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**s1d** · 04-19-2018, 08:27 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by D.j View Post

My bike is 2017 lot March and so far I have covered 15000kms .
All service on time and oil change at every 3k kms , major work is shim clearance check and adjusted at 11500kms , I insisted the mechanic to open and check foe clearances as they were reluctant about it .
Two reasons I asked for it , One - it is never checked since day 1 .
2nd - I was kind of hearing some noise which is not normal for the bike .
And found it to be increased by 3-5 mm
After that , whever I start the bike in morning rpm needle fluactuate say in a range of 200-300rpm , so I went to SVC and asked if this is indeed a problem , they told me that if fluctuations are more than 500rpm then it is a problem , I asked them for injector cleaning they said not required for this bike .
SVC is Ganpati Honda at sector 14 Gurugram.
Air filter is good I replaced it at 12k kms .
I will push for throttle Body cleaning , ECU remap and Injector cleaning , though I know it is hard and we have to really push the SVC people to make them work on problems .
Thanks for the pointers [emoji5][emoji106]
Also can you give me some brief about ECU remap , how it is done , will I loose the Odo counter post that ?
Also I am planning a Ladakh trip in June , so I will go to Malwa Honda this time as I don't trust the current SVC for a through inspection.

when you force them monkeys to do some service work like valve clearance check, especially when you don't understand the issue or don't face an issue it could end being worse.. causing problems that weren't there in the first place.
ecu remap ? for what ? don't even mention this to the svc, they will be

!! it really is not required.
just ask them to connect their diag tool and run a check for any error codes. And good luck with injector cleaning, pretty sure these guys won't have the right equipment for it. Normally 15k is too early for injector cleaning or tb cleaning, unless maybe you have been running shitty fuel.
Also check the ignition coil/spark plug cable & cap. clean and put them back together.
Usually on bikes with auto choke or ecu, on cold starts sometimes the idle is a little higher by 200-300rpm which should drop down to normal after a minute or so once the engine is warmed up.

Originally posted by Siddhanth Paul View Post

Nopes. It's just situated below the mobile holding unit

better put in a switch, or maybe connect it via the main ignition circuit. Or the parking light circuit, so that way you don't need to install an additional switch, and can actually 'switch' it on/off.

**D.j** · 04-20-2018, 12:07 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by alliwanted View Post

Ecu remapping, I am not sure as I haven't done on my bike but it might help. But keep it as a last choice, don't force for that.
- I went to the SVC and told about the ECU remap thing , No idea how to do that
Fuel injector & throttle body cleaning can be done easily and you can force for that. Use Wurth injector cleaner, they are very good.
- Fuel injector SVC is ready to do that , throttle body cleaning , he there is not much in throttle body cleaning , anyways I'll be visiting Other SVC for the FI Cleaning as I don't see the required machine .
Regarding rpm fluctuation, on cold start up it will go to 2K rpm and then settle down to 1.5K rpm (idle rpm) and some time it will go below also, in case of that just wait for it to settle down at idle rpm. And that is normal. Give proper time for your bike to warm up spread engine oil to all necessary components to be lubricated. Don't practice to start bike and move on the go. Let it achieve idle temperature (i.e. Two bars on temp. And then ride for first few kms normally and then push it.) It will surely help in long run.
- I know the RPM rising to a specific RPM in the morning as it has temp sensor , but what I was saying is it fluctuates between 2000 -1700 , 2000-1800 . Idly it should rise to a specific RPM then goes down and settle at 1400-1500 RPM , however , it should fluctuate between RPM ranges . I usually wait till the RPM Needle settles at 1500 RPM , after that I ride slow till the time the bike is not in optimum temp range.

Find trusted mechanic in your area or try throttle shrolle, Delhi-gurgaon. You can ask in Delhi-gurgaon G2G thread regarding good mechanics.
- Is it Throttle -Shrottle ? It seems to be a bikers cafe ? I'll try to find the thread , thanks Before going to Ladakh trip, spend some time and clean your entire bike and lube & top up every liquid required to be rest assured. Also carry extra clutch cable with you. Spray wd40 on each lock set, all bolts, rust infected areas. - I will buy 2 cans of WD40 one to carry and one to cleaning the bike , electricals , locks, chain . Thanks for the advise , I am thinking of carrying few more parts : Accelerator cable A(Only A will do) & B , Chain Drive Guard, Few Bolts, Fuses .

Atleast with cbr 250r you don't have to take serious tension about reliability, gizmo's dazzling in middle of nowhere, parts breaking up or any other sort of problems. Only thing I think will matter is seat and riding position and fuel tank. Other than that the power delivery and response is enough and stable for a trip to ladakh. I am also planning a trip but later next year.
Fuel Tank is major concern as I normally see a tank range of 300-350 Kms with a Pillion on straight Highways.

My thoughts inline , thanks for your suggestions [MENTION=44155]alliwanted[/MENTION]

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Originally posted by s1d View Post

when you force them monkeys to do some service work like valve clearance check, especially when you don't understand the issue or don't face an issue it could end being worse.. causing problems that weren't there in the first place.
- Exactly True as the person who is riding the motorcycle understand more about the His ride .
ecu remap ? for what ? don't even mention this to the svc, they will be

!! it really is not required.
just ask them to connect their diag tool and run a check for any error codes.
- Sure , I will surely tell them to check if everything is fine with no error codes . Next thing is they know how to use the diagnostic tool , I have heard good reviews about Malwa Honda , Okhla will try my luck there .
And good luck with injector cleaning, pretty sure these guys won't have the right equipment for it. Normally 15k is too early for injector cleaning or tb cleaning, unless maybe you have been running shitty fuel.
- I have done injector Cleaning on R15 at 25k Kms and they were insisting me to do at 12k RPM . I usually fill at the same petrol bunk and add System-G or Addon-P every alternate fill. Any idea what is the cost involved for this job?
Also check the ignition coil/spark plug cable & cap. clean and put them back together.
- That is one more thing to be checked thanks for the pointer

Usually on bikes with auto choke or ecu, on cold starts sometimes the idle is a little higher by 200-300rpm which should drop down to normal after a minute or so once the engine is warmed up.
- I understand this concept , while riding Pulsar 220 , R15V2 and now CBR250 , but my point was fluctuation of RPM needle by 200-300 , the Fluctuation is not too much to be worried , So I am a little bit cool . However, this is still a problem .

Thanks for the advice [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION] highly appreciate every bit .
I am thinking of installing Mobile charger to battery , however I am thinking of installing a Fuse circuit and a Switch as well . I don't want to mess with the wiring and cuts .
Will it be fine ?

**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-20-2018, 12:22 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by hgps View Post

Guys,

Please listen to this engine noise (taken from 3-4 ft distance. I have given the bike to service center to rectify this noise and they have estimated 10k "PLUS" amount. Said timing chain, tensioner and cylinder head is needed to be reworked (rocker arm adjustment). They said shim replacement isn't required.

Am i being duped here? because i though that noise is coming from loose valves or something.

My bike is 2.5 years old with 30,275 km on odo.

sound file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bFq...ew?usp=sharing

If this is your first "valve train service" i.e. replacing your shims and CCT, now is the right time to do so. Since, you've crossed 31k plus kays, it's advisable to get your CCT and shims inspected/replaced. Though the cam chain itself can last long, if one of the component is off slack, it can easily take others along with it, albeit slowly. It's advisable to change the CCT, timing chain and get the clearances checked all in one go, so that there aren't any "Gosh, why didn't I change that at at time" revelations later on in the ownership. Keep your observations jotted.

Originally posted by D.j View Post

I am thinking of installing Mobile charger to battery , however I am thinking of installing a Fuse circuit and a Switch as well . I don't want to mess with the wiring and cuts .
Will it be fine ?

It's always advisable to install a mobile phone charger with fuse. A fuse reduces chances of electrical shorts on the bike's main circuity and isolates the charger, in case of excess amperage draw. To top it off, most chargers these days come with a switch, sometimes hidden near the USB port itself, they are small pinhead sized, that are on and off. Personally, I'd recommend BOLT charger, as I use one, they are extremely versatile, connects directly to battery, easy plug and play, no fuses required, plus works only when required, no amperage draw from battery unless absolutely warranted.

Nonetheless, Chinese knock-offs or quack products do warrant a fuse circuitry, a 5 AMP fuse would suffice.

Cheers!
VJ

**D.j** · 04-20-2018, 02:59 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

It's always advisable to install a mobile phone charger with fuse. A fuse reduces chances of electrical shorts on the bike's main circuity and isolates the charger, in case of excess amperage draw. To top it off, most chargers these days come with a switch, sometimes hidden near the USB port itself, they are small pinhead sized, that are on and off. Personally, I'd recommend BOLT charger, as I use one, they are extremely versatile, connects directly to battery, easy plug and play, no fuses required, plus works only when required, no amperage draw from battery unless absolutely warranted.

Nonetheless, Chinese knock-offs or quack products do warrant a fuse circuitry, a 5 AMP fuse would suffice.

Cheers!
VJ

Thanks for the advise V J , especially when it comes from seniors . I do like the bolt charger ,however this is little expensive for my wallet right now . Bought one from amazon . Accucharger costed 325rs.
I am searching for a cable with 5amp fuse , or will make it self .

**leech** · 04-20-2018, 08:07 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

[MENTION=49015]hgps[/MENTION] - I couldn't find any shim noise, it sounds like CCT problem to me. Does that noise always occur, or only on cold engine start?

**ahamedazar** · 04-20-2018, 01:20 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by leech View Post

Sad thing is when we buy with heart we have to sell with brain many years later. Especially when the vehicle isn't a classic and isn't going to be.

I have decided to wait and buy CBR250R. Expecting it to be available for delivery in 2 months. Can someone recommend a good dealer in Chennai whose after sales service is relatively good?

**s1d** · 04-20-2018, 02:25 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by D.j View Post

Thanks for the advice @s1d highly appreciate every bit .
I am thinking of installing Mobile charger to battery , however I am thinking of installing a Fuse circuit and a Switch as well . I don't want to mess with the wiring and cuts .
Will it be fine ?

The FI cleaning by Yamaha is mostly a revenue generator for them and so they have 'recommended' intervals. They use a basic setup to do the cleaning ( A more professional and through way is to use ultrasonic cleaning equipment, which most places won't have). If it was really compulsory at such shorter intervals then what about in the past (since this injector cleaner equipment was introduced by yam only around 3 yrs ago), did the r15's not require this earlier??
One needs to understand the ground reality before falling for such unnecessary (but not harmful) service of equipment.
Since you already use normal fuel and the additives, i suspect it might not be a clogged injector.

In your case I doubt it's the injector.. apart from the ignition coil/plug wire/cap, i would also suggest you make sure there is no air leak around the filter box/filter box to throttle body and throttle body to intake, i.e. make sure the connections are also air tight and secure.. if necessary just disassemble, inspect (replace part if req) and put them back together. And maybe get the fuel tank cleaned out and fuel pump inspected (usually has a sock type filter on the pump itself) and if the cbr has a fuel filter, replace that as well.

As for the mobile charger you can go ahead and wire it in with the ignition circuit or a separate circuit with switch and put a 5A fuse inline, no issues.. but avoid connecting it directly to the battery.

**Auto** · 04-20-2018, 04:22 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by ahamedazar View Post

I have decided to wait and buy CBR250R. Expecting it to be available for delivery in 2 months. Can someone recommend a good dealer in Chennai whose after sales service is relatively good?

Kun Honda in Adyar and Didar Honda in Egmore have been quite good, with separate bays for the CBR. But be prepared to stand in the que with the sea of Activa and Dio owners to give your bike for service. Best is to find a reliable and quality independent garage and maintain your bike there - with genuine spares from the Honda dealerships.

**leech** · 04-20-2018, 04:43 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by ahamedazar View Post

I have decided to wait and buy CBR250R. Expecting it to be available for delivery in 2 months. Can someone recommend a good dealer in Chennai whose after sales service is relatively good?

Didar Honda Egmore. Good service, but take an interest in what they are doing.

**Pavithranmt** · 04-21-2018, 01:25 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Guys one doubt. I changed my bikes oil in December with shell ultra fs. Now i am due to the next oil change. I bought two bottles when i changed the oil. Cbr requires only 1.5 ltrs , so the remaining oil is with me right now. So can i reuse the remaining oil for this oil change?

**D.j** · 04-21-2018, 01:29 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Pavithranmt View Post

Guys one doubt. I changed my bikes oil in December with shell ultra fs. Now i am due to the next oil change. I bought two bottles when i changed the oil. Cbr requires only 1.5 ltrs , so the remaining oil is with me right now. So can i reuse the remaining oil for this oil change?

Yes you can go ahead and use the old oil .
The only point is you have to use the same grade and engine oil from same vendor and all is good.

**Pavithranmt** · 04-22-2018, 06:39 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

What is the fork oil quantity of cbr, and the specs and preffered brand?

**Satyajit Samantray** · 04-22-2018, 06:44 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Pavithranmt View Post

What is the fork oil quantity of cbr, and the specs and preffered brand?

330ml per fork, honda recommends 10W grade oil.As far as brands are concerned, you can go for the one available in svc for 10w oil, if you want a bit stiffer setup go for motul 20w grade oil.And a word of caution, don't buy the motul from online markets like flipkart or amazon.Get it from a local shop.

**leech** · 04-22-2018, 06:49 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Satyajit Samantray View Post

330ml per fork, honda recommends 10W grade oil.As far as brands are concerned, you can go for the one available in svc for 10w oil, if you want a bit stiffer setup go for motul 20w grade oil.And a word of caution, don't buy the motul from online markets like flipkart or amazon.Get it from a local shop.

Why? Is the online one fake?

**Satyajit Samantray** · 04-22-2018, 06:54 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by leech View Post

Why? Is the online one fake?

Yes, they have been shipping fake ones now .I for one was a victim of the same.The packaging and the oil colour was different between the online one and the one that I got from an offline shop.

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