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+1 Best explanation and true explanationOriginally posted by MACH50 View PostNot even concerned about pillions...................
The Duke 200 is one hell of an implying bike.............offers a seat only to those, who can sit very close to the rider - if not then they don't deserve a ride.

Duke 200 is a lifestyle motorcycle, not an autorickshaw where u can seat in N-number of passengers if u want.
A small pillion seat is also a warning mark for some clumsy people who stands by the road in hope to save some transport money and stops the biker for a free ride.
So finally Duke200's pillion seat is only for people who are family members,friends and are close to the heart.
................It is because no matter how small or uncomfortable the seat maybe, they wud adjust to it simply becoz they love the rider\owner of the vehicle and respects his choice.
Enough of pillion seating.
It fits in with the character of the bike.
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Maybe you are checking the pressure with hot tyres in the evening and cold tyres in the morning. This is the most probable explanation if it is happening to both tyresOriginally posted by joel_sherly View PostThe pressure in both of my Duke's tyres get reduced by 2 PSI overnight after filling !!!!!
Could it be a puncture but I seriously doubt it as both the wheels seem to have this problem..!!!
Suggest me with solutions please
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I would second that...air does expand & contract based on the weather...to fill the right recommended pressure..the ideal condition wld be fill it early in the morning while ensuring that the distance to the filling station is minimal...Originally posted by KTMgunner View PostMaybe you are checking the pressure with hot tyres in the evening and cold tyres in the morning. This is the most probable explanation if it is happening to both tyres
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But calling some1's machine shit and pathetic is not a way to put your word.Originally posted by extremerocker00 View PostYes, although the rear seat of Ninja looked like it would cause discomfort/scare to the pillion rider, it actually didnt. It was bigger than it appeared from the first look of it. Thus, it was anyway better than that of the Duke 200.
Since this thread isnt about comparisons, I wouldnt like to carry it on.
Regarding respect... of course I am giving a lot of respect to the fellow riders here.
. If you have noticed carefully, I always point out things about the bikes and not the riders. Some riders get sentimental (not surprisingly) on it and start writing not so respectful things about me. 
These forums are about writing things about the bikes and their parts and not on people. I am following the norms, but some people arent.
You can never respect a biker if you don't respect his bike.The best alarm clock is sunshine on chrome.
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Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Postyou guys forgot about fz .. it was my previous bike and its rear seat is smaller than duke's..yamaha have made the rear seat of fz bigger for 2012 models ..
best solution
..the pillion cant just sit casually .. they have to anticipate the rider's reactions and be prepared to be thrown back and front ..
how many of you feel the need for a full tyre hugger ??
currently the bike looks like a dirty pig after a ride in rain ..The pillion seat of DUke has been able to accommodate my father who weighs 72 kgs and is well built, my wife who is 6 months pregnant. Naturally i had to take extra care when riding with my wife and avoid bumps but just today while dropping her off to her office, i asked her regarding comfort and she said its fineOriginally posted by devil_rider View PostBut calling some1's machine shit and pathetic is not a way to put your word.
You can never respect a biker if you don't respect his bike.
. Now she has had on various occasion been a pillion rider on her brothers Karizma and Bullet 350 hence i can safely say its comfortable enough. Yes You do need to hold the rider or the grab rails, thats what they are for
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I have myself sat twice on pillion seat during test ride as i needed to know the comfort and never had any problems.
People like extreme rocker etc has to realize that Duke is Street Fighter/naked Sports , its not a cruiser or commuter bike hence its not supposed to offer extra comfortable pillion seats as well as its a European Product and they do have harder seat which are more ergonomic and good for the posture in long run.
We indians, are used to layer of extra foam on our seats, some Companies have homologue t he product to suit that like Hyundai, Maruti, but luckily many are still favouring the scientific/ ergonomic solution like Volkswagen, Audi, BMW.
Duke being a thorough European product has certain design considerations which are we are either not used to or are not good for us
Seat we being not used to and throttle being snatchy being not good for us.
Explanation- The snatchy Fi below and around 2000 RPM is not welcome feature anywhere but specifically so in India as in Europe you just use initial 2000 rpm to get the bike to speed and then you are generally in 5000-7000 rpm in city hence the KTM design team aim was to smoother response higher up rev range.
Also extremerocker and people who are like him on this forum, please refrain from doing comparisons without valid logic and refrain from using strong words like shitty etc until and unless product is a big failure or fails to do something which was promised by the bike maker.
A Word of caution to all Bikers regarding Duke , since it attracts the highest number of eyeballs this side of 5 lacs in India please always check after leaving bike unattended for tempered coolant, brake oil caps
. I have never been exposed to any problem like that but recently a crowd of 9-10 people gathered around my bike with all sorts of typical and some atypical questions, while answering one question, one guy even tried to sit down on my bike .
Also check the tire pressure while taking delivery as it can negatively affect balance if the pressure is not proper. After taking delivery of bike i didnot check the tire pressure but always felt front suspension bit hard and bike not that good during turns. I always thought well tires are not bed in plus i have not ridden on Indian roads from past 5 years but today came to know front was 30 and rear was 31
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I changed it to 25 front and 29 rear !
Also To all and specially for Rohan, i ahd a long discussion with my biker friends from UK who says that since the 10000 dtsi comes with the bike by default and its only 30% synthttic you do not need to change it, if you wish you can and certainly it will not cause any harm
but its not required and almost 99.99 % of riders do not do oil change before first service meaning almost all bikes have 10,000 DTSI for 1000 kms for sure and many even after that so its not a problem. Regarding engine glazing it will only occour with fully synthetic oil that too if you ride at higher rpm like 7k plus or at relatively lower rpm but for long enough to heat the engine to make radiator fan kick in , also if you lug the engine it will damage the bike more then revving up continuously for long.
You actually are required to rev the bike or hard accelerate the bike like Duke once after 4-5 minutes of riding so as enough pressure and heat is created to properly seal piston rings with cylinder.
Again it does not mean that we need to cross 7.5 K rpm and it never has to been done with in 4-5 minutes of cold start, bike engine needs proper warming upLast edited by maverick1; 08-08-2012, 05:48 PM.
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It is an utter nonsense that I am now comparing the bike with the other bikes. Plus You must see the posts in the previous pages and let me know where do you see comparisons. In fact we must report posts that talk about other bikes here.Originally posted by maverick1 View Post
Also extremerocker and people who are like him on this forum, please refrain from doing comparisons without valid logic and refrain from using strong words like shitty etc until and unless product is a big failure or fails to do something which was promised by the bike maker.
A Word of caution to all Bikers regarding Duke , since it attracts the highest number of eyeballs this side of 5 lacs in India please always check after leaving bike unattended for tempered coolant, brake oil caps
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Secondly, it is an exaggeration when you say Duke 200 attracts the 'highest' number of eyeballs.
. Plus your malformed statement 'highest number of eyeballs this side of 5 lacs in India...' and so forth requires a decrypting so that it can be understood.
maverick1 and people who are like him on this forum - Kindly think before you conveniently point fingers at anyone for comparing other bikes with Duke 200 here!Last edited by extremerocker00; 08-08-2012, 06:11 PM.
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shall i change to motul 7100 at first service ??,, if not then i will have to get them the oil by myself and i donno whether they are going to accept it or not.. i am getting it serviced on saturday ..the guy at svc told me that the gear shifts will get considerably smoother if i opt for motul7100 ..it doesnt mean that the gearshifts are not proper now .. it happily comes from 6th to 1st very quickly during panic braking ..Originally posted by maverick1 View PostThe pillion seat of DUke has been able to accommodate my father who weighs 72 kgs and is well built, my wife who is 6 months pregnant. Naturally i had to take extra care when riding with my wife and avoid bumps but just today while dropping her off to her office, i asked her regarding comfort and she said its fine
. Now she has had on various occasion been a pillion rider on her brothers Karizma and Bullet 350 hence i can safely say its comfortable enough. Yes You do need to hold the rider or the grab rails, thats what they are for
.
I have myself sat twice on pillion seat during test ride as i needed to know the comfort and never had any problems.
People like extreme rocker etc has to realize that Duke is Street Fighter/naked Sports , its not a cruiser or commuter bike hence its not supposed to offer extra comfortable pillion seats as well as its a European Product and they do have harder seat which are more ergonomic and good for the posture in long run.
We indians, are used to layer of extra foam on our seats, some Companies have homologue t he product to suit that like Hyundai, Maruti, but luckily many are still favouring the scientific/ ergonomic solution like Volkswagen, Audi, BMW.
Duke being a thorough European product has certain design considerations which are we are either not used to or are not good for us
Seat we being not used to and throttle being snatchy being not good for us.
Explanation- The snatchy Fi below and around 2000 RPM is not welcome feature anywhere but specifically so in India as in Europe you just use initial 2000 rpm to get the bike to speed and then you are generally in 5000-7000 rpm in city hence the KTM design team aim was to smoother response higher up rev range.
Also extremerocker and people who are like him on this forum, please refrain from doing comparisons without valid logic and refrain from using strong words like shitty etc until and unless product is a big failure or fails to do something which was promised by the bike maker.
A Word of caution to all Bikers regarding Duke , since it attracts the highest number of eyeballs this side of 5 lacs in India please always check after leaving bike unattended for tempered coolant, brake oil caps
. I have never been exposed to any problem like that but recently a crowd of 9-10 people gathered around my bike with all sorts of typical and some atypical questions, while answering one question, one guy even tried to sit down on my bike .
Also check the tire pressure while taking delivery as it can negatively affect balance if the pressure is not proper. After taking delivery of bike i didnot check the tire pressure but always felt front suspension bit hard and bike not that good during turns. I always thought well tires are not bed in plus i have not ridden on Indian roads from past 5 years but today came to know front was 30 and rear was 31
.
I changed it to 25 front and 29 rear !
Also To all and specially for Rohan, i ahd a long discussion with my biker friends from UK who says that since the 10000 dtsi comes with the bike by default and its only 30% synthttic you do not need to change it, if you wish you can and certainly it will not cause any harm
but its not required and almost 99.99 % of riders do not do oil change before first service meaning almost all bikes have 10,000 DTSI for 1000 kms for sure and many even after that so its not a problem. Regarding engine glazing it will only occour with fully synthetic oil that too if you ride at higher rpm like 7k plus or at relatively lower rpm but for long enough to heat the engine to make radiator fan kick in , also if you lug the engine it will damage the bike more then revving up continuously for long.
You actually are required to rev the bike or hard accelerate the bike like Duke once after 4-5 minutes of riding so as enough pressure and heat is created to properly seal piston rings with cylinder.
Again it does not mean that we need to cross 7.5 K rpm and it never has to been done with in 4-5 minutes of cold start, bike engine needs proper warming up
my radiator fan was not working and i got it rectified at svc yesterday ..he just changed a fuse below the rear seat .. he then showed me the fan running ..
even i face a lot of problems when i have to park it .. many people try to sit on it and take pics .. it attracts the eyes of almost all ages .. i often get to hear "hey duke duke" (in the background) where ever i go .. once i had parked my bike outside a fast food and went in to eat ,, by the time i collected my food , my friend told me that the crowd surrounding my bike was bigger than the crowd around the counter ... at that time i went close and noticed that college students (males and females) are standing next to it and taking pics in turns.. that is partly cuz my bike is always kept clean by me ( it is cleaner than the one which newly comes out of the showroom).....
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Going tomorrow to Adyar KTM in Chennai to pay for my Duke, with D(uke)-day to follow 2-3 days later. Straight upon delivery I'll go to my place, almost 200 km away, basically doing run in on the way...
I want to buy a helmet tomorrow (I've read Pioneer Scooter Centre is best), but also want to check if there are some gloves and light jacket for hot weather.
Is it better to buy gloves and jacket in Chennai or maybe in Bangalore, since I'll go to Bangalore for 1st service some 10 days after delivery? I've read somewhere that Bangalore has better choice for gloves and jackets?
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Originally posted by Ri$hi View PostI wouldn't call it a crash, the bike lost the balance and I managed to stop the bike at an angle of 45 degrees but I was unable to straighten the bike as it was still between my legs so I made it to lie down and picked it up after coming to one side of the bike. When I picked it up I noticed that the brake pedal was lying on the road. None of the other parts got damaged, not even the crash guard. If it was made of metal, it could have escaped with just a minor bend. But now I had to ride to the SVC with just front brakes at slow speeds.
Though it might be considered to be off topic I just wanted to know if the belt on the rear seat of N250R meant for the pillion to grab? I used to think its just for the show factor. One can also find these kind of belts on RX100, FZ1 etc.Originally posted by devil_rider View PostNinja has a belt on the rear seat which one has to hold with his hands below the groins.Last edited by Ri$hi; 08-08-2012, 10:33 PM.
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This means that the brake pedal isnt as durable as desired.Originally posted by Ri$hi View PostEven I am impressed by Your perspective and interpretation!
I wouldn't call it a crash, the bike lost the balance and I managed to stop the bike at an angle of 45 degrees but I was unable to straighten the bike as it was still between my legs so I made it to lie down and picked it up after coming to one side of the bike. When I picked it up I noticed that the brake pedal was lying on the road. None of the other parts got damaged, not even the crash guard. If it was made of metal, it could have escaped with just a minor bend. But now I had to ride to the SVC with just front brakes at slow speeds.
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Whats your budget for Helmet, Jacket and Gloves ? Chennai has options in terms for RJays, Cramster and Spartan. I have an Rjays Glove bought from Enfield showroom in Arcot Road. Spartan Helios Jacket from Spartan ProGear in Panayur. They have SOL, NExx helmets as well as gloves / riding pants etc. Currently I have a LS2 Crown helmet bought from GP Road, Sri Padam. I'll be upgrading to a SOL by this weekend. Address's belowOriginally posted by splus View PostGoing tomorrow to Adyar KTM in Chennai to pay for my Duke, with D(uke)-day to follow 2-3 days later. Straight upon delivery I'll go to my place, almost 200 km away, basically doing run in on the way...
I want to buy a helmet tomorrow (I've read Pioneer Scooter Centre is best), but also want to check if there are some gloves and light jacket for hot weather.
Is it better to buy gloves and jacket in Chennai or maybe in Bangalore, since I'll go to Bangalore for 1st service some 10 days after delivery? I've read somewhere that Bangalore has better choice for gloves and jackets?
Velavan Merchandise
# 45, 2nd Floor, Arcot Road, Virugambakkam, Chennai - 600 092
Contact : + 91 44 45034000/5/6
Products : RJays, Airoh helmets
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Spartan Progear,
#9, Copper Beach Avenue, Panayur, East Coast Road, Chennai, Tamil Nadu India 600119
Phone 044 2453 0195
Email [email protected]
Website Spartanprogear.com | Under Construction
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Email them or call them up before you drop by to Spartan.
In Bangalore you'll get Cramster and DSG.. not sure about the other brands for jackets / gloves...
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Thanks a lot!Originally posted by sivigshankar View PostWhats your budget for Helmet, Jacket and Gloves ? Chennai has options in terms for RJays, Cramster and Spartan. I have an Rjays Glove bought from Enfield showroom in Arcot Road. Spartan Helios Jacket from Spartan ProGear in Panayur. They have SOL, NExx helmets as well as gloves / riding pants etc. Currently I have a LS2 Crown helmet bought from GP Road, Sri Padam. I'll be upgrading to a SOL by this weekend. Address's below
Velavan Merchandise
# 45, 2nd Floor, Arcot Road, Virugambakkam, Chennai - 600 092
Contact : + 91 44 45034000/5/6
Products : RJays, Airoh helmets
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Spartan Progear,
#9, Copper Beach Avenue, Panayur, East Coast Road, Chennai, Tamil Nadu India 600119
Phone 044 2453 0195
Email [email protected]
Website Spartanprogear.com | Under Construction
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Email them or call them up before you drop by to Spartan.
In Bangalore you'll get Cramster and DSG.. not sure about the other brands for jackets / gloves...
I did a little research, and it looks like Spartan Helios jacket is a very good choice. I think I'll go for it. I already have DSG Nero but it's heavy and hot as hell, and baloons at higher speeds when vent zippers are open.
I saw at Contact Us - SOL Helmet India that Spartan has a reseller in GP road as well.
I'll see what helmets and gloves are available as well. Choice of a helmet depends a lot not just on quality but it can be quite individual depending on head shape and comfort, and available designs. Hopefully I find something "orangy" to match the Duke!
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