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  • Originally posted by devil_rider View Post
    The wobbling is happening on high speeds only i.e. 125kmph plus.

    Wouldn't alignment issue also affect the ride at slower speeds.

    Anyways i'll be going to KTM SC tomorrow to check that and other couple of issues out.. Will post about it tomorrow..

    Thanks for the help..

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    • Originally posted by devil_rider View Post
      Wouldn't alignment issue also affect the ride at slower speeds.
      It should. But it would be very noticeable on high speeds.

      Do tell us what the service centre says. Could be something we need to keep an eye on too.
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      • Originally posted by spiralbrain View Post
        1. The Engineer from Bajaj inspected the bike and I insisted the kind man to test ride my bike. He said everything was ok but I should not rev the bike hard till about 2000-3000Kms

        2. Total cost of the service was Rs 196 as I had sourced the oil myself.
        1. Restricted to 7500 rpm till 1000 km and then no ripping till2-3k?
        Why advertise 0-60 and 0-100 times if you don't want ppl to rev hard?

        2. Where did you source the oil from?

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        • Originally posted by sonu611 View Post
          Good news the fork seal will be.replaced under warranty will get the bike tomorrow.
          From what I came to know this is one problem common with used forks. Dust/pebbles kicked up by tyres are sucked into the fork causing damage to seal

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          Sonu bro - 2 things I failed to comprehend

          1) Used forks?

          2) dust/pebbles kicked up by the tires are sucked into the fork? - Can you elaborate on this please?

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          • Originally posted by Shubz View Post
            Sonu bro - 2 things I failed to comprehend

            1) Used forks?

            2) dust/pebbles kicked up by the tires are sucked into the fork? - Can you elaborate on this please?
            He means USD forks

            For the second point he means the tiny dirt particles might get in the way of the fork action since the fork seal is near to the tyre... ideally this should not be a problem as in USD forks, the sealing is of a pretty high quality (as with every other SBK having USD forks), but if that's the reason, then I guess, the fork sealent is at a fault here
            Twist your wrist and feel the shift!!

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            • Originally posted by csajal View Post
              He means USD forks

              For the second point he means the tiny dirt particles might get in the way of the fork action since the fork seal is near to the tyre... ideally this should not be a problem as in USD forks, the sealing is of a pretty high quality (as with every other SBK having USD forks), but if that's the reason, then I guess, the fork sealent is at a fault here
              Oh ok. Thanks Sajal. for a moment I skipped a heart beat when the word "used" was mentioned.

              Secondly you are right about the sealing. I don't think the USD fork seals are that flimsy to allow dust and pebbles through them.

              So that "engineer" was only misleading our bro!

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              • Originally posted by spiralbrain View Post
                I got my first service from Kirti Nagar Delhi today, after gulping 1.5L of Motul 7100 FS oil it feels different. There is no change in the engine noise however the bike revs faster. There was a Bajaj engineer who had flown in specially from Pune to take a look at a Duke. The guy claimed that the coolant was mixing with engine oil. The engineer did not find any evidence of that.

                List of jobs done on my bike:

                Chain cleaned and Lubed
                Air filter sprayed with pressurized air
                Brake pads removed and cleaned with sand paper
                Suspension moved to the softest possible setting(my request)
                Head Oil leakage ( the head cover was removed, cleaned and re fitted with a black sealing compound)
                Engine oil changed to Motul FS
                Washing and drying
                ECU error codes checked
                Service meter reset

                The Engineer from Bajaj inspected the bike and I insisted the kind man to test ride my bike. He said everything was ok but I should not rev the bike hard till about 2000-3000Kms
                I asked him about the tappet noise and he said it was generic to this engine. He said the clearances had been kept high due to the high reving nature of the engine.

                I will wait for some time before I can see the head oil leakage fix.

                Total cost of the service was Rs 196 as I had sourced the oil myself.
                spiralbrain how was the overall experience at this svc centre.After the non professional attitude of Suman Bajaj Noida i am looking forward to get my bike serviced at Kirti nagar.
                From where did you buy the Motul FS and were the svc centre guys reluctant to use it?

                Safety doesn't happen by accident.....ride safe ride longer

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                • m@v still having problems with the engine light?

                  suman bajaj people wanted to help but i thought they didnt know how to!

                  they didnt even know how to clean the radiator fins and internal gaps of the engine! and they took it for a test ride 4 times! i know duke is a fine bike but still!! that is not your bike!

                  they said their staff has gone for proper training in ktm and will be back this week. what i failed to understand was that is the staff which is servicing the dukes there right now not even trained to service our bikes??

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                  • Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post
                    138 Kmph? Ok, where is the figure taken from? If it's KTM quoted, why can't it be a Test bench figure taken by people sitting inside a comfortably cooled AC room with all the optimum temperature figures in control to hit the benchmark figure?

                    If it's vouched by someone here, why can't it be a down hill? Ever seen videos of R15 V1.0 doing 159's & 160's in Youtube??
                    I can vouch for the 138kmph top speed on the KTM 200 DUKE. On a long straight road. I really didn't check the weather for "optimum" temperature figures. And the crouching does help a bit but alas there is wind blast.

                    And that top speed IS KTM Quoted. And if you search around just a teeeeeeeeeeeeeny bit, you may just find a video to prove it. And not downhill, but on a straight road. In the heat of the day!!! ...Very adverse temperature conditions I should think!!!
                    Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure.

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                    • Originally posted by devesh38 View Post
                      yesterday I went for chennai meet with GIR team on ECR road. From Utthandi Toll booth we (around 100bikes) rode to mahabalipuram in 2x2 formation. We were cruising at 60-70kmph. The console showed 58kmpl. That's the highest ever shown by my console. Previously it had shown 54kmpl has highest. I think 60-70kmph is the sweet spot for Duke in terms of kmpl.


                      So in case of long rides where possibility of finding the petrol pump is scarce, you know what speed you should run your duke.

                      But the way i ride it gives on an average 40kmpl, which is also very good.
                      Yo glad to hear mate... Infact i was part of the GIRT @ Chennai and even i had the indicator reading ~60 kpl.

                      Originally posted by Rkynitin View Post
                      Hi guys,
                      I'm from hyderabad.
                      Purchased ktm duke last month , did a first service at 1100km 3 days back( friday 6th april). As there was some noise while hittin the rare brakes, i had asked the servicing person to get it fixed and he did oiling for it. May be due to too much of oiling, while, i was returning home from the service center, when i tried to hit the rare brake it did not work and and i went and hit the divider. Have been very fortunate enough to escape with injuries. Now im worried about getting my bike repaired .
                      The parts damaged are
                      1) Rear brake lever broke , I mean the small black rubber came apart.
                      2) Right side Leg guard bent towards the bike engine.
                      3) Front number plate and the one which holds the plate broke.

                      Guys Am new to this community.
                      Please help me with the spares availability in India.
                      How much does it cost?

                      Thanks guys for a community specially for bikes
                      and Sorry for startin my first post with a bad one(accident).
                      Sory to hear bro... ride safe... wear proper riding gears

                      Originally posted by devil_rider View Post
                      Hey guys.. i've done more that 1300kms on my Duke..

                      The problem is the handle grip tends to be painful on long rides..

                      Secondly i feel that the bike is vibrating a lot..

                      Any clue
                      Yes it does and it does again ... but even with that, the feeling is awesome

                      Originally posted by devesh38 View Post
                      I am thinking of fabricating the main stand for the bike. Does anyone here know the dimensions of the pipe length and bend angles? or better has a CAD model.?

                      Otherwise, I will go to SVC this weekend and measure the dimensions.

                      I think the stand for Ninja will also do the job nicely.
                      Hi, even m frm chennai, if at all u get to know of a good "main stand for duke". Please do let me know... would be helpful
                      Originally posted by devil_rider View Post
                      I asked SVC guys about the stand price.. they said that the stand would cost around 7500-8000 bucks..

                      does any1 know a good place to buy a stand at cheap price?

                      Also what's the minimum amount of fuel that one should have in KTM? The SVC guy told me to maintain 3L
                      1. The SVC guy told me its around 3-4k
                      2. Minimum fuel ... i rode the bike till the indicator said 0 km left to ride with the fuel bar showing empty :P:P... Even after that it made a couple of kms to the nearest bunk
                      Originally posted by devil_rider View Post
                      Is anyone facing issues while down-shifting the gears?

                      I noticed that the gear changer/lever (don't know the technical name for that) tends to get stuck.. Is that Bajaj DTS-i oil good? I thought i'll put in Motul in second service but i guess i'll do it very soon.

                      Secondly, i think that the bike is vibrating a lot.. and the handle grips are a pain in the ass after some time of riding..
                      It does get stuck... but now less frequent ... maybe cuz i got used to it... or because of the first service
                      And fyi, i used only bajaj dtsi 10000 oil during 1st service and bike is actually good even after that...

                      Vibrations are ofcourse there .. but i guess after wearing gloves i do not feel much... just some vibes at lower gears near the foot pegs...
                      Originally posted by Rajathslr View Post
                      Somebody pls tell me this is not true...

                      CBR250R vs R15 vs Duke 200 - Drag Race - YouTube
                      Who cares i own a duke and i love it... i could hardly ride it at over 110kmph ... and i always stay ahead of others at signals... so even if it is true... my 1.3L monster beats the 1.1L r15 in a drag and who the hell wants to have a comparo with the 1.7L machine...

                      Originally posted by Shubz View Post
                      What was surprising in the video? The R15 coming a distant 3rd??


                      Originally posted by devil_rider View Post
                      of course no dude but then u need to have some sort of stability at its top speed..

                      U can't just launch a bike with a top speed of 138 kmph and don't give stability to it, can u?
                      My questons here...
                      1. Were u wearing proper riding gears - ie, gloves, jackets and proper fit helmet...?
                      2. Are you capable of handling such speeds... any previous experience in other bikes at such a speed?
                      3. It is quoted as top speed and not comfortable + handling speed (however i do feel anywhere between 70 - 110 is a bliss when it comes to duke )
                      -Jyo-
                      @full throttle@

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                      • Whats the big deal with 138kmph anyways, My bike has done a max of 154 on speedo AND remains absolutely ROCK Solid at those speeds! So a bike which is 18 kg lighter and has 4 more horses and much phatter tires can certainly do 138 solidly with ease.

                        Anyways, coming to the wobbling bit, I assume it was headshake at those speeds. Complain about this at PBK, they need to set the cone-set right. It happens on the Ninja 250R too under some specific conditions. They will need a Torque Wrench to do it properly and the only 2 Probiking SVCs I know of which actually have a Torque Wrench are,
                        1. Auto Service, Banshankari, Bangalore
                        2. Sai Service, Karve Road, Pune

                        So @Devil Rider, you will either have to find a PBK which has a Torque Wrench in Mumbai OR Become a Guinea pig of the SVC OR Ride over to Pune to get this rectified.

                        When I read about the problem in the morning, I thought NV would mention this, but I guess he hasn't come online yet. Also, I didn't want to come across as a 'know it all' since owners on some other ownership threads are not so accomodating towards non owners giving their unbiased opinions.

                        Edit: Do check this post I wrote 1+ year back

                        Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                        Does this article help you in any way?

                        Answers.com - Why do you get Motorcycle speed wobbles

                        Especially the following para:
                        Although many things can contribute to starting a wobble, they generally won't happen if your steering head bearings are properly maintained. Test your steering head bearings by accelerating to 50 mph or so on a straight, smooth road on a calm day with no oncoming traffic. Close the throttle and remove your hands from the handlebars. If your bike's steering seems to pick a direction and stick there, your steering head bearings are too tight. If there is any wobble at all, your steering head bearings are too loose.
                        Last edited by antz.bin; 04-18-2012, 02:53 AM.
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                        • Originally posted by m@v View Post
                          spiralbrain how was the overall experience at this svc centre.After the non professional attitude of Suman Bajaj Noida i am looking forward to get my bike serviced at Kirti nagar.
                          From where did you buy the Motul FS and were the svc centre guys reluctant to use it?
                          I've heard the Noida service centre was pretty good, Kirti Nagar service center is good, They do take pain in fixing things. Also they are very good at listening to customers and are happy to answer questions.

                          I sourced the Motul from Motul directly as none of the dealers had the 7100 in stock. You can call the Delhi Motul rep on : 9999111087 his name is Mr Ashok Kumar Sales Executive Motul Delhi, He can give you the contact details of someone who can deliver the oil to your doorstep. The service guys will put any oil you choose as long as it is 20W50 and meets the specified ratings. 7100 is recommended by Bajaj in their DIY session.
                          Last edited by spiralbrain; 04-18-2012, 01:19 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by spiralbrain View Post
                            I sourced the Motul from Motul directly as none of the dealers had the 7100 in stock. You can call the Delhi Motul rep on : 9999111087 his name is Mr Ashok Kumar Sales Executive Motul Delhi, He can give you the contact details of someone who can deliver the oil to your doorstep. The service guys will put any oil you choose as long as it is 20W50 and meets the specified ratings. 7100 is recommended by Bajaj in their DIY session.
                            Thanks buddy.I will try to source out Motul asap so that i have it ready before service.

                            Safety doesn't happen by accident.....ride safe ride longer

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                            • Though I am registered with Xbhp since April'11, but was not very active. After spending a year without any Bike (my earlier possession Honda Stunner got stolen a year back) I bought myself the KTM Duke 200 a month back. I will not go on with a detailed review as that is already done by several others. However, I'll try to share some of my observations/experiences here (also some questions and doubts).

                              1. As I got my papers just 3 - 4 days back (Thanks to the RTO and all) I hardly got time to ride it fully. I was only taking it to office from home and back, that too keeping an eye for any 'Overactive' Police guy. So the ODO is just showing just 360 odd KMs. But 2 days back I found the coolant level surprisingly low (just a mm or two over the MIN mark). Overheating is an issue with this bike, and I faced it fully. Is the overheating culprit here? Is this observed by most of the other owners or I am the only one having a problem?
                              2. The TD bike I drove or my own bike at the time of delivery was showing pin point accuracy while changing gears and finding neutral. But now it’s all gone, though higher gears are OK. Only problem is to find neutral from 1st gear and shifting to 2nd gear from 1st gear. Also I am feeling that the acceleration and performance is not the same as it was with the TD bike and my own in new condition. Did anyone feel the same?
                              3. The ORVMs are only lookers offering only little help to the rider.
                              4. The pillion seat is not comfortable and after a short ride of 25Km and back with my wife; she has already threatened me that she'll leave me if I beg her to accompany me on that bike again.
                              5. Bike is feeling a bit rough already, though 15 days left to service and only 360 KMs on the ODO.
                              6. Rear brake is making screeching sounds though I clean them regularly (I mean twice weekly). No problem with the front brake though. Front one is performing great.
                              7. I get an OSD mileage between 20 - 40. 20 when I cross through a Sabji market on my way back to home (shortcut road) and I ride mainly in 1st and 2nd gear. 40 when I find a bit of open stretch to go to 4th gear and around 45 - 50 KMPH. I haven't tried the Tankful to Tankful method yet, but have a feeling that the OSD mileage is not that honest.
                              8. I think the chain is already loose as I am hearing the "Khat Khat" sound a lot now-a-days. Need to visit PBK even before my service interval.
                              9. Suspension is good, no point to complain.
                              10. I sometime feel that now the bike is not delivering the power smoothly. I sometimes feel that there is a bit of jerkiness while on 1st and 2nd gear. Also the engine braking is so much in 1st/2nd gear that the instant I release the accelerator fully engine brake is applied and the bike comes from 25/30 to 15/16. Need to press the clutch in those situations.

                              That’ll be all from my side for now. As I am from Kolkata, I’ll be very glad to know about other fellow Kolkatan Xbhpians and Duke Owners (we can assemble sometime soon). Waiting to hear back from you all and Thanks much for creating and keeping a Thread so informative.
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                              • Originally posted by AnupamOnWheels View Post
                                Though I am registered with Xbhp since April'11, but was not very active. After spending a year without any Bike (my earlier possession Honda Stunner got stolen a year back) I bought myself the KTM Duke 200 a month back. I will not go on with a detailed review as that is already done by several others. However, I'll try to share some of my observations/experiences here (also some questions and doubts).

                                1. As I got my papers just 3 - 4 days back (Thanks to the RTO and all) I hardly got time to ride it fully. I was only taking it to office from home and back, that too keeping an eye for any 'Overactive' Police guy. So the ODO is just showing just 360 odd KMs. But 2 days back I found the coolant level surprisingly low (just a mm or two over the MIN mark). Overheating is an issue with this bike, and I faced it fully. Is the overheating culprit here? Is this observed by most of the other owners or I am the only one having a problem?


                                This is a fresher bike, so you will feel the difference.
                                3. The ORVMs are only lookers offering only little help to the rider.

                                Try moving the RVM sticks 5-10 degrees outwards from its current position and then check.
                                4. The pillion seat is not comfortable and after a short ride of 25Km and back with my wife; she has already threatened me that she'll leave me if I beg her to accompany me on that bike again.
                                5. Bike is feeling a bit rough already, though 15 days left to service and only 360 KMs on the ODO.

                                Do the run-in carefully. Do not accelerate or brake suddenly as far as possible and once you have fresh oil in it, see the difference yourselves.
                                6. Rear brake is making screeching sounds though I clean them regularly (I mean twice weekly). No problem with the front brake though. Front one is performing great.

                                Could be that the rear brake pads are yet to bed in properly. But if the sound persists - go to the SVC

                                7. I get an OSD mileage between 20 - 40. 20 when I cross through a Sabji market on my way back to home (shortcut road) and I ride mainly in 1st and 2nd gear. 40 when I find a bit of open stretch to go to 4th gear and around 45 - 50 KMPH. I haven't tried the Tankful to Tankful method yet, but have a feeling that the OSD mileage is not that honest.
                                8. I think the chain is already loose as I am hearing the "Khat Khat" sound a lot now-a-days. Need to visit PBK even before my service interval.
                                Get the chain tightened a bit.
                                9. Suspension is good, no point to complain.
                                10. I sometime feel that now the bike is not delivering the power smoothly. I sometimes feel that there is a bit of jerkiness while on 1st and 2nd gear. Also the engine braking is so much in 1st/2nd gear that the instant I release the accelerator fully engine brake is applied and the bike comes from 25/30 to 15/16. Need to press the clutch in those situations.

                                Duke characteristics. Get used to them bro.
                                Anupam - Welcome to the forum. i will update my comments in bold wherever applicable. Safe riding!

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