since 12000km because of continuous puncturing of the stock rear conti, I plan to change to new set of proper size mrf for front and rear, the temporary rear tyre was given to me for free soo yeah, I like to know if my rim or handling would be affected?.

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