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  • For a single cylinder 250.. i think 150 is a good top end... with some more running in you should hit 155


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    • AFA I heard, Indian C250R's are tuned for mileage with 25 Bhp & the ones abroad (incl Thailand) are 26 Bhp. But does 1Bhp prevent the bike from touching an additional 5Kmph??? Not sure. But the point is, there is a difference between what is made for India & made for the world.
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      • Went in for the first service today, with 960kms on the odo, didn't wanna wait till the odo crossed 1k kms. But, due to unavailability of the oil filter, I couldn't get the oil changed, so that'll be done later during the week, when they get the oil filter. Rest of the checks were done, chain cleaned, lubed, and other vital fluids topped up, although there was nothing much to be done

        Got some special treatment, i.e the bike was parked in a separate bay, away from the rest of the bikes. The chief technician took complete charge of the job, and even gave a complimentary teflon coating. Bike seems pretty fine, post the first service, although no major improvement. Maybe, with the oil change, things will improve a bit

        Did manage to open her up more than usual, and was comfortably doing 130+ kmph, and the engine still had some grunt left. I'm guessing the top end could be around 150kmph, and of course as the engine runs-in further, we can hope to stretch that figure a bit more

        I do admit that the top end might seem a lil short, when compared to the Ninja, but the eagerness to get there is just amazing. 6th gear, around 100ish, whack the throttle and it just keeps pulling like a train!!!

        Also, ppl checking out top end, any speed upward of 130/140 will require proper crouching, otherwise you're just creating more resistance.

        Also got to test the bike in some hilly terrain, and this is just the bike for such a terrain. Exit the corner, open the throttle, and the mid-range torque pulls out of corners excellently. No more hunting for power, like on the R15.

        Same case with highway overtaking, crack the throttle, and overtaking is just child's play

        More on the performance, after I get the oil-oil filter changed

        Also, got this tank pad:Tankpad Keiti Spezial Typ TK 022 Kawasaki
        Looks a lil sedate, but for a silver bike, I guess it'll be ok
        Will post pics after I afix it
        Last edited by hifisharu; 05-23-2011, 10:57 PM.

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        • Originally posted by aargee View Post
          AFA I heard, Indian C250R's are tuned for mileage with 25 Bhp & the ones abroad (incl Thailand) are 26 Bhp. But does 1Bhp prevent the bike from touching an additional 5Kmph??? Not sure. But the point is, there is a difference between what is made for India & made for the world.
          Man, if you talk about mileage, the figures are quite impressive on Thai roads. I am kind of perplexed now to go for CBR or not?

          Unexpected issues so far....

          1.A very nasty delay in delivery (though it has reasons)
          2. Quality issues ( clip on, susp oil leakage, paint issues)
          3. Performance issue ( we do not expect it to do 165km/hr but 150 km/hr should be achieved without chores)
          4. There might be more surprises in Honda's urn for poor Indians

          Are you listening Honda? am very much dejected now.
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          • @hifisharu: Congrats on getting the bike! Please pm me about the differences between R15&CBR 250 in detail when you have the inclination to do so!

            @Others: I saw a video where the topspeed was 164/165kmph. Is the Indian CBR really 1bhp low on power? Can that make such a huge difference in top end?

            @Those who have completed run-in: I understand that 100 comes up at around 6.2K RPM.
            I would like to know, what speed does the bike achieve at exactly 7K RPM? R15 does about 101kmph with chain/sprockets intact. This speed yields the highest mileage&the engine is not stressed at all.
            Since the CBR 250 also has peak power at 8.5K RPM (though peak torque comes in at 7K RPM, 500rpm lower than that of R15), this will most likely tell us what is the most comfortable cruising speed.
            Last edited by Sarvajit; 05-23-2011, 11:06 PM.
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            • @hifisharu - How much did the first service cost you?
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              • Hellow guys!!

                Cudnt go out for a ride today!
                Anyways i just wanted to know
                1. that how many of the CBR owners here did actually follow MOTOMAN and changed their engine oil during the initial phase of run-in??

                2. a good quality lube for my CBR o-ring chain.... yesterday's was a very dusty ride and my chain is running dry and noisy,though of lubing it a bit before taking it for servicing which is still another 650kms away!

                thanks!

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                • Originally posted by pravu View Post
                  1.A very nasty delay in delivery (though it has reasons)
                  Yes & all of us were waiting too

                  Originally posted by pravu View Post
                  2. Quality issues ( clip on, susp oil leakage, paint issues)
                  Aren't you following the thread? These issues seem to have addressed by HMSI. As long as your vehicle is not in the 1st lot you don't need to worry. Even if they are, warranty should be able to cover them isn't it?

                  Originally posted by pravu View Post
                  3. Performance issue ( we do not expect it to do 165km/hr but 150 km/hr should be achieved without chores)
                  Speed is a very subjective term & I don't have much say on it. Personally to me a 140 Kmph is sufficient on these roads. Speaking from an international perspective, excluding auto bahn & free ways, most highways have a speed limit less than 150 Kmph (see - Speed limit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

                  The speed limit itself is subjective w.r.t to different nations & most countries follow a speed limit way too less than 90mph & I believe a C250R is designed to achieve that.

                  While the C250R might lack one cylinder, 8 ponies less, twin head lamps, attention to detail & special attention to customers, why not look at...
                  - The cost of the product
                  - The technology (shim, ABS, digital console)
                  - The cost of servicing. Pls go through the N250R ownership thread to see how much each service can lighten your wallet. Remember buying is one time affair, but maintenance is for life time
                  - Most importantly, the wide spread service centres

                  I'm no way justifying or even convincing you, but, just writing down my thoughts that I too under went. Like I keep saying, there're pros & cons in every motorcycle, its upto the rider to get used to them. You may even want to discard this entire section if you like

                  Originally posted by pravu View Post
                  4. There might be more surprises in Honda's urn for poor Indians
                  Like?
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                  Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                  • funny though

                    @ above

                    There is a gap of understanding for sure. I did only count all the unexpected issues but I did not touch whether they were resolved or not?

                    Second, expectation is something often roped in with reasons. Honda is not a minnow either. A 250cc international bike struggling to do 150 mark is something cannot be given a blind eye. You prefer 140 mark is only your requirement which you are addressing. That does not necessarily solve this performance issue. Am sure there are many over here who would love to push CBR to its limits and get disheartened about the outcome.

                    Does not matter if you guys agree or not but on an open and stretched out road if you ever get a chance to race against a joeld R15 or any upcoming 250s, you would definitely feel the lack of punch and power. Even if its for that moment, but the effect would be long lasting.
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                    • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

                      @Others: I saw a video where the topspeed was 164/165kmph. Is the Indian CBR really 1bhp low on power? Can that make such a huge difference in top end?

                      @Those who have completed run-in: I understand that 100 comes up at around 6.2K RPM.
                      I would like to know, what speed does the bike achieve at exactly 7K RPM? R15 does about 101kmph with chain/sprockets intact. This speed yields the highest mileage&the engine is not stressed at all.
                      Since the CBR 250 also has peak power at 8.5K RPM (though peak torque comes in at 7K RPM, 500rpm lower than that of R15), this will most likely tell us what is the most comfortable cruising speed.
                      Well, first of all I don't think Indian CBR is much underpowered. Though I wasn't able to go beyond 144kmph, it was still not near red-line. This might be cause the engine needs some more running-in. So I guess at redline, the bike should do around 155-160kmph.

                      At 7k rpm in 6th gear, the bike does close to 120 kmph.

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                      • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                        Speed is a very subjective term & I don't have much say on it. Personally to me a 140 Kmph is sufficient on these roads. Speaking from an international perspective, excluding auto bahn & free ways, most highways have a speed limit less than 150 Kmph
                        No offence mate but If 140 was enough for me, I would have bought a P220 and shed a lakh less.

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                        • Originally posted by jerk View Post
                          No offence mate but If 140 was enough for me, I would have bought a P220 and shed a lakh less.
                          +1. My msg was indirect in my last post but you spoke off the chest.
                          And I hope it really goes past 150km/hr easily. Please keep us updated.
                          Last edited by pravu; 05-24-2011, 01:41 AM. Reason: typo
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                          • Originally posted by pravu View Post
                            +1. My msg indirect in my last post but you spoke off the chest.
                            And I hope it really goes past 150km/hr easily. Please keep us updated.
                            though i never rode cbr250,i am very positive that i will do a top speed around 160
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                            • umm....anyone to assist me a bit with the questions above??

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                              • Originally posted by AmlanR_CBR View Post
                                Hellow guys!!

                                2. a good quality lube for my CBR o-ring chain.... yesterday's was a very dusty ride and my chain is running dry and noisy,though of lubing it a bit before taking it for servicing which is still another 650kms away!

                                thanks!
                                Motul chain clean works nice and easily available as well, but you got to buy the chain lube with it which is a must buy type in many shops.
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