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I do not see this as a problem, as i too find the neutral light dims a little bit when i engage the brake light in my CBR. Mine is >3 year old bike with factory fitted battery.

In fact i observed it in my older bike too. This is more common in almost all items related to electrical load. When additional load is added to the circuit there will be voltage drop from the source as it has to provide power to the new load too.

You only have to worry if the dimming of the console lights are more when a new load(say horn, head light or indicator) is used. Then you may have to check your battery/alternator, the wiring harness(but usually it will last much longer unless its tampered with) or the actual load itself.

Ram

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Console lights shouldn't flicker, probably they dim a little when the headlight is used w.r.t indicators, which is normal. If either the console or pilot lamp totally switches off and flickers then we have trouble. Subtle dimming isn't a probable problem per se. If possible, please put up a video, we can have a look at it, will help us all get more insight.

Cheers!
VJ

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My console backlight is dimming when the indicators and headlamp are switched on. It does brighten up when I rev the engine.

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Sure, I will click some pics tonight. Posted pics are of cree + HL.

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Guys, I have a doubt about the stator coil - a couple of TNT 25 bike owners had their stator coil go kaput due to heat, also I remember a ninja 650 owner Sachin Nair had his stator coil replaced at 50k kms. He mentioned that it may have worn out due to heat.

Where is the stator coil in the CBR and is there any way we can extend its life?

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Stator coil's do not usually fail 'early'(sometimes outlast the bike itself), well.. there are a few exceptions like the older ktm's that had failures much earlier (some as low at 5k km). This could be attributed the quality of the coil used combined with the heat from the engine.
The stator coil is usually located in the crank case on the opp side of the clutch (i.e. usually inside the left side crank case cover) and it is cooled by the engine oil (let's say it soaks in a bath tub of oil!)
Periodic engine oil changes at recommended (or earlier intervals) will keep the stator coil in good working order (there isn't much you can do if the coil itself is made of poor quality/gauge copper.. but such manufacturing shortcomings are rare)

Here is a more detailed info on stator coils : Stators

And remember there are lot of other stuff that can fail (but often don't).. so if you are paranoid (or let me make you paranoid!) here are some items that could fail (and might make the bike unusable).
1. Relay's
2. Sensors (e.g. roll over sensor, side stand sensor)
2. Fuel pump
3. Ignition coil
4. Regulator-Rectifier (this is the one that has a more probability of failing compared to the stator coil). The RR unit+stator is responsible for charging the battery.
5. ECU
6. Ignition switch (Read about code 19 on the R3)
It's usually the electrical/electronics that are a headache when they fail.. and they do. So educate yourself on these (more so on the ones present on your bike) and carry the spares (small inexpensive parts like the relay, fuses , sensors) when you go on long trips.

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Can bombay members tell me reliable asc's?

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Hello again everyone. I don't know if you all know but I've been on the verge of getting a quarter litre for about 2 years now. It's finally the time for my quarter litre purchase. I was hell bent on the Ninja till yesterday. I went to the KTM showroom at Mekhri circle(Bangaloreans will know), but to my dismay, I was told that I will have to wait 5 months for any news on the Ninja 300. They also informed me that they are clearing their stocks of all Kawasaki bikes - which I attribute to the split between Kawa and Bajaj. In light of these events, I am unwilling to bet my money on the Ninja for at least another 2 or 3 years. I never trusted the R3 to begin with, so my go to bike is the CBR250R. This is not a compromise for me as I was always considering the CBR250R as an equal to the Ninja 300 and R3 (despite many advises that they bikes can't be put in the same class - I'm weird like that ). I just preferred the Ninja because I loved the bike when I rode it and I was 'boycotting' Honda for not bringing the updates to India. But, I'm ever the opportunist, so right now I am poised to purchase the CBR250R.

I have a couple of questions I'd like to be clear on -
1. I noticed that the CBR still comes equipped with continentals. I've heard these are not very good tyres? This was about 2 years ago. Did any of you change the tyres when they were new itself? What tyres are you using now? Is it okay to stick with the continentals? Has anyone seen the need to upsize the tyre? Is it possible to upsize at all?
2. I've had one ABS bike - the TVS RTR180. I found the ABS intrusive and unnecessary. It did save me from rear ending the vehicle in front of me a couple of times, but I had no idea about the maintenance of the technology and neither did the ASC mechs. Is this the case with the CBR too? I'd rather not have ABS if it is going to cause problems. How are the brakes on the non abs version? I test rode the ABS version and found that the brakes were actually acceptable - almost progressive and the ABS didn't intrude my braking even the least bit. This was the TR bike so I have no idea if it was the real deal.
3. Bangalore specific question - I plan on getting he bike serviced at Dhruvdesh Honda itself because I live in Yelahanka and every other Honda ASC is too far away. Are they good enough? Is there anyone special I need to ask for when getting my bike serviced?

TIA!

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Madhav, if you have the cash for the r3, go for it. It's sexy, dude.

The new Contigo tyres are good. I trust them to knee down on dry, clear visibility curves. As always, if you grab the front brake on a non ABS, you're going to fly. I flew three times so far. Grab the rear, and your butt is gonna dance.

Honda ABS is different from other ABS, I've heard.

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To answer your questions.
1. Contigo is hard compound, so it won't be as good as say Metzler(soft compound) sticky tyres, but the plus is that these have a long tread life. Most CBR owners have pilot Street radials(medium compound) a compromise of both life and grip.
Maybe you could try the new messeter tyres from MRF and let us know.
2. I am not sure how an ABS could be intrusive, may be it is the specific bike. But what happens when I panic brake in CBR is that the bike stops without the wheel's locking. I am not sure if I will ever go back to a non-abs bike now, since now I am so used to applying brakes without worrying about the wheel locking.
Though from my perspective, the mechanics in my city know what they are doing when it comes to CBR, atleast the one's I have dealt with.
3. Not sure, I am in Chennai.

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Ah leech, the amount of people who have laughed at me when I said I'm picking the CBR(the small voice in my head included) is too many. I know the R3 is the sane choice here. It's fresh, looks killer and literally saves me from craving a 650 upgrade by closing the gap in the two classes. I know all this. BUT. There's always that but. The R3 is new and it has issues that need sorting. They may get sorted without much huffing and puffing. I may never see the face of these issues. But knowing my luck, I know things wont go smoothly for me. My internal bike compass is pointing to the CBR and I can't ignore it.

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No the latest batches of cbr 250r that I saw came in with mrf zappers.. I'm from tamilnadu.

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Good. But these are too big and the load would be a little heavy. I just wanna stick with 10w led. Let me try my best and see what I can do. Will post updates for sure.

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Here's the video of console backlight dimming. Please have a look at it.

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And I saw them with Contigo's in Hyderabad.... they are probably using both brands depending on their stock availability. [MENTION=43265]madhav766[/MENTION] before you start thinking about swapping tires right out of the showroom, I'd suggest you use the bike for around 3-4k km on the stock tires (at-least the rear)
Considering it's not the rainy season, and the contigo's are pretty decent in the dry.. i think you should use the tires yourself to form an opinion.
I've see a lot of folks whose 'blame' or 'praise' for a tire turns out different for me.. and a lot of it can be attributed to the rider(riding style, experience etc..), the motorcycle/suspension setup and also the tire temp (some tires grip much better when they are warmed up after a few km)
My 2 cents on the tire choice for the front, the mrf revz fc or fc1 (the one that come on the duke). One of the best tires in terms of grip for the stock size at a good price.