Guys anyone using steel braided brake hose from pulsar 220 on their cbr? If yes, then does it fit perfectly? I am worried about the length of the hose. I was planning to upgrade from the stock rubber hose to the ss one from 220, mine is a non-abs variant.
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I'd suggest you try NS200's brake line. The NS's brake lines are longer and not curved, also the banjo bolt diameter remains the same. Considering the 220, the NS would give you more length to play with.Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View PostGuys anyone using steel braided brake hose from pulsar 220 on their cbr? If yes, then does it fit perfectly? I am worried about the length of the hose. I was planning to upgrade from the stock rubber hose to the ss one from 220, mine is a non-abs variant.
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Brake lines are universal.Originally posted by sanjaynk15 View PostGuys anyone using steel braided brake hose from pulsar 220 on their cbr? If yes, then does it fit perfectly? I am worried about the length of the hose. I was planning to upgrade from the stock rubber hose to the ss one from 220, mine is a non-abs variant.
I'd suggest you measure your stock line and purchase one of the adequate length from the following link;
Amazon India: Generic 500mm-1200mm Motorcycle Scooter Bikes Braided Steel Brake Clutch Oil Hose Line Pipe - blue, 60cm
Personally I don't find much of a difference between standard and steel braided lines, reason for my statement being that I've shifted from steel braided to regular lines on my P220 and there was no noticeable difference, the bite felt better which was due to using a brand new line, nothing else.
Unless you're track riding and go through brake pads like condoms then I'd suggest you stick with the stock line, if you're experiencing lack of feel then it is time to replace your line. Cheers.
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[MENTION=54284]Manan[/MENTION] - sorry for late reply. But I've been using motul 7100 10W40 with k&n oil filter. And my bike runs perfectly. No such issues due to 10w 40. Also there are many of others who use either motul or shell 10w40 instead of 10w30.
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These are basically Track Tyres.Originally posted by Deathwing View PostAnybody using or used these tyres? Just asking my mpsrs still have about half life left but I can keep this as a spare when my mpsrs completely lose grip or start puncturing very often, I haven't purchased these tyres, can get a set for my bike for free of needed, still I'm very happy with Michelin, 0 accidents since switching from mrf. [ATTACH]239947[/ATTACH]
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Hi. I used to experience the same thing earlier. There are few things to get checked. Clean throttle body, air filter.Originally posted by D.j View PostMy bike is 2017 lot March and so far I have covered 15000kms .
All service on time and oil change at every 3k kms , major work is shim clearance check and adjusted at 11500kms , I insisted the mechanic to open and check foe clearances as they were reluctant about it .
Two reasons I asked for it , One - it is never checked since day 1 .
2nd - I was kind of hearing some noise which is not normal for the bike .
And found it to be increased by 3-5 mm
After that , whever I start the bike in morning rpm needle fluactuate say in a range of 200-300rpm , so I went to SVC and asked if this is indeed a problem , they told me that if fluctuations are more than 500rpm then it is a problem , I asked them for injector cleaning they said not required for this bike .
SVC is Ganpati Honda at sector 14 Gurugram.
Air filter is good I replaced it at 12k kms .
I will push for throttle Body cleaning , ECU remap and Injector cleaning , though I know it is hard and we have to really push the SVC people to make them work on problems .
Thanks for the pointers [emoji5][emoji106]
Also can you give me some brief about ECU remap , how it is done , will I loose the Odo counter post that ?
Also I am planning a Ladakh trip in June , so I will go to Malwa Honda this time as I don't trust the current SVC for a through inspection.
And try to rev match while downshifting. Learning to rev match while down shifting may take some time to learn. This should help you.
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Thanks Ave2592 , i am surely inclined to do the job of throttle body cleaning and since it is very dusty here in gurgaon .Originally posted by Ave2592 View PostHi. I used to experience the same thing earlier. There are few things to get checked. Clean throttle body, air filter.
And try to rev match while downshifting. Learning to rev match while down shifting may take some time to learn. This should help you.
Any idea what is the cost involved?
Also i always do rev matching while dowbshifting .>>>>Beware of Zombies<<<<
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Recently switched to this tyre . I can say this is only for corner cravers . Just completed approx 100 kms on them now .Originally posted by Ave2592 View PostThese are basically Track Tyres.
They are more confidence inspiring on corners .
One thing i see is that the 140 section tyre looks small width wise on cbr . May be because of its round profile .
I would like to hear how the 150 section tyre looks and feel on cbr250r .
One more thing the 140 section tyre is a R series tyre whuch means Radialano , however the old series is still ZR .
For example
140/70/R17 66H
150/60/ZR17 - these are W rated tyres .
Even the front comes in two forms .
R and ZR .
The ZR series has a ROSSO II embossed on tyre edge .
P.S All information about R and ZR is from cbr 250 international forums.>>>>Beware of Zombies<<<<
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Big difference if your on the non abs cbr, abs version the braking is spot on, non abs leaves a bit to be desired soo I swapped mine with steel braided ones from Thailand.Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostBrake lines are universal.
I'd suggest you measure your stock line and purchase one of the adequate length from the following link;
Amazon India: Generic 500mm-1200mm Motorcycle Scooter Bikes Braided Steel Brake Clutch Oil Hose Line Pipe - blue, 60cm
Personally I don't find much of a difference between standard and steel braided lines, reason for my statement being that I've shifted from steel braided to regular lines on my P220 and there was no noticeable difference, the bite felt better which was due to using a brand new line, nothing else.
Unless you're track riding and go through brake pads like condoms then I'd suggest you stick with the stock line, if you're experiencing lack of feel then it is time to replace your line. Cheers.
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150 can be used but I would rather only use for the track, the Honda one make cbrs run of mrf rev c1 and F1 respectively, 150/60 profile, I feel its better suited for the track the 140/70 is better for our daily use and touring purposes.Originally posted by D.j View PostRecently switched to this tyre . I can say this is only for corner cravers . Just completed approx 100 kms on them now .
They are more confidence inspiring on corners .
One thing i see is that the 140 section tyre looks small width wise on cbr . May be because of its round profile .
I would like to hear how the 150 section tyre looks and feel on cbr250r .
One more thing the 140 section tyre is a R series tyre whuch means Radialano , however the old series is still ZR .
For example
140/70/R17 66H
150/60/ZR17 - these are W rated tyres .
Even the front comes in two forms .
R and ZR .
The ZR series has a ROSSO II embossed on tyre edge .
P.S All information about R and ZR is from cbr 250 international forums.
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There is a world of difference between the two systems.Originally posted by Deathwing View PostBig difference if your on the non abs cbr, abs version the braking is spot on, non abs leaves a bit to be desired soo I swapped mine with steel braided ones from Thailand.
The one on the ABS variant is supplied by Nissin and irrespective of ABS Nissin hardware is known to outshine when it comes to performance and feedback.
The STD variant comes with Bybre hardware which doesn’t compare well.
For comparison you could take the R15 and P220, the R15’a front Nissin assembly roughly costs 12k where as the P220’s front Bybre assembly costs under 3k.
As for your specific case the only reasonable explanation would be that you’re stock lines were not up to the mark hence the difference noticed when changed. Stock lines are required to be changed once in 10k km’s for optimal performance.
The brake lines have a minimal impact on normal braking operations as long as they’re in good working order, I’m no expert hence I’ll let the experts speak for themselves.
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2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
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I never been to track , but 140 is also very round profile and the bikes just tips with little steering input and it hold the line on a turn pretty good .Originally posted by Deathwing View Post150 can be used but I would rather only use for the track, the Honda one make cbrs run of mrf rev c1 and F1 respectively, 150/60 profile, I feel its better suited for the track the 140/70 is better for our daily use and touring purposes.
The reason I bought this one was i needed grip, feedback during cornering and radial tyre in stock size was my preference .
Bought the pair for 5500 bucks, almost equivalent to Mrf radials .
Once I have budget I'll opt for MPSR . Stock size .>>>>Beware of Zombies<<<<
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Mpsrs I would highly suggest for daily use and touring, it's a very long lasting tyre, and I'm quite pleased with the grip coming from mrfs, the pirellli is obviously much stickier but more puncture prone. I had my first puncture in 12k km on my mpsrs and that too a big nail went in but didn't cause too much damage as much as it could have for a softer compound, I feel like my tyres are easily good for another 10-15k kms, pirelllis should run out by 12-15k kms. Stick to the stock size, if you want a slightly bigger profile, you can go for 150/60 but correct me if I'm wrong, there will be a slight speedo error, I've used a gixxer 140/60 temporarily when my stock conti gos kept puncturing Soo I thought I would use it and the bike was lighter but I wasn't too happy with the Corner ability at all, similarly I rode a r3 with a 150 section and the handling and feedback of the rear tyre was honestly crap.Originally posted by D.j View PostI never been to track , but 140 is also very round profile and the bikes just tips with little steering input and it hold the line on a turn pretty good .
The reason I bought this one was i needed grip, feedback during cornering and radial tyre in stock size was my preference .
Bought the pair for 5500 bucks, almost equivalent to Mrf radials .
Once I have budget I'll opt for MPSR . Stock size .
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I'm talking from experience, as you've mentioned the abs nissin brake systems are leaps and bounds above the standard bybre and has a higher price point for the components, I've felt a better feel with steel braided then the rubber hose, which I felt got spongy very fast.Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostThere is a world of difference between the two systems.
The one on the ABS variant is supplied by Nissin and irrespective of ABS Nissin hardware is known to outshine when it comes to performance and feedback.
The STD variant comes with Bybre hardware which doesn’t compare well.
For comparison you could take the R15 and P220, the R15’a front Nissin assembly roughly costs 12k where as the P220’s front Bybre assembly costs under 3k.
As for your specific case the only reasonable explanation would be that you’re stock lines were not up to the mark hence the difference noticed when changed. Stock lines are required to be changed once in 10k km’s for optimal performance.
The brake lines have a minimal impact on normal braking operations as long as they’re in good working order, I’m no expert hence I’ll let the experts speak for themselves.
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Definately MPSR is a highly recommend tyres for our stead but it is hard to find in stock size in offline market only rear tyre .Originally posted by Deathwing View PostMpsrs I would highly suggest for daily use and touring, it's a very long lasting tyre, and I'm quite pleased with the grip coming from mrfs, the pirellli is obviously much stickier but more puncture prone. I had my first puncture in 12k km on my mpsrs and that too a big nail went in but didn't cause too much damage as much as it could have for a softer compound, I feel like my tyres are easily good for another 10-15k kms, pirelllis should run out by 12-15k kms. Stick to the stock size, if you want a slightly bigger profile, you can go for 150/60 but correct me if I'm wrong, there will be a slight speedo error, I've used a gixxer 140/60 temporarily when my stock conti gos kept puncturing Soo I thought I would use it and the bike was lighter but I wasn't too happy with the Corner ability at all, similarly I rode a r3 with a 150 section and the handling and feedback of the rear tyre was honestly crap.
Yeah true there will be some speedo error it can be less speed on speedo and actual speed is more or Vice versa , but I have not got a definate answer as CBR takes speed from sensor and not from tyres .
Many people opted for 150 section as not many options were available in 140 section in Radial tyres.
The MPSR pair is costing somewhere around 9200/- for a pair .>>>>Beware of Zombies<<<<
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