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  • #22696
    Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Hey all. I too am using xtra premium from Indane oil and until now I haven't felt any issues. My bike is just 10k + kms but then shouldn't premium fuels be actually saving our bikes life as they are also expensive to buy when compared to regular. I am getting an avg of 23- 25 but this time I was shocked to see getting around 40kmpl on city traffic with aggressive riding. Any input on this?

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    • #22697
      Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Ok from what I've diagnosed, it's a faulty fuel pump motor and not the actual fuel pump itself, I can't procure the part from the SVC as they are quoting 14000 which is the entire fuel pump set, will see if I can order it online and get it replaced.

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      • #22698
        Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
        Ok from what I've diagnosed, it's a faulty fuel pump motor and not the actual fuel pump itself, I can't procure the part from the SVC as they are quoting 14000 which is the entire fuel pump set, will see if I can order it online and get it replaced.
        Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
        Can someone gimme some insight on how long a braking unit lasts on the cbr, specifically the non abs bybre unit, my bike has run exactly 38000kms.
        Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
        Well no issues with the braking, just that my brake oil finished soo fast after filling half when it got empty, just a bit worrying, will check in a couple of days for leaks , my braking is totally fine. It's only my front, I hardly use the rear brakes. Just had my magnetic coil in my bike replaced today was charged 3160, attaching the pic of my coil , it was giving my starting issues earlier, still sort of is but that's down to battery life coming to an end.
        Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
        Ok guys looks like my bike problems pile on one after the other, after changing my magnetic coil and new battery, looks like the culprit was my fuel pump, it kinda baffles me cause I use mostly only premium fuel and never run on low fuel, looks like my luck has run out, now a new fuel pump would set me back a cool 12k, honestly I cannot afford that at the moment, will probably not be riding if I have to change it, I'm just curious, can the pump be removed and cleaned, or maybe a blocked injector is causing this, either way, I really feel letdown by the bike lately.
        From an analytical perspective. From what I fathom, one of your stator pole is burnt, which negatively affects the charging ability of the stator to the battery. Secondly, a failed stator can over time, take out your RR unit, which can cause all sort of electrical gremlins. Basically, the bike being DC, all juice to the loom are provided by the battery, the battery works over time to provide enough juice to the load on demand, but is not being charged enough. This causes voltage fluctuations and can negatively affect sensitive electronics such as fuel pump, ECU and what not.

        Probably this "could" have been the reason for the early demise of your fuel pump motor. But nonetheless, try DIDAR. Try your luck with any used markets, with a little bit of searching you probably can source one.

        Ivin outawz stays in Bangalore, let me know if you have trouble sourcing it, I can perhaps keep him apprised.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
        The girl said, 'NO!'


        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


        THE END

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        • #22699
          Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Well basically, my fuel pump does not like turn on properly like I can't hear it engaging properly, there is a very weak sound, another time, it primes properly and the bike turns on but then dies out. Whenever I switch on the engine killswitch the FI turning on isn't as loud as the time it properly turns on.

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          • #22700
            Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
            Well basically, my fuel pump does not like turn on properly like I can't hear it engaging properly, there is a very weak sound, another time, it primes properly and the bike turns on but then dies out. Whenever I switch on the engine killswitch the FI turning on isn't as loud as the time it properly turns on.
            It's a good idea to get your FI unit replaced or get it serviced from someone who is good at reconditioning FI units if you can. FI units, by all means are expensive proposition.

            Cheers!
            VJ
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


            THE END

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            • #22701
              Re: Honda CBR 250R

              There is no reason for my pump to go kaput soo fast, it's only been 38000kms, and I don't run on low fuel level for too long, I started using premium fuel last year, even a friend of mine who services bikes was like, there is no reason for my bike's pump to malfunction now, I suspect it's maybe an electrical fault or the pump's motor. Is it possible for the rectifier to cause these issues? You know what's ironic my bike just started again and I rode to a friend's garage to leave it there...
              Last edited by Deathwing; 11-28-2017, 09:33 PM.

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              • #22702
                Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by New guy View Post
                Vihaan Honda Service Center
                Plot No. 104, 105, MIDC, Wagle Estate, Rd Number 18, Neheru Nagar, Wagle Industrial Estate, Thane West, Thane, Maharashtra 400604
                022 6154 1111

                https://goo.gl/maps/m7UHBy2Bc7P2
                Got it, thank you, is there some reference that I have can use to break the ice faster? can I please get the mechanic's name? it can be over PM if you are uncomfortable on posting it on the public forum.

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                • #22703
                  Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by Manan View Post
                  Got it, thank you, is there some reference that I have can use to break the ice faster? can I please get the mechanic's name? it can be over PM if you are uncomfortable on posting it on the public forum.
                  Sent you a pm. Speak to the guy before you go there as he only takes a few bikes to work on in a week.
                  Mumbai - Bangalore Solo Ride

                  A Breath-Taking Ride (Literally)

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                  • #22704
                    Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                    There is no reason for my pump to go kaput soo fast, it's only been 38000kms, and I don't run on low fuel level for too long, I started using premium fuel last year, even a friend of mine who services bikes was like, there is no reason for my bike's pump to malfunction now, I suspect it's maybe an electrical fault or the pump's motor. Is it possible for the rectifier to cause these issues? You know what's ironic my bike just started again and I rode to a friend's garage to leave it there...
                    I don’t think we can conclusively say what’s causing the issue because we don’t have end to end info.

                    You have all the info now. You have additional sources to procure the faulty parts.
                    Try to find a good mech on FI system. Try to find the guy who has some time to spare, so he could check and fix. Get it fixed on weekdays so the mechs are a bit free and can work more patiently on your bike.
                    ATB bud.

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                    • #22705
                      Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      [MENTION=79821]Deathwing[/MENTION] - premium fuels have two things I don't like -

                      1) They clog the injectors, or the fuel filter, which makes the fuel pump work much harder, which could cause early failure

                      2) Since not many people use premium fuel, there is a high probability that the fuel sits in the fuel sump of the petrol bunk for extended periods, picking up sediments from it, as well as decomposing.


                      I've done 43kms, and just like the majority of CBR owners, I have no fuel pump problems as of now. I have run the bike dry twice, in the first year of ownership.

                      The stator coil burning out could cause problems in the RR unit, and the entire electrical system due to insufficient power.

                      There is a ninja 650 which faced stator coil failure at 56,000 kms. He always changed the oil on time, so it's hard to diagnose the reason why your pump failed, and others didn't.

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                      • #22706
                        Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by leech View Post
                        [MENTION=79821]Deathwing[/MENTION] - premium fuels have two things I don't like -

                        1) They clog the injectors, or the fuel filter, which makes the fuel pump work much harder, which could cause early failure

                        2) Since not many people use premium fuel, there is a high probability that the fuel sits in the fuel sump of the petrol bunk for extended periods, picking up sediments from it, as well as decomposing.


                        I've done 43kms, and just like the majority of CBR owners, I have no fuel pump problems as of now. I have run the bike dry twice, in the first year of ownership.

                        The stator coil burning out could cause problems in the RR unit, and the entire electrical system due to insufficient power.

                        There is a ninja 650 which faced stator coil failure at 56,000 kms. He always changed the oil on time, so it's hard to diagnose the reason why your pump failed, and others didn't.
                        I think I'll switch back to normal fuel, I went to leave my bike at my friend's garage and suddenly it starts in 1 crank, I switch off the FI n try again n crank it once it starts, no issues, it's really eating up my head this issue. One more thing is ok using normal fuel for the KTM twins as well? 200 and 390?

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                        • #22707
                          Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                          I think I'll switch back to normal fuel, I went to leave my bike at my friend's garage and suddenly it starts in 1 crank, I switch off the FI n try again n crank it once it starts, no issues, it's really eating up my head this issue.
                          Did you ever replace the fuel filter?

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                          • #22708
                            Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by leech View Post
                            Did you ever replace the fuel filter?
                            Yes I have, but a year or more ago. Basically my fuel pump doesn't like prime properly when it refuses to start, I know the sound n feel when the fuel pump is ready to start, cause you hear the noise and feel the proper vibration, but when it doesn't, it sounds weak but it does turn on, will see how the bike behaves the next few days and update, I just 3k on the coil and 2k on the battery,there is no way I can spend 14k on a new fuel pump and that too soo early, will check the fuel filter and injectors as you've mentioned.
                            Last edited by Deathwing; 11-28-2017, 11:06 PM.

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                            • #22709
                              Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Hi there,
                              does anyone happen to have pistons and seal set? for some reason local dealer doesn't have them in stock
                              and I have a sticky piston with a protuberance not returning properly, hence sticking my front wheel

                              Mine is a MC42 standard, btw
                              Im willing to take second hand and pay for shipping and all

                              I've tried searching on eBay but apparently US market got a Nissin standard 2-piston caliper on non-abs bikes, instead of Bybre.
                              I don't know if the nissin pistons will fit my Bybre caliper :/

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                              • #22710
                                Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by dietersanchez View Post
                                Hi there,
                                does anyone happen to have pistons and seal set? for some reason local dealer doesn't have them in stock
                                and I have a sticky piston with a protuberance not returning properly, hence sticking my front wheel

                                Mine is a MC42 standard, btw
                                Im willing to take second hand and pay for shipping and all

                                I've tried searching on eBay but apparently US market got a Nissin standard 2-piston caliper on non-abs bikes, instead of Bybre.
                                I don't know if the nissin pistons will fit my Bybre caliper :/
                                Go with your pistons and seal to a bajaj spare shop and try to match it with Pulsar RS200/NS200 part. High probability that it could match.
                                Ride, ride and ride.. But always do it responsibly..

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