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Hey thanks sidney.. Well give a call anytime. so when are we gonna have our drag race between your Ninja and my CBROriginally posted by sydney3110 View PostCongrats wilfred for your CBR! Came to your house yesterday expecting a test ride but you were not at home maybe you had gone to check the top speed of the bike
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Got my bike today !!
First observations:
1. Knocking below 2.5k rpm.
2. Engine is rev hungry
3. Suspension is not excellent as I expected (will have to check the settings)
4. Radiator fan spins on battery also (like in cars)
5. Wrist/palm/shoulder/back and left leg all paining after a 200km ride
6. Bike is made for high speeds, low speeds are really boring
7. Starter is super smooth and so is the engine
8. Low rpms = no power just like the R15
9. Brakes are super excellent
10. Engine was becoming very hot while riding in city, however the temp gauge never over 3 sticks (which is how it should be)
11. Handling is too good
12. Did not like the seating position (have to lean too much on the bike - but will get used to it soon)
13. Bike is very very very very very prone to scratches
14. The bike wants to just go faster and faster
No vibes, no sound at high rpms.
Bike does 6th gear - 4k rpm = 60kmph, 5k rpm = 80kmph, 7k rpm = 115kmph.
Did a couple of bursts of 115kmph. 6th gear 40kmph = knocking when you pull the throttle
Went to Nandi hills..... the ride was good....
And ya one more thing.... the headlights are too good.... very good spread and better intensity than P220's headlamps (I have a P220 Fi.. checked side by side).
Comparing the bike to the P220 - CBR feels less torquey, maybe because the P220 has raw power and CBR feels processed/refined.
Will be getting the oil changed tomorrow at 200km on the odo.Last edited by chetanpulsar; 05-26-2011, 01:01 AM.Chetan
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I will have to disagree with you on your 8th point Chetan. The highlight for me was the low-end torque. I have ridden it ~1000kms out of which 500 were in traffic and city jams. The way the bike pulls under 5k is amazing. I haven't taken it beyond that just yet (which I will after the first service), so I am not in a position to comment on the mid-range.
But yes, I agree with you on the fact that the engine does heat up too quickly. Qwing to the design of the layered fairing, the fins direct the heat right at your legs which gets painful in traffic. Moreover, the fan turns after riding in stop and go traffic for like 15 mins.
Contrary to the expectation that this would be also be a comfortable commuter along with a sports tourer, I believe that its characters are inclined towards the highway. Rev it high and take it long, it would be happy. Negotiate daily traffic and city streets, especially in the summer heat, you would end up with red thighs
Last edited by kurtrules; 05-26-2011, 11:24 AM." I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not" - Kurt Cobain
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Point no. 8Originally posted by kurtrules View PostI will have to disagree with you on your 9th point Chetan. The highlight for me was the low-end torque. I have ridden it ~1000kms out of which 500 were in traffic and city jams. The way the bike pulls under 5k is amazing. I haven't taken it beyond that just yet (which I will after the first service), so I am not in a position to comment on the mid-range.
But yes, I agree with you on the fact that the engine does heat up too quickly. Qwing to the design of the layered fairing, the fins direct the heat right at your legs which gets painful in traffic. Moreover, the fan turns after riding in stop and go traffic for like 15 mins.
Contrary to the expectation that this would be also be a comfortable commuter along with a sports tourer, I believe that its characters are inclined towards the highway. Rev it high and take it long, it would be happy. Negotiate daily traffic and city streets, especially in the summer heat, you would end up with red thighs
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+1Originally posted by kurtrules View PostI will have to disagree with you on your 9th point Chetan. The highlight for me was the low-end torque. I have ridden it ~1000kms out of which 500 were in traffic and city jams. The way the bike pulls under 5k is amazing. I haven't taken it beyond that just yet (which I will after the first service), so I am not in a position to comment on the mid-range.
When I took test ride in bangalore Jayanagar traffic, I felt it doesnt have much power. But to my surprise when I saw speedo, I was at 70kmh in the traffic easily going up and coming down many times.
People dont feel torque, may be because of its very smooth and easily picks the speed, and the seating position doesnt let you feel the push.
One more point, I had a pillion sitting with me.It's not my confidence, I speak the Destiny
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Others do throw in points to the above in bold.Originally posted by chetanpulsar View PostGot my bike today !!
First observations:
1. Knocking below 2.5k rpm.
Totally agree.
2. Engine is rev hungry
Totally agree
3. Suspension is not excellent as I expected (will have to check the settings)
Suspension can be set in the rear. I and pillion(Sudeep) felt it was good, much better than our P150's and FZ16's. I am sure Sudeep would agree, but yes, it can be made better.
4. Radiator fan spins on battery also (like in cars)
Love the sound of it when it suddenly switches on, the radiator fan sound.
5. Wrist/palm/shoulder/back and left leg all paining after a 200km ride
Even I faced the same issue, only problem being that we need to hug the bike with our thighs, allowing rest to our arms and shoulders.
6. Bike is made for high speeds, low speeds are really boring
Actually there is a problem, not with the bike, but with my handling. The bike sometimes switches off when I take off in first gear, I am still to get used to the release-clutch-pull-throttle-all-simultaneously to move. Its kinda embarrassing when you have a rocket under your pants and you have starting problems.
(PUN IINTENDED).
7. Starter is super smooth and so is the engine
Thats the best part, the engine firing up.
8. Low rpms = no power just like the R15
I dont know if I am right, but R15 fires up properly only after 5K-6K RPM. But CBR does fire up from 3.5Kish RPM itself. Below 3, I hear knocking.
9. Brakes are super excellent
Did you feel your back wheel lock up? I am talking about non-ABS. I am now paranoid and use maximum front brakes. Even the Ninja owners told me that they use front brakes more and that their front disk pads wear out faster.
10. Engine was becoming very hot while riding in city, however the temp gauge never over 3 sticks (which is how it should be)
In city traffic, I feel the hot air coming out through the side fairings. But that hot air flow stops when you start moving. I guess this is a part of the break-in process.
11. Handling is too good



12. Did not like the seating position (have to lean too much on the bike - but will get used to it soon)
Same as point no.5
13. Bike is very very very very very prone to scratches
Deadly prone. I immediately got a tank pad.Is this a defect?
14. The bike wants to just go faster and faster



And ya one more thing.... the headlights are too good.... very good spread and better intensity than P220's headlamps (I have a P220 Fi.. checked side by side).

P220 has projector. I know CBR has extraordinary lightup power, but more than P220?
Comparing the bike to the P220 - CBR feels less torquey, maybe because the P220 has raw power and CBR feels processed/refined.
Will be getting the oil changed tomorrow at 200km on the odo.
VVVIQuestion: Where are you changing it from? What make? What grade? Synthetic/Mineral?
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Originally posted by chetanpulsar View PostGot my bike today !!
First observations:
1. Knocking below 2.5k rpm.
2. Engine is rev hungry
3. Suspension is not excellent as I expected (will have to check the settings)
4. Radiator fan spins on battery also (like in cars)
5. Wrist/palm/shoulder/back and left leg all paining after a 200km ride
6. Bike is made for high speeds, low speeds are really boring
7. Starter is super smooth and so is the engine
8. Low rpms = no power just like the R15
9. Brakes are super excellent
10. Engine was becoming very hot while riding in city, however the temp gauge never over 3 sticks (which is how it should be)
11. Handling is too good
12. Did not like the seating position (have to lean too much on the bike - but will get used to it soon)
13. Bike is very very very very very prone to scratches
14. The bike wants to just go faster and faster
No vibes, no sound at high rpms.
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I totally agree on the points no'd 3,6,10,13!!!
and point no 6 is because of the "reverse of point" no 8!!!
it pulls too fast in the initial revs for which u reach from one traffic zone to another in no time and u start to feel bored when u shift to second gear and then immediately back to first gear...grrrrr
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+1 fully agree to thatOriginally posted by AmlanR_CBR View PostI totally agree on the points no'd 3,6,10,13!!!
and point no 6 is because of the "reverse of point" no 8!!!
it give pulls too fast in the initial revs for which u reach from one traffic zone to another in no time and u start to feel bored when u shift to second gear and then immediately back to first gear...grrrrr
Chetan
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Point number 8 refers to rpm below 3k rpm. I agree above 3k rpm or even 2.5k rpm the bike pulls smoothly (ofcourse the gear should be the right one - or else it will knock).Originally posted by kurtrules View PostI will have to disagree with you on your 8th point Chetan. The highlight for me was the low-end torque. I have ridden it ~1000kms out of which 500 were in traffic and city jams. The way the bike pulls under 5k is amazing. I haven't taken it beyond that just yet (which I will after the first service), so I am not in a position to comment on the mid-range.
But yes, I agree with you on the fact that the engine does heat up too quickly. Qwing to the design of the layered fairing, the fins direct the heat right at your legs which gets painful in traffic. Moreover, the fan turns after riding in stop and go traffic for like 15 mins.
Contrary to the expectation that this would be also be a comfortable commuter along with a sports tourer, I believe that its characters are inclined towards the highway. Rev it high and take it long, it would be happy. Negotiate daily traffic and city streets, especially in the summer heat, you would end up with red thighs
If you compare this to the P220, the P220 pulls cleanly from 1.5k rpm on any gear
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I could not grab the bike completely as I was afraid there would be some scratches (there are 3 scratches now alreadyOriginally posted by ajaymanohar View PostOthers do throw in points to the above in bold.
), will try doing that after I get a tankpad.
The bike goes off if you don't not rev her above 2.5k rpm on 1st gear while launching. This is one thing that needs to getting used to as the P220 just goes when u leave the clutch on 1st gear (atleast the Fi does that)
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Am not sure why there is this peculiar knocking below 3k rpm on every gear incl. the first. It is made like that I think, because even the test ride was like that.
No back wheel locking up just like my P220. No issues, its soft and perfect as needed.
Where did you get the tankpad from (tell me Orion motors
, they are out of stock because of you now
... just kidding)
Am not sure my P220's headlamps have gone bad or something (they are still good, have check side by side with new P220 also), but the intensity on CBR is better, even the spread of high beam is better than P220.
Was going to get the oil changed from the dealer Dream Honda, Whitefield (the dealer I got the bike from), but then the service guy said its 20W40 semi-synthetic Honda oil especially imported for the CBR which costs Rs.550/litre. Hence I checked the quality of oil in the engine now, seems to be still new after 200km, so will get the oil changed at 1k kms during the servicing.
Ajay: PM me your number, we need to talk and I need to get that tankpad.Chetan
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Originally posted by chetanpulsar View PostPoint number 8 refers to rpm below 3k rpm. I agree above 3k rpm or even 2.5k rpm the bike pulls smoothly (ofcourse the gear should be the right one - or else it will knock).
If you compare this to the P220, the P220 pulls cleanly from 1.5k rpm on any gear
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i cant comment on this one cus my CBR is tuned to 2K RPM by the service centre guys!
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I had read about knocking issues in CBRs in the other forum. They were test bikes and even new ones. Some people got it rectified and were saying that it was due to faulty clutch settings.Originally posted by AmlanR_CBR View Post
i cant comment on this one cus my CBR is tuned to 2K RPM by the service centre guys!

You could ask the service center guys if that is the case and maybe get a solution.30+ YEARS OF RIDING
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