Re: Honda CBR 250R

Dear "friend" read the manual again, since you have taken great pains to take a photo and have demonstrated your exceptional ability, read the requirements that is needed [ I.e tools and skills] read the service manual of how the steel strainer is to be cleaned along with the replacement of the oil filter. Read of how giving the bike to the ASC gives protects you by giving you the ability to hold them accountable. Posting photos is an easy job I guess reading the post history of this thread and of how users including myself have suffered of using non oem parts and external service is difficult.

If it is too much for you to form the idea that external parts and service carry a significant risk on the operation and safety of the vehicle, while no doubt can be used in an emergency then go ahead do it, just make sure your life insurance is valid.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Haha i'm servicing my cbr on my own and I have covered 21k kms in 2 years man! Didnt need life insurance till now! There is a difference between external service and using non oem parts! You can buy oem spares from the svc and do it yourself! Just try to follow the manual and watch some videos. You will definitely learn it in a day! Come on man I am not telling you that you should not give your bike to svc, i am just trying to tell that it is better if you try to learn. Because no matter what you tell the svc guys they will do what they want and never do what you say. And as far as tools go i think you can afford to buy a few atleast for an oil change. Finally its your bike, your choice. Peace[emoji4]

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Quite an interesting discussion going on.
Regarding opting to drop the bike to ASC for every little detail, all it gives you is not peace of mind, but only a guarantee of accountability. You know whom to blame if things don't pan out.
OTOH, if you screw something by yourself while trying to tinker around (and thereby learning in the process), it gets difficult to put the blame on yourself.
Secondly, people 'assume' that ASC personnel use the correct tools for all tasks which need not be true always. They use more jugaad than one can imagine.
I've damaged my bike a few times while trying to work on it and none of those were irreparable.
One must read first and then attempt any DIY, even if it is chain maintenance. Doing any work without reading first is 'foolish'.

And with pure regards to all comments in the discussion above, I feel one can do the following by themselves:
1. Oil change
2. Oil filter change
3. Air filter replacement
4. Chain tightening
5. Chain maintenance
6. Lamps and bulbs maintenance

Once you're adept enough, you can try:
1. Spark plug change
2. Shims/valves adjustment
3. Sprocket replacement
4. Clutch cable maintenance
5. Accelerator cables maintenance
6. Fairing upkeep and maintenance
7. Brake lines bleeding
8. Pads and rotor maintenance

Then for people who really want to get their hands dirty, then can go ahead with:
1. Fuel pump maintenance
2. Injectors cleaning
3. Half engine work and clutch plates maintenance
4. Electricals troubleshooting and blah blah.

All parts are available OTC at Honda and if one wishes to (after all necessary homework done and with mind prepared that there can be a goof up while attempting to learn), one can almost avoid the SVC all the time. No hassles of taking appointments and then worrying if the work was done well, if the mech handled the bike well etc or not.


OTOH, ASC is there for one's comfort and 'probable' peace of mind. One can simply get the job done there as well. No issues with either approach.
But should the bike stop midway somewhere, one should know where to look and not get mad at the situation.

Cheers!

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Guys I think manan here has suffered a lot for no reason, thus in his mind the SVC is the only option. [MENTION=54284]Manan[/MENTION] how often do you check the engine oil level in your CBR?

Re: Honda CBR 250R

52419kM today. Rarely visited ASCs in all these years for repairs. Yes, I visit my trusted ASCs for spares.
Regarding tools, ASCs guys have worst tools here. Torque wrench? Forget it. I haven't seen it in any ASC here.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Does anyone own the new CBR? Is there any difference to the old one except the LED headlight?

Re: Honda CBR 250R

New one's got new stickers. Honda spent 4 years r&d just for the sticker design. Commendable, indeed.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Hahaha [emoji23][emoji23]
The reason I was asking is I don't seem to find a possible replacement for my P220+R15(I own both).
I don't want to go for a momentary happiness and struggle later.
I don't see any possible option too and not sure what's gonna come in future as well.
Honda CB300 will definitely try to outprice Duke 390 since Honda has this good habit of pricing their products really high.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

I'm in the same boat as you. Considering the R3, but, it's only 2.6 secs faster, and 35 kmph extra speed. In real world, I can overtake one sec quicker. Not much of an excuse to spend 4L on.

10 years from now, bored of the R3, I would be like, hey, I could have invested the money and got a Honda 650F 4 years later.

Thus, I'm just sitting on the CBR250. After all, more money= more bhp.

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You seem to be a fan of the ASC's, and almost every reply of yours recommends to only go to the svc. In a perfect world going to the ASC would be the best option.
with a little bit of reading the owners manual/workshop manual, basic automotive knowledge and a lot of common sense one can do small repairs, and/or get repairs done at the svc correctly.
if you simple trust the svc (i.e. assume they know how to do everything correctly or worse that they will do it even if they know how to) then in most cases you are in trouble. the asc these days simply do not have well trained mechanics, and even the ones who know how to do something properly simply do not do it and are mostly interested in only replacing parts and rushing thru service to complete as many bikes as possible (because they make money turning over more bikes and selling more spares)
Also a part of motorcycle (rather automobile) ownership experience (for enthusiasts) involves tinkering around with your vehicle/trying to understand more about it rather than robotically sending it in for service and hoping everything will be fine. It's like rushing to the doctor just because you bruised your knee or sneezed a couple of times.

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Hey man, am not saying it is 'bad' .. just that it ins't required as often as Yamaha claims it is required. You have to get your hands on the owners manual and workshop manual to understand better. Do not blindly go by what some chum on youtube has to say - A few of them are just BS like greasing variator rollers on scooters, installing new clutch plates without soaking them in oil, adjusting valves clearances by 'feel', over tightening bolts, running an engine without oil to drain the last bit of oil on the bullets and the list goes on... *don't assume that what you see online is all true*
Get your hands on the manuals and some authentic material by professionals and apply some common sense.. this will help you maintain/understand your motorcycle in a better way.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Fellas, take it easy. Let's not forget the clause, to each his own. For some, it's easy to get their hands dirty and are hands-on DIY types. For some, it's peace of mind, risk-averse and saves them for headache to invest in tools, the reasons can go on and on for both the sides of the spectrum. [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION], it's easier for the hands-on types to do almost anything, that he's confident of, the list doesn't end there. Some people's learning curve is totally different from thy learning curve, well that's what makes us different in the end right.

Let people follow their decisions based on their experience. Just because a guy doesn't have the right tool doesn't mean a shoddy work, or just because he/she has a fancy tool doesn't make them an expert. It takes due diligence coupled with practical hands-on experience for anyone to be good at what they are, with or without the tools.

Well, hope I didn't averse anyone's feelings here.

Take it easy!

Cheers!
VJ

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Yes , absolutely true whatever you said .
I also get involved with whatever I am doing with My stead or if its SVC saying something , what I usually do is take suggestion from SVC on what they are suggesting and then say no at first if it seems , unnecessary, expensive or harmful .
Then I do some research on my own on the procedures, and why the thing is required .
And then finally I ask them to perform the task , under my observation.

As far as shop manual or service manual is concerned I am not getting a link to download it .

Re: Honda CBR 250R Instrument Cluster

The led backlight on instrument cluster for speedometer,fuelgage area is kaput. I tried fiddling and moving the wires around, and doesn't seem to be a lose connection. Plus there is a crack glassed area, thus it could be water damage. But everything works fine except for the led backlight around the said area. Service guy said the whole unit will need to be replaced and would cost about 6-7k (plus it was out of stock).

Now I am considering aftermarket instrument cluster, and checked out a few on aliexpress. Is it good idea to go with aftermarket one? Considering the original on would be over budget, and aftermarket can do the job. Since At night rides I can't see speeds/fuel, etc and also as a precaution to further water damage.

Also anything I (or local mechs) need to consider during its installation.

Re: Honda CBR 250R Instrument Cluster

First off though,



And yes the console chunk costs 6k IIRC, and I'd suggest you to take it a technician who deals specifically with automobile electronics. These LEDs require correct positioning and a steady hand. Screw up and the whole unit is up for a toss.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Has anyone tried to install a slipper clutch on their respective bike? It helps In those down shifts and throttle blips aye?