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  • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

    [MENTION=37022]Ron Syl[/MENTION] - there's a khat sound to some degree when one changes the gear always in any bike, no ?

    my low gear shifts are indeed a bit hard..or rather, harder than what it used to be when the bike was a few days old..after 1st servicing it was still like that..and it's only really the 1st and 2nd gears...they do make that khat sound, but it's from the gear shifter that feels a bit hard when UP shifting from 1st gear to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd or neutral to 1st...when downshifting, there's a pretty loud khat sound (this time from inside it feels like) just as i downshift to 2nd and 1st when i am say braking within a short distance from a speed of 30-40 or higher and continuously down shifting one by one with the clutch lever pulled in throughout...

    hope you are okay otherwise.

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    Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
    And all.. Any reasons for footpeg vibes??? Other than chain lube and wheel alignment?? Though my wheel alignment is off by 1 point and going to fix it this sat. Any other reason apart from this?? Engine oil is brand new
    there's always going to be a bit of footpeg vibes (buzzing type vibes) whenever you are at good deal of RPM or speed..you mean something even more than that usual normal vibes ?

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      Hello Guys,
      i am back after a year.
      I managed to make a good bikers group and we have good rides all around city and few places outside the city every weekend, i will get you many of our pics on next Message.
      Well i was eager tpo reply for that khat khat sound and i finally found that when i change the gears at high rpms, i wont find any khat khat sound.

      (The reason i was not able to go through xbhp was due to the Network Admin at my office who blocked xbhp.com and after a year with so much of requesting i finally got the access of this site)
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      • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

        Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post
        Guys, there some info i wanna share from my observation.

        Gear shifts:

        you feel your gear shifts are hard? there are two things there.
        1. is the gear lever hard to shift?
        2. the gear lever is fine but the gear shifts inside are hard (they do khat sound ) and it gets stuck at neutral more often.


        BTW i had been to bank during lunch break, while coming back i was behind a activa and it was behind a auto. it as a slow moving traffic. i thought of overtaking the activa from right, was going at very low speed (about 5kmph i guess), accelerated n went little to right but the auto guy braked suddenly n the activa guy did the same. realizing that i will hit the activa guy i did panic braking n my handle turned to right and since i had picked up little pace i skid and fell to the left. i jumped and fell on my left with my hips n knee first n then my back. my back was saved by my bag and my jacket saved my upper body. sadly i have a bruise on the knee n hips. very minor. but in little pain. all this happened ina span of 3 to 4 secs. so sad soul came to help, the activa guy stopped to look what happened and i suddenly realized all were looking at me with the traffic coming to halt. got up, picked the bike at 1 go and saw RVM broken in half, felt disgusted, went to the side n parked. i didnt bother to look at others too. one guy was good enough to get me the broken piece of the RVM . check for handle bend. it was good. saw the clutch bar, scratched but not broken, was happy. checked the forks by applying brake standing still, didnt get any weird sound. so happy. but while taking turn near office i realized bike was going right after applying form brake. need to test it again while going home. sad part is i had just got the bike made proper. i hope there is no fork bend.
        Oh Shit!.. Take care bro and get well soon. And yeah in that pic your clutch lever looks a bit bent... and about that bike swaying to right... remember when you rode my bike, the same issue was there. Mostly, the outer right fork has a bend... Get it checked. Initially, the mechanic at BW may not agree to anything... make him check properly.. If its swaying to right ( for sure) then pakka something wrong with Right forks...

        BTW, guys.. at times I feel that my braking capabilities need improvement(especially when its raining)...Any tips???Or any thread where I could get useful information regarding the same.

        @aditya_YZF_R15: Bro just chill out and ride your bike.. Initially for the first 1000-1500 kms the gear shifts are a bit hard for almost everyone. Mostly by around 3k kms things will improve... This is a very common thing... And well 1st gear is almost always with a KHAT sound..( More prominent in pulsars and FZs..try it if you want) So don't worry about it. Keep the chain lubed & ride without thinking about it.

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          Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
          @Ron Syl sad bro take care and fix her asap. Also your clutch lever is bent
          good observation there. bike is fine. so bent stuffs. only the RVM is broken. sadly my knee hurts bad. swollen little.

          Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
          @Ron Syl - there's a khat sound to some degree when one changes the gear always in any bike, no ?

          my low gear shifts are indeed a bit hard..or rather, harder than what it used to be when the bike was a few days old..after 1st servicing it was still like that..and it's only really the 1st and 2nd gears...they do make that khat sound, but it's from the gear shifter that feels a bit hard when UP shifting from 1st gear to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd or neutral to 1st...when downshifting, there's a pretty loud khat sound (this time from inside it feels like) just as i downshift to 2nd and 1st when i am say braking within a short distance from a speed of 30-40 or higher and continuously down shifting one by one with the clutch lever pulled in throughout...

          hope you are okay otherwise.

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          there's always going to be a bit of footpeg vibes (buzzing type vibes) whenever you are at good deal of RPM or speed..you mean something even more than that usual normal vibes ?
          well the sound i am referring to is a sound when the 2 objects hit each other rather then sliding against. apart form the normal gears shifting sounds. and also the gears shifts get stuck in all gears , then its a concern. the first 2 gears are like that only. if you are facing the issue where it gets stuck in neutral almost everyday or often then check your shifting and also the clutch setting.

          one more tip: while down shifting plz leave some secs gap between shifts. if you dont then the gears n clutch plates get damaged. while shifting from 1st to 2nd give sufficient time to let the gear shift to 2nd and give good power from your toe to shift so that it does not get stuck at neutral. the higher gears can be shifted sooner then the lower gears and just with a minor flick.
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          • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

            Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post
            well the sound i am referring to is a sound when the 2 objects hit each other rather then sliding against. apart form the normal gears shifting sounds. and also the gears shifts get stuck in all gears , then its a concern. the first 2 gears are like that only. if you are facing the issue where it gets stuck in neutral almost everyday or often then check your shifting and also the clutch setting.
            yeah then it's a problem of course. none of that happening with me so far.

            Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post
            one more tip: while down shifting plz leave some secs gap between shifts. if you dont then the gears n clutch plates get damaged.
            ok. good tip. yeah sometimes i downshift from some higher gear to 1st really quickly, typically when i have to suddenly brake hard, so while the braking is getting done, i also pull in the clutch lever and downshift one after the other.

            Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post
            while shifting from 1st to 2nd give sufficient time to let the gear shift to 2nd and give good power from your toe to shift so that it does not get stuck at neutral.
            yeah that i do..only way to go from 1 to 2 without encountering N...rarely still i stuck it up at neutral on account of insufficient push on the shifter. but that's rare.

            Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post
            the higher gears can be shifted sooner then the lower gears and just with a minor flick.
            true story.

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            Originally posted by Shubham@bikez View Post
            @aditya_YZF_R15: Bro just chill out and ride your bike.. Initially for the first 1000-1500 kms the gear shifts are a bit hard for almost everyone. Mostly by around 3k kms things will improve... This is a very common thing...And well 1st gear is almost always with a KHAT sound
            oh ok, good to know that (and i am chill)...not that i thought of it as a problem except in the initial days of my bike, but i also thought it's just going to be like that forever and sometimes wish the 1st gear was a little smoother overall..

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              Hello Guys, these are few pics taken from my Lumia720. i hope you like it. Red R15 is mine, Limited Edition R15 with WHite Sol helmet is The HEll Rider Nauman. we both are xbhp members.
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              • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
                oh ok, good to know that (and i am chill)...not that i thought of it as a problem except in the initial days of my bike, but i also thought it's just going to be like that forever and sometimes wish the 1st gear was a little smoother overall..
                The gears on a bike act like a torque multiplier. In the first gear the maximum amount of torque is being applied to the ground via the transmission & the tires.
                The throttle is more sensitive and may feel twitchy (in inexperienced hands). There is more noise and you are also able to hear more of it.
                So, obviously its not gonna feel as smooth in high revs as say riding in 6th gear.

                The "khat" sound while shifting in lower gears is normal. Its especially pronounced while shifting at higher revs.

                Regarding the neutral problem the solution is simple you need to be firm (and by that i don't mean lever-bending firm) on the pedal while shifting. Do that and you won't have that problem anymore.

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                • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                  Originally posted by incipient View Post
                  Regarding the neutral problem the solution is simple you need to be firm (and by that i don't mean lever-bending firm) on the pedal while shifting. Do that and you won't have that problem anymore.
                  it's not a problem happens rarely, probably like 6-7 times in the 2 months of riding the bike..most of those 6-7 occurrences were in the first few days of riding my bike in traffic.

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                  • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                    hey guys i am new on xbhp and planning to buy a new bike in few months

                    so i have have come to a decision to go with r15 but i have heard that yamaha is planning to launch r125 or a 250cc r15 so should i wait? and i am a beginner in biking as i have just learnt how to ride one so please suggest me to wait or go with this. I am in no hurry to buy i can wait till like feb 2014 as i have a hero maestro scooter.


                    and also suggest me any other bike with performance and low maintenance.

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                    • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                      Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
                      @Ron Syl - there's a khat sound to some degree when one changes the gear always in any bike, no ?

                      my low gear shifts are indeed a bit hard..or rather, harder than what it used to be when the bike was a few days old..after 1st servicing it was still like that..and it's only really the 1st and 2nd gears...they do make that khat sound, but it's from the gear shifter that feels a bit hard when UP shifting from 1st gear to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd or neutral to 1st...when downshifting, there's a pretty loud khat sound (this time from inside it feels like) just as i downshift to 2nd and 1st when i am say braking within a short distance from a speed of 30-40 or higher and continuously down shifting one by one with the clutch lever pulled in throughout...

                      hope you are okay otherwise.?


                      Hey Ron your bruises alright now ? hope it aint a problem riding the bike

                      on another note for Aditya. Did you try to find the sweet spot of gear shifts ? try changing gears at 6K rpm. Me and most of the groupies have the same inputs. for the First gear its alright. Ride a superbike and you'll know what you are referring to as a thud is as loud as a hydraulic hammer crashing down on a puny metal head. exaggerated but its very pronounced. In our bike sometimes it makes a thud sometimes it doesnt. For the rest of the gear shifts from 2-6th Gear try to find the sweet spot and you'll never even know when the gear shift happened.
                      Try that and get back with your observations here. other vibrations > handle bar, footpegs, tanks are gonna be prevalant to a limit. unless you have crashed-bammed-burned your bike, you can live with little vibrations here and there. Clean and lube the chain well. tighten up the screws, allen nuts, fairings. Air up properly according to the road conditions and you are good to enjoy the ride. whats the ODO by the way ?

                      there's always going to be a bit of footpeg vibes (buzzing type vibes) whenever you are at good deal of RPM or speed..you mean something even more than that usual normal vibes
                      Keep Calm and Kaam se Kaam

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                      Read and follow the OWNER's Manual. Keep it simple.. Old School technique will do more good than harm your bike

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                      • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                        Originally posted by Sorcerer's apprentice View Post
                        Hey Ron your bruises alright now ? hope it aint a problem riding the bike

                        on another note for Aditya. Did you try to find the sweet spot of gear shifts ? try changing gears at 6K rpm. Me and most of the groupies have the same inputs. for the First gear its alright. Ride a superbike and you'll know what you are referring to as a thud is as loud as a hydraulic hammer crashing down on a puny metal head. exaggerated but its very pronounced. In our bike sometimes it makes a thud sometimes it doesnt. For the rest of the gear shifts from 2-6th Gear try to find the sweet spot and you'll never even know when the gear shift happened.
                        Try that and get back with your observations here. other vibrations > handle bar, footpegs, tanks are gonna be prevalant to a limit. unless you have crashed-bammed-burned your bike, you can live with little vibrations here and there. Clean and lube the chain well. tighten up the screws, allen nuts, fairings. Air up properly according to the road conditions and you are good to enjoy the ride. whats the ODO by the way ?

                        there's always going to be a bit of footpeg vibes (buzzing type vibes) whenever you are at good deal of RPM or speed..you mean something even more than that usual normal vibes
                        A bit too much only on right footpeg. I guess it due to misalignment. Rear wheel Got misaligned when chain slack was adjusted. Geting it fixed tomorrow
                        Its better to sweat than bleed!! "AGATT "

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                        • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                          Originally posted by Sorcerer's apprentice View Post
                          Hey Ron your bruises alright now ? hope it aint a problem riding the bike
                          swelling is come down, pain reduced. have a ride of about 600kms tomorrow hope things fall in right places and ride happens.
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                          • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                            Originally posted by Sorcerer's apprentice View Post
                            Did you try to find the sweet spot of gear shifts ? try changing gears at 6K rpm. Me and most of the groupies have the same inputs. for the First gear its alright. For the rest of the gear shifts from 2-6th Gear try to find the sweet spot and you'll never even know when the gear shift happened.
                            Try that and get back with your observations here.
                            now that you say it and now that i think about it, indeed sometimes i have observed hardly any gear changing sound at certain RPM(s)..at high gears it anyway hardly makes any pronounced sound at pretty much any RPMs, but even shifting the low gears have sounded very soft at certain RPMs.. but i never noted the said RPMs, but the fact definitely was noted in my mind but till now i just assumed it to be one of those few random things..well now i suppose fewer things are random..will get back to you on the exact RPM that this happens in my bike.

                            Originally posted by Sorcerer's apprentice View Post
                            Ride a superbike
                            you offering me one ?

                            Originally posted by Sorcerer's apprentice View Post
                            In our bike sometimes it makes a thud sometimes it doesnt.
                            exactly.

                            Originally posted by Sorcerer's apprentice View Post
                            other vibrations > handle bar, footpegs, tanks are gonna be prevalant to a limit. unless you have crashed-bammed-burned your bike, you can live with little vibrations here and there..
                            it wasnt me asking about vibes, it was siddharth..but anyway, yeah, that naturally buzzing-type vibes aren't an issue with me..infact i kinda like it, makes me feel i am riding some serious shit 8)

                            Originally posted by Sorcerer's apprentice View Post
                            tighten up the screws, allen nuts, fairings
                            so far the only DIY stuff i have done, lol...

                            after that minor cornering crash i had a few weeks ago, one of the bolts on the right side of my fairing has been perpetually somewhat lose (doesnt fully tighten ever)..well, not lose, just not as tight as it should be/used to be/as the corresponding bolt on the left side is...makes no vibes or anything while riding at any RPM or speed though. that's why i didnt even notice it until a few days ago while tightening up all the nuts and bolts.

                            Originally posted by Sorcerer's apprentice View Post
                            whats the ODO by the way ?
                            1600 kms.

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                            • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                              Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post
                              swelling is come down, pain reduced. have a ride of about 600kms tomorrow hope things fall in right places and ride happens.
                              Well Well Well.. the biking season has started with enough of monsoon this year. Ride safe

                              Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
                              now that you say it and now that i think about it, indeed sometimes i have observed hardly any gear changing sound at certain RPM(s)..at high gears it anyway hardly makes any pronounced sound at pretty much any RPMs, but even shifting the low gears have sounded very soft at certain RPMs.. but i never noted the said RPMs, but the fact definitely was noted in my mind but till now i just assumed it to be one of those few random things..well now i suppose fewer things are random..will get back to you on the exact RPM that this happens in my bike.


                              yep do that

                              you offering me one ?

                              we already got a smaller version. dont you think so ? :O

                              exactly.



                              it wasnt me asking about vibes, it was siddharth..but anyway, yeah, that naturally buzzing-type vibes aren't an issue with me..infact i kinda like it, makes me feel i am riding some serious shit 8)



                              so far the only DIY stuff i have done, lol...

                              after that minor cornering crash i had a few weeks ago, one of the bolts on the right side of my fairing has been perpetually somewhat lose (doesnt fully tighten ever)..well, not lose, just not as tight as it should be/used to be/as the corresponding bolt on the left side is...makes no vibes or anything while riding at any RPM or speed though. that's why i didnt even notice it until a few days ago while tightening up all the nuts and bolts.

                              for that bolt, check if the threads on the inner side of the fairing are broken. what you described may happen if the threads have threads have taken a beating in the fall.

                              1600 kms
                              Aahh.. relatively new 'eh. Let it settle-in for a couple of thousand kms more.
                              SVCing done two weeks back. changed the air filter/oil filter. a complete flush of the existing mineral oil and changed back to Yamalube SS. But the downside you can say, i'm not really loving the response the bike gives. It's a tad bit blunt than the sharp stuff mineral oil offered. Strange but true. gonna change to mineral next SVCing again. The bike felt little more aggressive comparatively smoother in rev's than SS.. Will have to try FS in winter's . Any inputs ideas on this ? BTW 21K on the ODO
                              Last edited by Sorcerer's apprentice; 09-06-2013, 09:00 PM.
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                              To all those how-to-run-in-the-bike-oh-it's-so-confusing. Here's an advice.
                              Read and follow the OWNER's Manual. Keep it simple.. Old School technique will do more good than harm your bike

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                              • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                                yes yes we have a mini superbike ourselves

                                i'd have to remove the fairing to check its inner threads, right ?

                                interesting to hear from you of better performance using mineral oil in the R15 :O

                                and yes my bike is just 8 weeks old now.

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