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**Deathwing** · 03-01-2017, 07:14 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Hello, Zaid, there have been numerous articles regarding non ABS to ABS setup. Just to refresh my memory and folks kindly chime in if there is any mismatch. The non-ABS one can have its brake pads directly swapped from the 220 for the rear. Secondly, even the steel braided line from the Pulsar 220 and Duke 200 can be used on the CBR as the Banjo diameter is almost the same, plus it's straight and not curved as the Duke 200. Secondly, when coming to ABS, I have yet to see anyone change their ABS to a steel braided HEL or Vortex or Spiegler. But, personally, I feel my CBR's front brakes offer very good feedback, it's progressive and isn't easy on the bite force, just the right amount. But again it's a personal opinion. I feel, Apache and R15s have some of the best brakes in Indian motorcycling scene in the 150 to 200cc category, the bite is just sharp and pin point precise.

What I would suggest is drain the fluid, replace the fluid with quality DOT 4 and it should definitely improve the braking. The non-ABS comes with DOT 3 and the ABS comes with DOT 4.

I have a few questions too. Anyone here have swapped the Pulsar 220s front brake pads to the CBR non ABS? Is it a direct fit or just the rear?

Cheers!
VJ

I have CBR 150 brake pads at the front and p220 at the rear running for a good 10k km plus now, not showing too much wear but may change the front in a few thousand kms or sooner, rear has been running for a good bit 12k km n going strong, use very little of my rear brake tho.

**sanjaynk15** · 03-01-2017, 08:10 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Hi guys!
Changed the rear brake pads to p220 ones today. Odo at 8780kms. The old pads had worn out so bad that the metal underneath was visible![emoji43] Planning to change the front pads within a few days. Does the p220 front disk pad fit? Or will I have to go for Honda itself?

Attaching a picture of the old pads.

**Wilson4willy** · 03-01-2017, 10:50 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View Post

Hi guys!
Changed the rear brake pads to p220 ones today. Odo at 8780kms. The old pads had worn out so bad that the metal underneath was visible![emoji43] Planning to change the front pads within a few days. Does the p220 front disk pad fit? Or will I have to go for Honda itself?

Attaching a picture of the old pads.

Sir, I must say that you abused your m/c real bad(apologies). One should/must check brake pads regularly because brakes are life savers, i guess your rear disc rotor might have worn out because of this over use. It would cost around 1-1.2 i guess. Do check the the front pads asap and yes front rotor costs a bomb(3.5k). And for front pads there is no such cheap suppliment.

**sanjaynk15** · 03-01-2017, 11:07 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Wilson4willy View Post

Sir, I must say that you abused your m/c real bad(apologies). One should/must check brake pads regularly because brakes are life savers, i guess your rear disc rotor might have worn out because of this over use. It would cost around 1-1.2 i guess. Do check the the front pads asap and yes front rotor costs a bomb(3.5k). And for front pads there is no such cheap suppliment.

Hi buddy! Yes the rear rotor has some grooves due to this. I will be changing both the rotor and the pads next time( when these new pads wear out). The front still has some life left but anyways I'll be changing the front pads soon. It's just that I thought the pads won't wear out so soon[emoji53] I will keep this in mind and change it well before..
Thanks mate!

**bondarun** · 03-02-2017, 12:17 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Bike got Registered today and will be getting my Bike tomorrow with number..
So excited

btw i checked my bike on monday and found grain like leather peal off in the front seat..
what should i do? should i ask them to Replace it or?

At that time the Manager was not Present so was not able to discuss about it to him.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 03-02-2017, 01:18 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by bondarun View Post

Bike got Registered today and will be getting my Bike tomorrow with number..
So excited

btw i checked my bike on monday and found grain like leather peal off in the front seat..
what should i do? should i ask them to Replace it or?

At that time the Manager was not Present so was not able to discuss about it to him.

Grain like leather peeling off can indicate your seat may be ripped. Check if the seat is ripped in the first place or a small hole, all these can happen during transit or mishandling during transport. A picture would have sufficed though.
[MENTION=76203]sanjaynk15[/MENTION], as Deathwing said, you can perhaps CBR 150s pads. Now, I am not sure what the price of the 150's are. If they are cheaper than the 250s I would say go ahead.

Cheers!
VJ

**leech** · 03-02-2017, 01:48 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

The pulsar 220 rear brake pads are as good as OEM in braking effect. The pair I use is nearing 10000 kms, with heavy use. I stomp the rear brake in predictable stops, until the rear wheel fishtails.

Deathwing uses duplicate cbr150 pads which cost around ₹200-300, idk. How's the pads doing? Do they cause premature wear of the rotor?

**bala13** · 03-02-2017, 02:11 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by leech View Post

The pulsar 220 rear brake pads are as good as OEM in braking effect. The pair I use is nearing 10000 kms, with heavy use. I stomp the rear brake in predictable stops, until the rear wheel fishtails.

Deathwing uses duplicate cbr150 pads which cost around ₹200-300, idk. How's the pads doing? Do they cause premature wear of the rotor?

Cbr150's front brake pads cost 450rs

**B7ACKTHORN** · 03-02-2017, 02:36 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by bala13 View Post

Cbr150's front brake pads cost 450rs

Originally posted by leech View Post

The pulsar 220 rear brake pads are as good as OEM in braking effect. The pair I use is nearing 10000 kms, with heavy use. I stomp the rear brake in predictable stops, until the rear wheel fishtails.

Deathwing uses duplicate cbr150 pads which cost around ₹200-300, idk. How's the pads doing? Do they cause premature wear of the rotor?

IIRC somebody posted a picture of the cheaper version of the brake pads, yesteryear. Now, I am not sure which forum it was CBR 150 or 250 where they posted a couple of photos, stating they sourced cheap brake pads for their bikes in Chennai. Am I ringing the bells correctly?

Cheers!
VJ

**Zaid77** · 03-02-2017, 02:37 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Iam_Hoodi_CBR View Post

If you have followed this thread, many have reported that pulsar's brake line is a direct replacement for front and found it to be effective compared to the stock ones.

You can browse through this thread for other details.

Ram

Thank you Ram for the Direct on point reply & the other knowledge share [emoji39]

Originally posted by bondarun View Post

As along as the Banjo bolt is 10mm any brake line will fit in..

RS 220F duke rear will fit in perfect with CBR..

But for ABS variant i think it has two brake lines on the Caliper...

Yes i always wondered if pulsar's brake line could fit as they visually looked very similar to the ones in CBR.
CBR250 ABS does have 2 brake lines upfront for the combi-braking i think. Would that make any difference in changing them to steel braided ones ?

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Hello, Zaid, there have been numerous articles regarding non ABS to ABS setup. Just to refresh my memory and folks kindly chime in if there is any mismatch. The non-ABS one can have its brake pads directly swapped from the 220 for the rear. Secondly, even the steel braided line from the Pulsar 220 and Duke 200 can be used on the CBR as the Banjo diameter is almost the same, plus it's straight and not curved as the Duke 200. Secondly, when coming to ABS, I have yet to see anyone change their ABS to a steel braided HEL or Vortex or Spiegler. But, personally, I feel my CBR's front brakes offer very good feedback.

What I would suggest is drain the fluid, replace the fluid with quality DOT 4 and it should definitely improve the braking. The non-ABS comes with DOT 3 and the ABS comes with DOT 4.

Cheers!
VJ

Hello Sir,

Yes as i said it's just me who feels that the brakes don't offer a good bite, probably because most of my mates have KTM and after riding their bikes, the initial bite and the confidence i get is something my cbr lacks.

Coming back to steel braided lines, you said you're yet to see the ABS version with the Steel braided lines from HEL or so. Does that mean its not a good idea to change my rubber ones with the OEM KTM steel lines ? & Yes around 6 months back i did my brake bleeding and I've put DOT 4 as much as i can remember.

Sorry for all the noob questions ive been asking lately, its just i don't wanna screw up anything. [emoji28]

Thank you everyone for all the information, i will try to go tomorrow or the day after to check on the price for the steel lines from KTM & Bajaj, if i find them in my budget then i will definitely look forward into it.

-Zaid [emoji111]

**bondarun** · 03-02-2017, 01:25 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

On changing brake lines on my NS i was spectacle on whether brake line from Aliexpress or eBay will suit my NS,
Then after talking with my Mech, he told me tat, any brake line which has 10mm banjo bolt will suit and will work..
Even if the end are slight tilted or at any angle..

For CBR, i suggest ppl to use RS front / rear brake line..

RS is a tall bike, so the brake line will be enough for our CBR..

i used P220 brake line on my NS and it was tight fit.. only little play was there..

**nomad_sachin** · 03-02-2017, 03:54 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Guys, my bike had a crash yesterday night.

It's windshield, front mudguard and right side fairing panel has cracked and the rear brake lever is bent. Front disc is a bit jammed because of which the disc rotor is getting hot. Muffler/shield over exhaust is scratched and bent at places.
Can somebody give me an idea of how much these parts cost?
Also kindly guide me as to how these parts can be claimed under insurance.

**Deathwing** · 03-02-2017, 07:39 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by leech View Post

The pulsar 220 rear brake pads are as good as OEM in braking effect. The pair I use is nearing 10000 kms, with heavy use. I stomp the rear brake in predictable stops, until the rear wheel fishtails.

Deathwing uses duplicate cbr150 pads which cost around ₹200-300, idk. How's the pads doing? Do they cause premature wear of the rotor?

I asked the svc and another private service center to check the wear of my pads, the Honda svc guy was like life is Still there, I only used the 150 cause it was cheaper and same dimensions and size on my non abs CBR, will visit a mech n check again, maybe use 250 brake pads from the svc itself, but I had a cash crunch that time some 5-6 months back but now I'll check again either ways n decide. The funniest part was the other friend's private svc mech was like sir don't use like other brake pads when I thought my front was gone, but it had life it was still the 150 pads, he didn't know I was changing from 150 to 150, but will check my rotor and front n rear brake pads n let you guys know the verdict. I was going to go back to the stock 250 pads from the svc but the mech was like no need to change , in October n November when I went two times after my crash for chain sprocket change and just service without oil change, and rear shock and put back a heat shield on the exhaust after a bit.

**bondarun** · 03-02-2017, 11:54 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

So finally the day has come.. oh boy what a machine..

6yrs in market still un-beaten.. One of the best bike i have ridden..

Bike looks big and bold while riding.. does not feel like a 250cc bike

New decal work has good Road Presence

Real head turner

only cons with this bike is that rear brake has zero bite, i mean ZERO bite.
Front has okish feel.. feels as same as my NS brake..

The bike seat were bit torn in one side and mirrors wer scratched..
Asked the incharge to change it and he did it with zero questions asked..

Totally happy with it.. Worth the wait

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**mathewkakkassery** · 03-03-2017, 01:17 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by bondarun View Post

So finally the day has come.. oh boy what a machine..

6yrs in market still un-beaten.. One of the best bike i have ridden..
Bike looks big and bold while riding.. does not feel like a 250cc bike

New decal work has good Road Presence

Real head turner

only cons with this bike is that rear brake has zero bite, i mean ZERO bite.
Front has okish feel.. feels as same as my NS brake..
The bike seat were bit torn in one side and mirrors wer scratched..
Asked the incharge to change it and he did it with zero questions asked..
Totally happy with it.. Worth the wait

Congratulations....
Waiting for the pics of ur new gf [emoji7]

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