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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by s1d View Post
    And I saw them with Contigo's in Hyderabad.... they are probably using both brands depending on their stock availability. @madhav766 before you start thinking about swapping tires right out of the showroom, I'd suggest you use the bike for around 3-4k km on the stock tires (at-least the rear)
    Considering it's not the rainy season, and the contigo's are pretty decent in the dry.. i think you should use the tires yourself to form an opinion.
    I've see a lot of folks whose 'blame' or 'praise' for a tire turns out different for me.. and a lot of it can be attributed to the rider(riding style, experience etc..), the motorcycle/suspension setup and also the tire temp (some tires grip much better when they are warmed up after a few km)
    My 2 cents on the tire choice for the front, the mrf revz fc or fc1 (the one that come on the duke). One of the best tires in terms of grip for the stock size at a good price.
    Those were the lines I was thinking on. I think that what I am going to do. I've have had worse tyres(TVS on the RTR I used to ride), so I think I can handle the Contigos in avert situations. I think I'll use the Contigos till they wear out, then pick the best tyres I can afford. I did test the Contigos and I believe they are, like you said, better when they're warmer. But just one look at the tyres will tell you they are a pain to warm up. Which is my only concern. Thanks for the advice!
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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
      Hello again everyone. I don't know if you all know but I've been on the verge of getting a quarter litre for about 2 years now. It's finally the time for my quarter litre purchase. I was hell bent on the Ninja till yesterday. I went to the KTM showroom at Mekhri circle(Bangaloreans will know), but to my dismay, I was told that I will have to wait 5 months for any news on the Ninja 300. They also informed me that they are clearing their stocks of all Kawasaki bikes - which I attribute to the split between Kawa and Bajaj. In light of these events, I am unwilling to bet my money on the Ninja for at least another 2 or 3 years. I never trusted the R3 to begin with, so my go to bike is the CBR250R. This is not a compromise for me as I was always considering the CBR250R as an equal to the Ninja 300 and R3 (despite many advises that they TIA!
      Liked your honest inputs out here. Keeping it short, ABS are calibrated by differentently and are bike specific. CBR's ABS is very smooth and doesn't intrude say as TVS or KTMs where the latter offers quite a feedback on slippery roads. Now, ABS or no ABS, pros and cons apart, with the upcoming ABS regulation, I'd suggest you consider yourself getting the ABS CBR. It's very finely calibrated and offers pin point precision in on and off road.

      ABS serviceability and consumables wise, though the ABS pads are comparatively costlier than what the non-ABS has to offer, they last much much longer than the non-ABS and offer superb progressive brake feedback.

      Originally posted by leech View Post
      Guys, I have a doubt about the stator coil - a couple of TNT 25 bike owners had their stator coil go kaput due to heat, also I remember a ninja 650 owner Sachin Nair had his stator coil replaced at 50k kms. He mentioned that it may have worn out due to heat.

      Where is the stator coil in the CBR and is there any way we can extend its life?
      Heat is the primary killer of all stator coils, it's been case with many brands across the globe. Usually stator going kaput is due to to extreme wear and tear and on older bikes and very high mileage bikes. There isn't any peculiar way to increase the life of a stator, these are all electrical components, so you never know when they can give up. Ride it till they last..

      Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
      Those were the lines I was thinking on. I think that what I am going to do. I've have had worse tyres(TVS on the RTR I used to ride), so I think I can handle the Contigos in avert situations. I think I'll use the Contigos till they wear out, then pick the best tyres I can afford. I did test the Contigos and I believe they are, like you said, better when they're warmer. But just one look at the tyres will tell you they are a pain to warm up. Which is my only concern. Thanks for the advice!
      I am not sure how "batch" specific this is, but most CBR 250s come shod with MRF as opposed to the Continental these days. Happen to inspect a brand new CBR 250 here in Hyderabad with a Contigo, with ABS, so the idea behind random MRF and Contigo is best left to Honda themselves. Secondly, Contigo, offers good grip that is unless they aren't cupped or worn to an extent. They get hard pretty easily and start cracking that's one problem with the Contigos, same as those Old TVS Sri Chakra tyres.

      In short, either swap the Contigo to the Zapper if you intend to get the Contigo as a new one, or ride with the Contigo and upgrade to Michelin Pilot Street which offers better performance and life.

      Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post
      Here's the video of console backlight dimming. Please have a look at it.
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0S...w?usp=drivesdk
      I don't see any dimming per se, and again, as I reiterated, if there is a slight dimming when using your flashers, it's absolutely normal.

      Cheers!
      VJ
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      The girl said, 'NO!'


      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


      THE END

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
        I had no idea about the maintenance of the technology and neither did the ASC mechs. Is this the case with the CBR too?
        Nothing out of the ordinary on ABS specific maintenance apart from the brake oil bleed process on the C-ABS units. You cannot bleed it like you do on other bikes. And all mechs are well versed with it too.
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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
          Hello again everyone. I don't know if you all know but I've been on the verge of getting a quarter litre for about 2 years now. It's finally the time for my quarter litre purchase. I was hell bent on the Ninja till yesterday. I went to the KTM showroom at Mekhri circle(Bangaloreans will know), but to my dismay, I was ..............
          3. Bangalore specific question - I plan on getting he bike serviced at Dhruvdesh Honda itself because I live in Yelahanka and every other Honda ASC is too far away. Are they good enough? Is there anyone special I need to ask for when getting my bike serviced?

          TIA!
          Hi Madhav! If you're hell bent on the CBR, then go for it.

          1. There a few bikes shod with conti's and a few bikes shod with MRF's. Depends on locality/availability I guess. The older Conti's were terrible tyres, but I have heard from a couple of recent owners that the Conti's were better (have not personally experienced it, so I do not vouch for it).Stick with the Conti's till they wear out, they are terrible, but manageable. I've used a set of PSD's, Michelins and am on my 4th set of MRF's (RevzFC and RevzC) I have upsized the rear to 150 because the RevzC doesn't come in 140 (no effects to mileage/acceleration/top speed) So yes, you can upsize, but to a marginal amount.

          2. ABS is worth every single penny spent! I have a Std version and have come across many "balls in throat" moments!The Honda mechanics are very familiar with the ABS system, and you won't have much trouble with it. The ABS doesn't kick in, as in the Apache, I'd say it would kick in 20% later than it does in the apache. My personal advice, is if you've learnt braking on an ABS machine, stick to ABS.

          3. Head to Tansi Honda for servicing. I've recently moved to Bangalore from Chennai, and thanks to my linguistic disability, I've had shitty treatment from most of the SVC's near Domlur (especially Haiku Honda). Headed to Tansi Honda after a few friends suggested the same, and was pleasantly surprised with the customer service and the knowledge of the Mechanics there. They also have the largest inventory of spares in Bangalore I believe (for the CBR).

          P.S: Let's meet up sometime! I'm put up pretty close to you, I stay at ISRO Quarters Domlur.
          P.P.S: If you still consider the Ninja 300, let me know, I might be able to help you with sourcing one.

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            I am not too active on xBhp related to posting replies but I usually login sometimes a week to check for updates. Well here is a nice little update from my side today! Just booked the ABS version! Will probably get it till next Sunday. This one had MRF tyres so thats a big thumbs up for me!

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            Now the wait begins!!

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by AshishTamhane View Post
              I am not too active on xBhp related to posting replies but I usually login sometimes a week to check for updates. Well here is a nice little update from my side today! Just booked the ABS version! Will probably get it till next Sunday. This one had MRF tyres so thats a big thumbs up for me!

              Now the wait begins!!
              Congratulations, do post some clear pics, of the bike, from as many angles you can. We're never tired of photos, are we.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
              The girl said, 'NO!'


              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


              THE END

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                Hello again everyone. I don't know if you all know but I've been on the verge of getting a quarter litre for about 2 years now. It's finally the time for my quarter litre purchase. I was hell bent on the Ninja till yesterday. I went to the KTM showroom at Mekhri circle(Bangaloreans will know), but to my dismay, I was told that I will have to wait 5 months for any news on the Ninja 300. They also informed me that they are clearing their stocks of all Kawasaki bikes - which I attribute to the split between Kawa and Bajaj. In light of these events, I am unwilling to bet my money on the Ninja for at least another 2 or 3 years. I never trusted the R3 to begin with, so my go to bike is the CBR250R. This is not a compromise for me as I was always considering the CBR250R as an equal to the Ninja 300 and R3 (despite many advises that they bikes can't be put in the same class - I'm weird like that ). I just preferred the Ninja because I loved the bike when I rode it and I was 'boycotting' Honda for not bringing the updates to India. But, I'm ever the opportunist, so right now I am poised to purchase the CBR250R.

                I have a couple of questions I'd like to be clear on -
                1. I noticed that the CBR still comes equipped with continentals. I've heard these are not very good tyres? This was about 2 years ago. Did any of you change the tyres when they were new itself? What tyres are you using now? Is it okay to stick with the continentals? Has anyone seen the need to upsize the tyre? Is it possible to upsize at all?
                2. I've had one ABS bike - the TVS RTR180. I found the ABS intrusive and unnecessary. It did save me from rear ending the vehicle in front of me a couple of times, but I had no idea about the maintenance of the technology and neither did the ASC mechs. Is this the case with the CBR too? I'd rather not have ABS if it is going to cause problems. How are the brakes on the non abs version? I test rode the ABS version and found that the brakes were actually acceptable - almost progressive and the ABS didn't intrude my braking even the least bit. This was the TR bike so I have no idea if it was the real deal.
                3. Bangalore specific question - I plan on getting he bike serviced at Dhruvdesh Honda itself because I live in Yelahanka and every other Honda ASC is too far away. Are they good enough? Is there anyone special I need to ask for when getting my bike serviced?

                TIA!
                Hi buddy,
                Speaking about the tyres on the 2016 model, i got my bike(non-ABS) delivered in march 2016 and it came with MRF tyres. I had specifically asked the dealer about the tyres and made sure it came with MRFs. Confirm with the dealer about this.
                ABS is always a win! I regret for not buying the ABS version. If you have the cash, don't think much just go for the ABS version.
                All the best! Keep us updated!

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post
                  Hi buddy,
                  Speaking about the tyres on the 2016 model, i got my bike(non-ABS) delivered in march 2016 and it came with MRF tyres. I had specifically asked the dealer about the tyres and made sure it came with MRFs. Confirm with the dealer about this.
                  ABS is always a win! I regret for not buying the ABS version. If you have the cash, don't think much just go for the ABS version.
                  All the best! Keep us updated!
                  Bro I own a 2014 non abs version, in Indian traffic conditions abs is important but not impossible to live on the CBR .I changed my brake lines to steel braided ones which my uncle got me from Thailand. And boy it makes a whole lot of difference on the feel of front brakes. I will strongly advice you to upgrade your brake lines to quality steel braided ones. Also ive heard the 390 brake calipers is a direct for for the CBR , not sure how true, I'm just speculating and enquiring. Also why am I not able to see a lot of posts... Can any mods can tell me why?

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                    Bro I own a 2014 non abs version, in Indian traffic conditions abs is important but not impossible to live on the CBR .I changed my brake lines to steel braided ones which my uncle got me from Thailand. And boy it makes a whole lot of difference on the feel of front brakes. I will strongly advice you to upgrade your brake lines to quality steel braided ones. Also ive heard the 390 brake calipers is a direct for for the CBR , not sure how true, I'm just speculating and enquiring. Also why am I not able to see a lot of posts... Can any mods can tell me why?
                    I agree with you buddy it's really not that bad but I've locked up my rear wheel twice now so that made me repent the decision. But the braking on the non ABS is not that bad compared to other bikes. Yeah steel braided lines are what I will be going for next. Still under warranty so can't do anything anytime soon ;P [emoji14]

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Strange incident:
                      I started from Chennai to Bangalore yesterday, was pretty bummed out that i couldn't cozy up at home and wait the storm out. Lazily headed over to the highway at 6:30 pm and maintained ~80kmph since i had a lot of time to kill. Filled up at porur, and had 2 bars left when I reached Domlur (Bangalore). So that translates to 42+Kmpl! My bike usually returns 35kmpl on 100kph+

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                        Well, that isn't really strange. The CBR fi gives out good mileage if you go easy on the throttle. Infact, I'm waiting for my chain sprocket to wear out before trying another mileage test. I've gotten consistently good mileage on the mileage test every year since I bought the bike :

                        48 kmpl on Honda Throttle, normal fuel

                        49.8 kmpl on Honda Throttle, normal fuel

                        43 kmpl on Castrol 15w40, normal fuel

                        42 kmpl on Honda Throttle with Speed 93 fuel.


                        All the above tests were on ~40 psi Contigos, tank to tank method of calculation.
                        What oil do you use and what is your current odo reading?

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
                          Strange incident:
                          I started from Chennai to Bangalore yesterday, was pretty bummed out that i couldn't cozy up at home and wait the storm out. Lazily headed over to the highway at 6:30 pm and maintained ~80kmph since i had a lot of time to kill. Filled up at porur, and had 2 bars left when I reached Domlur (Bangalore). So that translates to 42+Kmpl! My bike usually returns 35kmpl on 100kph+
                          Mine returned 43kmpl yesterday too! Highway riding at 85-90kph with short bursts upto 122kmph.

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by leech View Post
                            Well, that isn't really strange. The CBR fi gives out good mileage if you go easy on the throttle. Infact, I'm waiting for my chain sprocket to wear out before trying another mileage test. I've gotten consistently good mileage on the mileage test every year since I bought the bike :

                            48 kmpl on Honda Throttle, normal fuel

                            49.8 kmpl on Honda Throttle, normal fuel

                            43 kmpl on Castrol 15w40, normal fuel

                            42 kmpl on Honda Throttle with Speed 93 fuel.


                            All the above tests were on ~40 psi Contigos, tank to tank method of calculation.
                            What oil do you use and what is your current odo reading?
                            Using Shell FS. Odo reading 70k+

                            Air filter needs replacement and so does the oil. Chain slack is a bit above stock, need to tighten it.

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Seeing such no's makes me jealous. Am getting 24-25kmpl these days

                              Just crossed 18k kms. Using Motul 300V 10W40
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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                                Seeing such no's makes me jealous. Am getting 24-25kmpl these days

                                Just crossed 18k kms. Using Motul 300V 10W40
                                Ride it between 70 to 100 kmph on highways and you will also get similar 40+ kmpl figures.

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