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  • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

    Originally posted by Ivin View Post
    It is . Mine lasted 22k kms on my R15 v2. Maybe you are applying rear brake more than front, or maybe you are keeping your foot on the brake pedal while riding, or in worst cases, the alignment might have been wrong. If you have the pics of the old brake pads, we could look into something here.
    Yes I apply more brake but both the brakes at the same ratio! And today I saw the front brake pads.. It's also having only few life left! I didn't change the pads till now! Will upload a picture when I change them.. What's the actual life of the R15's brake pads though?

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    • Re: First problem, finally!

      Originally posted by PrinceCruise View Post
      Need some assistance here folks!

      Bike: Yamaha R15-S
      Bought: May 2016
      KMs Run so far: 4500 KMs / 6 months.
      3 free services done.

      Alright so, the bike is running like a dream so far, couldn't complain. However since it's last free service(3rd) which was done at 4100 KMs around 20 days ago, I constantly hear a hissing sound first when I start the bike and then when I run it on low speed. Its like something's continuously rubbing on something.

      There were some vibrations as well so I checked and tightened all the loose screws which the SVC guys kept loose, but this hissing sound seemed to be coming from somewhere else but i could sense it from the front portion of the bike itself, like somewhere below the speedo.

      Some 30 minutes ago, I did a little test, I rode for some 500 meters near my house, tried to not apply front brake too hard but had to apply both brakes because there was too much traffic. Once I parked my bike, I touched the front disc plate, it was burning hot! The rear disc plate was just okay, not really hot. This makes me wondering if there's something wrong with front pads or plate. There are lines all over both the disc plates which seemed natural to me so far but now I'm concerned. I couldn't really see deep into the pads to see their condition.

      Attaching 2 poorly clicked pics of front plate for someone to see if they look okay or not -

      [ATTACH]222763[/ATTACH][ATTACH]222762[/ATTACH]

      I'm a little concerned, let me know what should be the next step or anything else to be checked?

      Thanks.
      The hissing sound is mostly from the relieve valve of the fuel pump or the FID (fast idle)system. Not to worry.
      Plates will get hot and lines are normal but if they are getting too hot then I would suggest pressure cleaning of the pads using water. Could remove the dirt causing this.

      CHEERS
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      Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS fi( sold)
      Bajaj Discover 112(2006)
      Yamaha R15 V2(2011)
      Yezdi 250 model B(1978)
      RX 135 4 speed(1998)
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      • Re: First problem, finally!

        Originally posted by black asp View Post
        The hissing sound is mostly from the relieve valve of the fuel pump or the FID (fast idle)system. Not to worry.
        Plates will get hot and lines are normal but if they are getting too hot then I would suggest pressure cleaning of the pads using water. Could remove the dirt causing this.

        CHEERS
        Thanks for the reply man. [MENTION=60133]black asp[/MENTION]

        Your words are a relief however let me tell you, till last 2 3 weeks I didn't notice this hissing sound ever, thus I was concerned. It may have been there but now its considerably louder, so much so that you can hear it over throttle.
        Did you face this as well with your R15 or have seen this before with someone else?


        Also, I'm aware of the plates being hot after a ride that's why I never bothered but as I said, it was just a 500 meters ride with low speed and less front braking and the front plate was hot like I've come from a long long ride. Well it makes sense what you said about dust/dirt on the pads, I'll get 'em cleaned today.

        Will using soap water + normal water on plates and pads be okay to clean?

        Regards.

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        • Re: First problem, finally!

          Originally posted by PrinceCruise View Post
          Thanks for the reply man. @black asp

          Your words are a relief however let me tell you, till last 2 3 weeks I didn't notice this hissing sound ever, thus I was concerned. It may have been there but now its considerably louder, so much so that you can hear it over throttle.
          Did you face this as well with your R15 or have seen this before with someone else?


          Also, I'm aware of the plates being hot after a ride that's why I never bothered but as I said, it was just a 500 meters ride with low speed and less front braking and the front plate was hot like I've come from a long long ride. Well it makes sense what you said about dust/dirt on the pads, I'll get 'em cleaned today.

          Will using soap water + normal water on plates and pads be okay to clean?

          Regards.
          ya its there, my "gurus" say its decompressor some say its FID some say its fuel pump. as long as there is no increment in sound iam fine by it. In my case the hiss comes only at idling so could be both FID and decompressor. This happened at 40000 kms when i had to open up my engine to check if any thing is busted or not thanks to the POS oil Motul 300V. Ater i reassembled the engine this noise is there its 1.18 kms lakh now stopped bothering about it long back.
          My suggestion untill your bike starts letting out smoke or sounds akin to an auto rickshaw there is no need to worry provided you change oils and other consumable regularly.
          If you go by the way of "use costly use less frequently" then you are looking at long repair bills as this is india and using expensive and unrequired things is like feeding desi ghee to a dog.
          Soap water is just fine not to worry.


          P.S. I love dogs, Had 3 strays back home and i love my house owner's mudhol so blue cross, PETA etc guys please excuse.

          CHEERS
          Yamaha RXZ 5 speed (sold)
          Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS fi( sold)
          Bajaj Discover 112(2006)
          Yamaha R15 V2(2011)
          Yezdi 250 model B(1978)
          RX 135 4 speed(1998)
          Yamaha Rajdoot 350(1989-unrestored)
          Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS-i (2011)Crashed and sold :'(
          Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS-i (2009-Fastest Indian)

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          • Re: First problem, finally!

            Originally posted by black asp View Post
            ya its there, my "gurus" say its decompressor some say its FID some say its fuel pump. as long as there is no increment in sound iam fine by it. In my case the hiss comes only at idling so could be both FID and decompressor. This happened at 40000 kms when i had to open up my engine to check if any thing is busted or not thanks to the POS oil Motul 300V. Ater i reassembled the engine this noise is there its 1.18 kms lakh now stopped bothering about it long back.
            My suggestion untill your bike starts letting out smoke or sounds akin to an auto rickshaw there is no need to worry provided you change oils and other consumable regularly.
            If you go by the way of "use costly use less frequently" then you are looking at long repair bills as this is india and using expensive and unrequired things is like feeding desi ghee to a dog. Soap water is just fine not to worry.
            Hah! Thanks for quick reply bruh! I'm just back after a wash of the bike, made sure to have the pads cleaned using the jet, not too rough though.

            I see your point, I'm not the one to pamper my bikes, its just that I've been given opportunity to work from home in my project since I got the bike coincidentally, so the office travel has been reduced to practically nil and being in Pune I can confirm I do NOT want to ride in peak hours. Also I work for around 12 hours a day so less time to ride but I make sure to give the bike proper doses of quick 200KMs rides over weekends and quick 30-40KMs rides every other day. I usually use every penny out of my bikes.

            I'm not bothered now about the sound unless something major comes up, fingers crossed. I'll have to check for the vibrations though, something the SVC guys have left loose inside.

            P.S. I love dogs, Had 3 strays back home and i love my house owner's mudhol so blue cross, PETA etc guys please excuse.
            A few stray cats in my building have been focking up my seat because apparently out of all the 50 2-wheelers they love to cuddle and sleep on my bike's seat at night. Even if I put the bike cover on, those damn kittens will make their way from inside and in the end, every morning I see my seat covered with scratches and a few scratches on tank.
            I had to put on a new seat cover, which they ruined also, and I now tuck in the bike cover in the seat to block their way, every morning I see it pulled a little, well screw these little fothermuckers!
            At one point, I was considering poisoning them but I'm not that kind of person. But this has been another real problem, I don't wanna beat up those kittens or hurt them, I just can't find a way to keep my seat and tank from getting ruined.


            Regards.

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            • Re: First problem, finally!

              Originally posted by PrinceCruise View Post

              A few stray cats in my building have been focking up my seat because apparently out of all the 50 2-wheelers they love to cuddle and sleep on my bike's seat at night. Even if I put the bike cover on, those damn kittens will make their way from inside and in the end, every morning I see my seat covered with scratches and a few scratches on tank.
              I had to put on a new seat cover, which they ruined also, and I now tuck in the bike cover in the seat to block their way, every morning I see it pulled a little, well screw these little fothermuckers!
              At one point, I was considering poisoning them but I'm not that kind of person. But this has been another real problem, I don't wanna beat up those kittens or hurt them, I just can't find a way to keep my seat and tank from getting ruined.


              Regards.
              Get milk feed them and bring them home. You will love those guys. As it is said if you can't defeat your enemies join hands with them . Did the same worked. My house was a zoo 3 stray mutts and 4 felines. Even remember finding a kitten occasionally under the tank over the cylinder head of my yezdi.
              In the mean time try these type of seat covers. They are cat resistant.Click image for larger version

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              CHEERS
              Last edited by black asp; 11-25-2016, 07:28 PM.
              Yamaha RXZ 5 speed (sold)
              Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS fi( sold)
              Bajaj Discover 112(2006)
              Yamaha R15 V2(2011)
              Yezdi 250 model B(1978)
              RX 135 4 speed(1998)
              Yamaha Rajdoot 350(1989-unrestored)
              Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS-i (2011)Crashed and sold :'(
              Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS-i (2009-Fastest Indian)

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              • Re: First problem, finally!

                Originally posted by black asp View Post
                Get milk feed them and bring them home. You will love those guys. As it is said if you can't defeat your enemies join hands with them . Did the same worked. My house was a zoo 3 stray mutts and 4 felines. Even remember finding a kitten occasionally under the tank over the cylinder head of my yezdi.
                In the mean time try these type of seat covers. They are cat resistant.

                CHEERS
                Unfortunately that's not an option, for 2 main reasons -
                1. I'm single and live alone in a flat, not really in the best position to take care of any kind of pet.
                2. I'm allergic to the feline hair, not much to put me in danger but constant sneezing takes a toll.

                I feed those stray cats milk regularly and looks like this is the reason they've grown comfortable around things which smell like me.

                The last seat with foam I put, the guy told me its cat proof, but it turned out to be not. But thanks, I'll check for the seat cover like you have. That's the only proper option I seem to have right now.


                Regards.

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                • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                  Hello friends, need an advice from you guys about a Good LED headlight for the bike! Suggest me some good one please...
                  Thank You!
                  Ride safe!

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                  • Re: First problem, finally!

                    Originally posted by black asp View Post
                    let's categorize r15 models into 2 categories.
                    category A- 2008-2011 v1 and 2011-2014 v2s
                    3 phase electricals hence compatible wiring harness ECU(interchangeable between category A v1 and category A v2 but not the same)
                    No lambda sensor open loop Fi
                    bigger RR(in size and interchangeable between category A v1 and Category A v2)
                    Engine parts are horribly expensive but awesome in quality(most of them imported).

                    Category B-2015 onwards V2s and R15 s

                    single phase electricals hence RR unit wiring is cheap
                    lambda sensor and different ECU(ecu is cheap too must be some indian make like minda etc )
                    parts rates going bajaj way and hopefully quality is going down the same way.

                    In short ,when someone says quality in present gen yamahas, i would like to say it can't be taken as face value any more.

                    CHEERS
                    Excellent mate. So, to keep it simple, the old ones were better quality items with 3 phase stator and a open loop system. The newer ones have a single phase RR, tiny inside, big outside, plus with a closed loop system. But most mechanically I reckon there isn't much of a change. Inputs, as always, welcome.

                    Originally posted by PrinceCruise View Post
                    Need some assistance here folks!

                    Bike: Yamaha R15-S
                    Bought: May 2016
                    KMs Run so far: 4500 KMs / 6 months.
                    3 free services done.

                    Thanks.
                    If you did mention, hissing, I'd suggest you to check your front brakes. Front brake lines do produce a kind of hissing sound when applied. And your issue of brake disc getting hot pretty much quicker, the dots align a jammed front brake (your brake lever) piston or a caliper piston getting. What I would recommend is a simple check, by rotating your front wheels if you can, the rotation should complete with least resistance, if you feel it's excessively tight. While doing this apply your front brake for a second and then try spinning the wheels again, again, there shouldn't be any hindrance in the rotation of the wheel whatsoever. If you observe the wheel grabbing or the wheel suddenly becomes tight, we have either a master cylinder piston or a caliper piston sticking.

                    P.S. Discretion advised.

                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                    The girl said, 'NO!'


                    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                    THE END

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                    • Re: First problem, finally!

                      Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                      Excellent mate. So, to keep it simple, the old ones were better quality items with 3 phase stator and a open loop system. The newer ones have a single phase RR, tiny inside, big outside, plus with a closed loop system. But most mechanically I reckon there isn't much of a change. Inputs, as always, welcome.



                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Yeah rest all are mechanically same.
                      Whatever came back in 2008 is still continuing

                      CHEERS
                      Yamaha RXZ 5 speed (sold)
                      Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS fi( sold)
                      Bajaj Discover 112(2006)
                      Yamaha R15 V2(2011)
                      Yezdi 250 model B(1978)
                      RX 135 4 speed(1998)
                      Yamaha Rajdoot 350(1989-unrestored)
                      Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS-i (2011)Crashed and sold :'(
                      Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS-i (2009-Fastest Indian)

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                      • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                        Originally posted by Santhu Shyam View Post
                        Hello friends, need an advice from you guys about a Good LED headlight for the bike! Suggest me some good one please...
                        Thank You!
                        Ride safe!
                        Any idea on this friends?

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                        • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                          Originally posted by manub View Post
                          Hi guys, I was constantly getting the engine error signal and it was a 46 error code. I changed the batteries but still the issue was there. I went to the SVC and they told it was a rr unit use and I had to replace it. Had a word with the manager who told that the v2 faces this issue as the rr unit is placed in a shielded area where there is little or no airflow which increases the temperature of the rr unit and it finally goes kaput. He has placed the rr unit in a different place now. Anybody else faced this issue?
                          Even I faced the same issue in my R15s. New one cost 825 INR and its version 1.0 . Factory RR unit came with silicone potted and new one I could spot few more resistors and thermal conductive potting. Lets see how long this version last. There is absolutely no flow in that area. I also got chance to fix the visor rattle permanently.
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                          • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                            Hi All,
                            There a few questions that I have regarding my R15 v2.0 and needed some help in finding answers to that .
                            A quick background of the bike , its a 2015 July model,has done close to 25K kms till now.
                            I started facing some issues with the handle as it was jamming at around 18K kms,when I took it to the ASC (Vinayak Yamaha in bangalore),they told that there is a problem with the cone set of the handle and it needs a replacement (Gave an estimate of about 5K rs).I didnt want to spend that much money then and asked for an alternative solution ,and he told that he can get it polished and it will be as good as new,and all that for only rs 1400. I took the second deal and from then on its a downhill ride for me.The bike started giving problems after a mere 100kms and since then I have visited the ASC about 5 times,but all they did was charge me but my problem was not resolved.
                            In all frustration ,I took my bike to IndiMotrad in bangalore,and still the same result ran good for 200kms and then problems. I am now looking to replace the cone set entirely,since I have a trip coming up in december, hence this post .
                            Right now as I write this this post ,I am not at all confident with my bike and actually feel afraid riding it.
                            Now coming to the questions.
                            1: Has anyone here ever faced a cone set problem in an R15,and is it normal to occur at this mileage?
                            2:Any one from bangalore ;who has faced this issue and got it success fully resolved;could you please guide me to the appropriate mechanic/garage/ASC in bangalore, I don't quite trust the Vinayak Yamaha guys ?
                            3:I am quite confused about the cost too,the ASC guys say it will cost close to 5k ,and my local mechanic tells he will do it with original parts for 2.5k?He says that he gets it cheaper since he gets it tax free;is there any truth in it?
                            PS: This is a very desperate situation I am in . Any Help will be highly appreciated .Thanks in advance.

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                            • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                              Originally posted by Santhu Shyam View Post
                              Any idea on this friends?
                              IF you are willing to spend, X-treme Ultinon LED Car Lamp 12953BWX2 | Philips. They will set you back close to 12K though. But its worth it.

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                              Originally posted by Satyajit Samantray View Post
                              Hi All,
                              There a few questions that I have regarding my R15 v2.0 and needed some help in finding answers to that .
                              A quick background of the bike , its a 2015 July model,has done close to 25K kms till now.
                              I started facing some issues with the handle as it was jamming at around 18K kms,........
                              My cone set was ruined at 8000 kms. They aren't supposed to be polished and reused. They are to be replaced. Replace them.

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                              • Re: Yamaha YZF-R15 version 2.0

                                Originally posted by Santhu Shyam View Post
                                Yes I apply more brake but both the brakes at the same ratio! And today I saw the front brake pads.. It's also having only few life left! I didn't change the pads till now! Will upload a picture when I change them.. What's the actual life of the R15's brake pads though?
                                There is no fixed life of a brake pad brother. It will depend on how you ride. I replaced my rear one at 10K coz it was worn out, The front one had more than half life left, so did not replace it. now the bike is 19.5K kms and both the front and rear will do a few more thousand kms, so planning to replace them on the next service.

                                If you ride mostly in crowded cities, where you face traffic jams and stop and go traffic, you will use your brakes more and the life will be less.
                                If you ride on open highways, you will cover a lot more miles and will use no brakes while cruising, so the brake pads will last very very long.
                                For mixed riding City + highway 10-12K kms should be the average life of a brake pads. (More experienced riders - Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong).
                                I would like to thank my legs for supporting me, my arms for being always by my side and my fingers; I could always count on them.

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