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  • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
    that would have been hurting you
    More than hurt, a great embarrassment. The kind of looks you get means, oh!!! did you pay so much to get struck here? And not to mention that women are good at recollecting & associating things of past for any issues in future

    Originally posted by BladeBoy View Post
    But are ya facing this issue only after the first service ?
    IMO, servicing has nothing to do with this issue.

    Originally posted by BladeBoy View Post
    Did ya ever try to do a punch speed test during the initial run?
    Though I planned to cross 9K RPM during the initial run, I didn't surpass 7.5K at any point in time during the 1st 1000 Kms. And didn't cross 5K RPM during the 1st 500 Kms run.
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    • Service got nothing to do with it, Right. But was it powerless just from the beginning of usage ? Or just now you are facing these kinda issues ? Caz if I can analyze you had happy times and grinning FE figures during the initial run ? Didnt ya ? Something like 38's and 40's right!?

      Originally posted by aargee View Post
      IMO, servicing has nothing to do with this issue.


      Though I planned to cross 9K RPM during the initial run, I didn't surpass 7.5K at any point in time during the 1st 1000 Kms. And didn't cross 5K RPM during the 1st 500 Kms run.
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      • Originally posted by aargee View Post
        More than hurt, a great embarrassment. The kind of looks you get means, oh!!! did you pay so much to get struck here? And not to mention that women are good at recollecting & associating things of past for any issues in future
        Guess your fate is sealed now......and you paid for it..


        Though I planned to cross 9K RPM during the initial run, I didn't surpass 7.5K at any point in time during the 1st 1000 Kms. And didn't cross 5K RPM during the 1st 500 Kms run.
        My guess is ,your run in has no relevance to your present,problem.All modern engines can sustain 75 % of their rated RPM limit during run in.
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        • Originally posted by aargee View Post
          More than hurt, a great embarrassment. The kind of looks you get means, oh!!! did you pay so much to get struck here? And not to mention that women are good at recollecting & associating things of past for any issues in future
          Agree with you 10000000%
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          • @ALL looks like problems after first service exists, and main culprit is the A.S.S. not filling proper oil or level, and FIXING THE OIL FILTER THE WRONG WAY.
            Motor issue [Archive] - Honda CBR250 Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums
            Please read the post of Michael dated 06-20-2011, 06:19 PM, on proper fixing of the oil filter.
            Last edited by psr; 06-21-2011, 12:04 PM.
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            • My reply in-line.

              Originally posted by darkknight View Post
              2)snatchy fi -- the bike runs smoothly at all gears at particular rpms but suddenly during in 5th or 6th gear upon leaving the throttle the bike suddenly loses steam & causes me to lunge forward ,what I mean here is, it does not decelerate smoothly.this happens once or twice in approximately 50 km ride

              I faced this issue on my Karizma too.
              From little knowledge I have, my guess then was it happens with catbureted bikes.
              When I rode my friend's R15, this issue was almost not present.
              Though I could feel it at times.
              As psr has already said, could be because of engine braking.
              Though suggest you to bring it to Honda's notice.


              Originally posted by psr View Post
              2. The lunging forward on leaving throttle is because of engine breaking characteristic of any 4 stroke engine, and will happen only when RPM to gear ratio is tall..ie., it will not happen on 6 th gear at 50 Kmph but will happen at 80 or 90 Kmph.
              Originally posted by darkknight View Post
              paint quality seriously should have been better -- not two weeks into the purchase & tank area already has a dull lightening of the paint

              I remember somebody saying so quite a few pages back.
              He had also said, black & silver colour will sustain longer than red n similar was found in Thailand as well.
              May be external coating can help extend red colour to sustain longer.
              Originally posted by darkknight View Post
              ps:stupid radiator fan turns on only when the engine kill switch is "on" position & the fuel pump turning on whenever the switch is put on is irritating in mumbai where you need to switch off the bike every now & than

              This might have been done to save quick battery draining.
              As psr explains, fuel pump shall maintain high pressure all time which might consume a lot of battery juice.
              Though radiator fan could have been spared from this.
              How does any other FI bike behave in such scenario? (May be you only can answer as you owned R15 previously?)
              Originally posted by psr View Post
              The Liquid Cooled engines have heat sensors which help keep the engine temperature nearly 80 to 85 C.The circuit Actuation bypasses ignition switch so that if the radiator motor is switched on and we switch off the ignition the cooling by runing of the fan must and will continue.Not an issue.
              In Injected engines the pressure required for the injector to spray a fine mist of petrol requires high pressure, which is developed by the fuel pump. so every time the ignition is switched on the pump will work and ensures that adequate pressure is maintained..

              I guess you misunderstood DarkNight's statement.
              He is complaining about Radiator fan & Fuel pump are ON ONLY when Engine kill switch is ON.
              Ideally, radiator fan & fuel pump shall bypass engine kill switch & should remain ON if the ignition is ON irrelevant of engine kill switch being ON or OFF.
              In traffic, this will help bike to get cooled faster & be ready to crank as soon as engine kill switch is turned ON.
              I guess with CBR, on has to wait for fuel pump to settle down after every time one switches engine kill to ON before cranking the engine.
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              • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                More than hurt, a great embarrassment. The kind of looks you get means, oh!!! did you pay so much to get struck here? And not to mention that women are good at recollecting & associating things of past for any issues in future

                +100 had same experience with my friends R15 last year which did Max 115 with is GF as pillion.....where he lost to fourth
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                She makes fun of him every time when we meet ........
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                • Darkknight.. I am proposing possible causes..I don't own a cbr 250 and had not been on one either. I don't have in depth knowledge of it's engine.....so take my observations ..as such ,and don't assume it to be correct.
                  1. The engine of cbr is unique in many ways...the crankshaft center is offset forward towards exhaust by 4 degrees to ease compression stroke downward movement...this does reduce vibes...but the engine also has a Balancer mechanism.....Any bike that has balancer is bound to have vibes problem IF the balancer is not set up properly....This may be one of the reason....apart from advanced ignition map for better FE.

                  Thanks ,will get this checked .

                  2. The lunging forward on leaving throttle is because of engine breaking characteristic of any 4 stroke engine, and will happen only when RPM to gear ratio is tall..ie., it will not happen on 6 th gear at 50 Kmph but will happen at 80 or 90 Kmph.

                  Never happened in ninja,220,rtr or even the r15.In fact not even one of the bikes I have rode.I tell this from around 4 lac kms experience of riding smaller 4 strokes.

                  3. This is 4 Valve per cylinder bike with a good fuel efficiency.With a leaner AFR ratio the engine will generate higher temperature, and a new bike whose internals have not worked and mated with each other, will definitely have more friction areas to smooth down.this also creates friction and heat..using 10w30 oil in our hot climate is another reason..a thicker oil like 20w40 will reduce this heating.

                  Am using 20w40 only.but this I can live with as it's expected in very heavy traffic.

                  The Liquid Cooled engines have heat sensors which help keep the engine temperature nearly 80 to 85 C.The circuit Actuation bypasses ignition switch so that if the radiator motor is switched on and we switch off the ignition the cooling by runing of the fan must and will continue.Not an issue.
                  In Injected engines the pressure required for the injector to spray a fine mist of petrol requires high pressure, which is developed by the fuel pump. so every time the ignition is switched on the pump will work and ensures that adequate pressure is maintained..

                  R15 had radiator fan disconnected with the kill switch.so that it use to run even when the switch is off & so was the fuel pump which didn't use to turn on evrytime switch was turned on & off.again it's a design thing so need getting used to that's it.

                  anyone having any idea about valves adjustment & shim measurements ?
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                  • Originally posted by BladeBoy View Post
                    Right. But was it powerless just from the beginning of usage ?
                    How would I know that? I didn't have another C250R to compare. Like I said before, pls wait for my updates. Thursday should be max. If no one responds, then lets look for next steps.

                    Originally posted by BladeBoy View Post
                    Something like 38's and 40's right!?
                    That's what HMSI also says. If there's some serious issues, first thing to get hit is FE. Since mine is nothing less than 35, they don't suspect anything serious.

                    Originally posted by psr View Post
                    Guess your fate is sealed now......and you paid for it..
                    Lol!!!

                    Originally posted by psr View Post
                    your run in has no relevance to your present,problem.
                    That's what I believe too; but sometimes, it just gets over.

                    Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                    Agree with you 10000000%
                    Lol!!!

                    Originally posted by Vincycool View Post
                    She makes fun of him every time when we meet ........
                    Don't compare GF's with Wifeys!!! Both have completely different attitude. GF's keep hitting at all the places so at some point you get numb on those. But Wifeys know all your weak points & they hit on the bull eys at the right time, that pains like hell

                    DK - It was difficult reading you post, from the little I could gather...
                    Originally posted by darkknight View Post
                    anyone having any idea about valves adjustment & shim measurements ?
                    Valves adjustments eh? From my little understanding, the valve clearance needs to be inspected & the shims needs to be changed accordingly. I could be wrong though & the valve clearances are done every 6K kms by ASC.
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                    • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                      Don't compare GF's with Wifeys!!! Both have completely different attitude. GF's keep hitting at all the places so at some point you get numb on those. But Wifeys know all your weak points & they hit on the bull eys at the right time, that pains like hell
                      Sorry for the OT, but could not stop laughing. Experience(you) speaks and experience (me) relates and recollects.
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                      • Hey anyone got their hands on a frame slide yet??
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                        • Originally posted by jacob View Post
                          Hey anyone got their hands on a frame slide yet??
                          Most are waiting to get their hands on the bike first.
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                          • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                            Most are waiting to get their hands on the bike first.
                            lol i know but a few do right! Was asking them btw anna any idea where i can get a tank pad for the CBR in Hyderabad???
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                            • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                              More than hurt, a great embarrassment. The kind of looks you get means, oh!!! did you pay so much to get struck here? And not to mention that women are good at recollecting & associating things of past for any issues in future
                              Don't compare GF's with Wifeys!!! Both have completely different attitude. GF's keep hitting at all the places so at some point you get numb on those. But Wifeys know all your weak points & they hit on the bull eys at the right time, that pains like hell
                              Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                              Agree with you 10000000%
                              What a relief sorry God for blaming you..I thought you singled me out for the "Treatment" till I saw fellow homo sapiens riding in the same boat.
                              Last edited by psr; 06-21-2011, 01:35 PM.
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                              • CBR service manual in THAI language.

                                @ ALL cbr 250R owners...Here is a link to the Service manual IN THAI language for CBR 150R and CBR 250R...

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