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  • Is anyone facing issues while down-shifting the gears?

    I noticed that the gear changer/lever (don't know the technical name for that) tends to get stuck.. Is that Bajaj DTS-i oil good? I thought i'll put in Motul in second service but i guess i'll do it very soon.

    Secondly, i think that the bike is vibrating a lot.. and the handle grips are a pain in the ass after some time of riding..
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    • Originally posted by drrajsodhi View Post
      Today in the morning removed the cover from the Duke. Was cleaning the bike and to my shock found green patches of green colour on the right side of radiator cover and on right side of radiator. Didn't know what to think-so calmed my self and tried to find the culprit for it. On looking under the panel on right side of fuel tank, i found a end pipe hanging all in green colour. Then it came to my mind that maybe this pipe is for coolant overflow. KTM recommends filling the coolant in between MAX-MIN. I had filled it more than MAX and i hope the over filled part was thrown out because after that didn't see any more green patches(coolant).
      Maybe this will help some one.
      Drive Safe
      I have done the same mistake of overfilling the coolant... i thought the coolant level was low and added some more... not more than 100ml was added that the container was full to brim... which means it was over the max mark now... i shaked the bike a little to see that the coolant level reduced and thought the problem is over... its only when i rode the bike after that i realised in a few minutes that excess coolant was spewing out from the same place where you suggested and it was splattering all over the engine, till the rear wheel, and offcourse my shoes... i stopped and cleaned these parts with wet cloth... moved on to realise the same thing happening again... i was thinking of going to the service centre to get the coolant level reduced, but the overflow didnt happen after 2-3 rides... im assuming that the coolant level is now balanced...
      this was my first time trying to assess and do something with my bike, and it seems i failed... it can be scary to see your bike spit green venom when you stop at a signal... more for folks around you
      anyways, my learning... i will rely on the service centre to add any fluids and do such thing, than trying myself...

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      • Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
        Did you find the oil? When I went to pick the oil from the Motul dealer in Chennai I found that he had plenty in stock.
        I found the oil but the Sales representative can not give me an exact date on when he can deliver it. Still waiting for his call.

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        • Hello Guys,
          I am planning to take my duke for first service this Saturday. Can any one who serviced their Duke in Bangalore tell me what engine oil the service center puts in.
          It seems every one is using Motul 7100 20W50. I was planning on getting Motul 300v 15W50. Is there any reason why I should not go for 300V.
          And also will the service center guys let me use 15W50 as it is not specified grade.

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          • Originally posted by sonu611 View Post
            Hello Guys,
            I am planning to take my duke for first service this Saturday. Can any one who serviced their Duke in Bangalore tell me what engine oil the service center puts in.
            It seems every one is using Motul 7100 20W50. I was planning on getting Motul 300v 15W50. Is there any reason why I should not go for 300V.
            And also will the service center guys let me use 15W50 as it is not specified grade.
            The manufacturer recommends, 20w50 grade oil. Is there any specific reason you wish to use 15w50? People choose Motul 7100 simply because it is one of the best available synthetic oils of the specified grade.
            I guess both oils have the same viscosity at engine operating temperature, so both should be fine, however, I'd still want to stick to what the manufacturer has specified. If you know of any other benefits of going with 15W rather than 20W, let us know.
            Four strokes move my body, two strokes move my soul.
            1988 RE Std 350 (Bull)
            1998 RX 135 4-speed (Stella)
            2012 KTM Duke 200
            2012 Ninja 650

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            • Originally posted by shrek View Post
              The manufacturer recommends, 20w50 grade oil. Is there any specific reason you wish to use 15w50? People choose Motul 7100 simply because it is one of the best available synthetic oils of the specified grade.
              I guess both oils have the same viscosity at engine operating temperature, so both should be fine, however, I'd still want to stick to what the manufacturer has specified. If you know of any other benefits of going with 15W rather than 20W, let us know.
              From what I came to know, motul300V is better than 7100 (double ester vs ester) and 300v is only available in 15w50. Just thought that 300V being a better oil will be better for the bike. I could be wrong though.

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              Last edited by sonu611; 04-12-2012, 07:20 PM.

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              • We have been using 300v 15W50 on our P220s for ages. And it doesn't matter what oil you use as long as it is xW50 where x <= 20.

                Why is this? Read the http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...gine-oils.html thread
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                Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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                • I do know that 15w50 and 20w50 won't make a difference in Bangalore climate All thanks to this forum. Just wanted to know if the ASC guys will put it in the bike. Anyway will call them tomorrow and find out for sure.

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                  • Motor Oil Grading

                    The SAE classifications characterizes the viscosity at low and high temperature of the lubricant. The grade is given by two numbers separated by the letter W (meaning winter).

                    The first number, followed by W represents the low temperature viscosity, 5W, 10W, 15W... the lower this number, the more fluid at low temperature the oils, the easier the engine starts.

                    The second number gives the high temperature viscosity: 30, 40, 50. The higher this number, the more viscous the oil when hot.

                    Hope this is helpful

                    BTW KTM Recommends :
                    1. Bajaj DTSi 10000.
                    2. Motul 7100
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                    • Originally posted by sonu611 View Post
                      I do know that 15w50 and 20w50 won't make a difference in Bangalore climate All thanks to this forum. Just wanted to know if the ASC guys will put it in the bike. Anyway will call them tomorrow and find out for sure.

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                      Not an issue. In fact, many times, Probiking SVCs themselves arrange the oil for you if you insist.
                      Also, since you are from Bangalore, you might want to read my old signature
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                      Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                      Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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                      • Originally posted by sonu611 View Post
                        I do know that 15w50 and 20w50 won't make a difference in Bangalore climate All thanks to this forum. Just wanted to know if the ASC guys will put it in the bike. Anyway will call them tomorrow and find out for sure.
                        A friend of mine, also Duke owner, went for first service at Thane workshop, the ASC guys there were skeptical about Motul 7100 (which he carried with him), and they called the Ghatkopar ASC guys to confirm that it is suitable. They tried to sell him the regular dtsi oil on the pretext that "sir, Motul se clutch plate jaldi khatam ho jayega. yeh sab race ke liye hai."

                        My friend stuck to his guns, and the other ASC guys also had no problem with using Motul.

                        I would suggest taking the phone numbers of the Workshop Manager of the largest ASC in Bangalore, just in case the ASC you visit denies you. I doubt very much that they will make trouble, as quite a few Dukers have gone with Motul, and they must be used to seeing us walking in with two cans of oil, and in my case, chain lube as well.
                        Four strokes move my body, two strokes move my soul.
                        1988 RE Std 350 (Bull)
                        1998 RX 135 4-speed (Stella)
                        2012 KTM Duke 200
                        2012 Ninja 650

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                        • Originally posted by pawan_pullarwar View Post
                          I am also experiencing this sound, many have already reported, seems like common problem, still would like to hear what KTM says.
                          I wouldn't say its a problem. I had my Duke at the SVC for a day. They did check a lot of things. And then compared it with 2 other Dukes.

                          Cold start - No sound
                          Hot Engine - Yes sound
                          Result: Duke Characteristic.
                          Action item: Saturday there is a workshop conducted by BAL/KTM at Probiking Bangalore and I am invited. Will show them this and let them have a look. I am also expecting few more Dukes to be present. Will check with each one of them as and when they come in (cos the engine would be HOT HOT)

                          Originally posted by sonu611 View Post
                          Hello Guys,
                          I am planning to take my duke for first service this Saturday. Can any one who serviced their Duke in Bangalore tell me what engine oil the service center puts in.
                          It seems every one is using Motul 7100 20W50. I was planning on getting Motul 300v 15W50. Is there any reason why I should not go for 300V.
                          And also will the service center guys let me use 15W50 as it is not specified grade.
                          Service center guys "may" tell you tall/shallow stories about using other grade oils. 15W50/20W50 shouldn't matter for Bangalore climate. I am just reiterating what many other experts have already quoted.

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                          Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                          Not an issue. In fact, many times, Probiking SVCs themselves arrange the oil for you if you insist.
                          Also, since you are from Bangalore, you might want to read my old signature
                          \/ \/ \/ \/

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                          • Booked my Duke today expecting delivery by tmmrw but would have to skip it till sunday!!!

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                            • Originally posted by scbra View Post
                              anyways, my learning... i will rely on the service centre to add any fluids and do such thing, than trying myself...
                              .
                              you can add the coolant yourself. If you want to be more accurate, just put one end of a thin pipe till the mark of MAX inside the tank from upside and other end on ground-rest gravity will do the trick. The coolant above the Max level will be drained out.

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                              • That's it! That's the reason why coolant spills off. If one keeps the level at half a cm above MIN, there should be no spill under normal riding conditions.
                                Will keep in mind now. Thanks

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