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Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0
very philosophical ron :P i just meant it will (hopefully) be a few performance steps higher than the other sportbikes in this range, cbr 250r, ninja 250r/300, hyosung gt 250r..and dare i say, the first real 250cc competent sportbike..a man can dream and wish 
i had the impression it would be an R25 and a fazer 250..
hey R15 is an indian made bike that also gets exported to some first world markets where high motorcycle quality has to be maintained such as japan, australia, nz..
also, in the future more and more international motorcycles are going to be manufactured by the companies in their indian and other asian manufacturing plants and exported to europe etc from there..and anyway, i can trust companies like yamaha that their standard of quality control doesnt get lower just because it's an indian manufacturing plant..
yes, while for a 250 single cylinder is fine, i think there's not so less a chance the yamaha R25 will be a parallel twin..seeing as how ninja 300 is, ninja 250r is and its future competitor KTM RC250 will also likely be..costs will be a higher for a twin, but most likely it's going to be manufactured in india and exported to several countries from here, so for us, it might not end up being too costly (by which i mean within the 2.5 lakhs or so)
this news has been around for several months actually, it was supposed to be happening in summer 2013..the new ninja 250r pictures showed it was going to be very similar looking to the 300.
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i believe the 250 will be finally launched in 2014 Q3 or Q4. i think it's so late firstly because yamaha got around to it very late, secondly they maybe prefer to take their time and do it right and produce a winner, and thirdly maybe market research took some time as well on top of starting the very project late and additionally maybe they are thinking hard how to produce a competent 250 sportbike without any compromises but also reasonable price so that performance-to-cost wise it kills the market of the cbr250r, ninjas and hyosungs (but very few care about the latter anyway).
yeah the CBR 400R is again going to be a more "confortable" and diluted (sportbike performance wise) version of their new CBR 500R..
rumours being always there, one actually sees articles mentioning an upcoming yamaha 400 R as well :\ as far as i know and have read, no where has yamaha in any of its events or press releases ever said a 400 is in the coming.
but like i said, while i plan and wish for R25 or ninja 300 or KTM RC 250/390 as my next sportbike, i actually dream and hope for a triple YZF-R 300/375/450 or something. that would be awesome
true story. :P the hero-honda-ness in them will probably take a decade or two to go away :P
btw how many CBRs are there ? 150R, 250R, 400R, 500R, 600RR, 1000RR :P of these, only the latter 3 are full fledged sportbikes (and probably the 150R as well? i don't know). the 250R actually should have been a VFR instead of a CBR (400R as well), which clearly was a marketing strategy by honda to appeal to people's impressions and feelings for the CBR name.
Originally posted by Ron Syl
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BTW i really doubt if any bike, in this case its so called R25, will be a all bike killer. because it just cant be. but its the character it shows defines it. KTM has its own, R15 has its own. end of the the bike has to be like if you park it in the garage and walk and you look back to admire it and get back the next day eager to ride it again! thats my definition for a other bike killer. this i do everyday believe it or not.
thats my definition for a other bike killer. this i do everyday believe it or not.
Originally posted by Ron Syl
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Originally posted by Ron Syl
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If yamaha gets a internationally launched R25, expect its pricing to be rocket high if manufactured outside india, just like ninja. if its manufactured in india then also it will be little higher then you expect. i frankly want a internationally launched bike rather then indian tailor made bike. which ofcourse is a bleak dream. our roads are so bad that they can break a hummer lol AFAIk it will a single, keeping the costs low, i only see 10% chance of it being a twin, since costs will be higher. maintaining twin is pain then a single. for a 250 i say single is just fine. so forget about twin
also, in the future more and more international motorcycles are going to be manufactured by the companies in their indian and other asian manufacturing plants and exported to europe etc from there..and anyway, i can trust companies like yamaha that their standard of quality control doesnt get lower just because it's an indian manufacturing plant..
yes, while for a 250 single cylinder is fine, i think there's not so less a chance the yamaha R25 will be a parallel twin..seeing as how ninja 300 is, ninja 250r is and its future competitor KTM RC250 will also likely be..costs will be a higher for a twin, but most likely it's going to be manufactured in india and exported to several countries from here, so for us, it might not end up being too costly (by which i mean within the 2.5 lakhs or so)
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rumours being always there, one actually sees articles mentioning an upcoming yamaha 400 R as well :\ as far as i know and have read, no where has yamaha in any of its events or press releases ever said a 400 is in the coming.
but like i said, while i plan and wish for R25 or ninja 300 or KTM RC 250/390 as my next sportbike, i actually dream and hope for a triple YZF-R 300/375/450 or something. that would be awesome
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btw how many CBRs are there ? 150R, 250R, 400R, 500R, 600RR, 1000RR :P of these, only the latter 3 are full fledged sportbikes (and probably the 150R as well? i don't know). the 250R actually should have been a VFR instead of a CBR (400R as well), which clearly was a marketing strategy by honda to appeal to people's impressions and feelings for the CBR name.
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