Re: KTM 200 Duke

The spare parts for the bike are pretty cheap. Rather than going for the 3m film which I believe is expensive, just change the part that has scratches
For eg:
Front fender : Rs 613
KTM fuel tank cover : Rs 1020
Sticker kit for tank : ~Rs 350

Re: KTM 200 Duke

If this is the case, a ECU reset might do the trick. One should try removing the other blue white wire too.

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If this is the case, a ECU reset might do the trick. One should try removing the other blue white wire too.

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Tricore processor means it'll check the checksum on every boot, may need to remove the ECU from the bike to remap. The hardware will have to be connected to allow to boot and reset the ECU at any given time from pins on the motherboard to stop the ECU from detecting OBD reprogramming attempt. ME series ECU has been encrypted with 1024 bit RSA encryption which is impossible to crack through brute force method as of now. I think most of the tuners offering remaps are using a backdoor in the ECU.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi Guys,

Not sure if this has been posted before, but has anyone tried the Motozone re-map. What kind of difference do you notice once the re-map is done?

Re: KTM 200 Duke


Motozone uses Kiirus remapped ECU. They rebrand it as Motozone. They claim to have moved the rev limiter further up to 12000 rpm, however for that you have to get the head tuned from them along with few other mods.

From our experience on Kiirus remap, it is not worth 9000 bucks and stock ecu is better.

Still waiting for a comprehensive test by a RD user.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys need urgent help
Does any one know how to bypass the side stand sensor? Im not able to use my bike because of this stupid error
And the service centre is around 20 km from where I stay :banghead:
Please help. .

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PM this guy : http://goo.gl/mCNPvn
He has already made a Side Stand Sensor Bypass device, he might help you better.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Well chinmayakar i would say RD piggy back is good for ppl who can tune for them self. I am right now no expert and i m still learning a lot in both cars and bikes and i take a lot of help from one of my good friend who has been a good map and tuner guy for a good amount of time in abroad and in Bangalore, But i am loving every bit if it and yes the maps i m running are way better then stock maps in bottom n mid. Top is better than stock but not concentrating on that much for the love of mid range
If your not inclined and don't have the patience then definitely this ECU is not for such ppl

I will post the videos on how strong my bottom and mid range(2.5k to 8k RPM) is once i get the maps to a presentable state of tune (its 80% done at the moment needs a bit of fine tuning). Right now side by side to the stock Duke i have shaved off a good 2 secs on the 0-100 in a casual launch. Also post 8K rpm also that there is no squatting or chocking kind of feeling like in stock map, its continuous with a tad bit of slowness when compared to the mid range that's because the my mid range is really beefier. For example i am doing 100 now i can twist the throttle and it will go all the way up to 140 without a hiccup or that slowness that you see in stock map where in post 120 to 135 you feel its taking a long while and a good distance.

How i keep a tab of where and how the maps are good, my friend and colleague owns a stock 200 so every time i test my map i ensure i ride this bike immediately to feel the difference in each 1k interval RPM and also at different load points, cruising type, aggressive type.

Thats right it will be wise to go for replacement than the 3M PPF. The 3M PPF costs almost 500 per sqft if i am not wrong. So for your bike you may end up spending around 2-2.5k which IMO is not worth it.

All KTM ecu's(125, 200, 390, 690) cant be reset with the regular battery disconnect way. It needs to be reset with the diagnostics tool. This is what i can say with all the experiments and reading i have done. Left the battery unplugged for 15 mins n then reconnected tried to run n see if i can feel the difference, left it unplugged overnight even then the ECU values wont reset. If you come across anything new that i can try please let me know i ll me more than happy to try it.

Yes Tricore processors are the most advanced set of ECU's and yes they are very well encrypted. There are modules available for this but costs a bomb( close to 5-8 lakhs) the only reason you dont find tuners talking about it or buying it is for a simple return of investment point of view. Most remaps for cars and bikes are generally build by few guys abroad and here its burnt on to our ECU's through a clone tool, One main reason i didnt go for a remap. In India also we have a lot of talent too its just that the modules cost so much that buying it may not get back all the money you invested and for which ever modules they have they will remap based on your requirements. But if you have a guy with the module who can remap based on your requirement for the KTM then that's the guy i will approach. So far i haven't come across any such guy in India or abroad at least over the internet.


Also one other thing i got to know today is your ECU has all the info related to your bike VIN Number, Chassis number, Engine number and total Km's ridden(ODO). You can check this with the diagnostic tool avail in the service center under ECU information. As per the SVC this is checked before any warranty claims. So even if you swap your ECU just to be on the safer side to put it back to your bike when its going to the SVC or any warranty claims.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

So I flushed my coolant and filled in new castrol radicool coolant 2:1 ratio. I was thinking the service center guys put too much coolant and too less water, but I was wrong. I have no idea what they filled in the radiator, the drained liquid was brownish!!!.



A pic of the coolant that khivraj Indiranagar service center guys filled.

I flushed with water couple of times and with distilled water once. I still am not sure if the new coolant will go bad or not.

Fair warning to anyone going to Khivraj service centers : They suck bug time. They never solve any problem and just screws up your bike more and more every time you go there.

They even refused to sell any spare part to me saying you have to get your bike here and get it fixed here. I just needed an engine kill switch, was out riding in heavy rain for many days and the kill switch is acting up.
Does any one know if the service center refusing to sell spare parts is a Bajaj policy or is it just these guys?

I am pretty sure the coolant was green when I gave it to the service center last month, when they did the coolant change.
I hope this is just some bad coolant rather than oil leaking into the cooling system.

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The thing that I really don't understand is why Bajaj has recommended using this particular method of mixing coolant and water? Why didn't it recommend a premixed coolant like Motul Motocool? Strange, since premixed coolants are not just convenient, they also help maintain cleaner cooling systems due to the fact that the water used in the pre mix is already demineralised, making use of tap water and any other water with contaminants a non issue.

As for the coolant that you have drained, there are three possibilities:

1. Tap water used in the coolant mix had contaminants i.e. mud/ sludge/ rust from water pipe.
2. There is rust formation somewhere in your cooling system. Most likely your radiator.
3. Oil contamination. If this is the case, I suggest that you leave the bottle aside for couple of days. Oil and water don't mix well, they will separate and you will see distinct layer of oil floating on water.

P.s.: I use Engine ICE premixed coolant in my Ninja300 and R15. The cooling system stays very clean.



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Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi Chetan,
I am also testing out the RD box. This is what I have got from the RD dealer here in Mumbai that the map is tuned in such a way that it has zero effect on low/half throttle and only the full throttle values rare modified or piggybacked. Hence,I asked you for snapshot of the Stock map. Also the map provided by RD makes the overall feel pretty linear and takes away the character from the bike.
Another thing I learnt from the dealer over here is that on some bikes the RD box works pretty well as expected, while on others it doesn't . Can you verify this from Karthik?and also the cause.
First impressions of RD are pretty good but as you said it needs to be customized according to the rider to get the best of it.Please also give the feedback to karthik to make the base or standard map similar to that of the First lot, the eager and non linear power delivery was the character of duke.
Just forgot to add, the bike now power wheelies with RD box in first 2 gears(with me weighing almost 100kgs).

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Here is the best from my various 0-100 tests. I don't know how accurate this is but IMO its pretty accurate.


I had a problem with my fuel pump and got it replaced under warranty. I had a minor problem with the speedo and I got that too replaced under warranty. So at 12000 kms I got a new speedo which is now showing 0 kms. I DO NOT LIKE!!!

Re: KTM 200 Duke

App link please

Re: KTM 200 Duke

That, my friend is as inaccurate as it gets. Even with a remap and a free flow tuned for acceleration and mid range this performance is not possible.
I can bet on that. The duke 200 motor is certainly capable but not this capable.


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Its called Car Performance. I use the Pro version.


As I said, I don't know how EXACTLY accurate this is, but I can say it is pretty accurate. Tried this with 2 devices and found them to be giving out similar number. I will try again in a different location. I won't be arguing till then.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I wouldn't want to argue on this matter, however, here are some facts:

1. It is apparent that you are using a phone and it's GPS or AGPS feature to do your runs.

2. The application that you are using takes its readings in 2 ways: a) through a accelerometer and b) through the GPS/ AGPS module.

3. The fact is that the accelerometer and the GPS/ AGPS of a phone are not calibrated with aim of timing runs. They are calibrated with the purpose of sensing orientation of the phone and for the purpose of road navigation.

4. While these modules can calibrated for timing runs, the results can vary depending on the hardware and the results vary considerably.

5. As the GPS/ AGPS module on the phone is designed for the purpose of navigation, it most cases it is a 1Hz engine. In contrast, dedicated data loggers that are used for timing runs use a 10Hz engine for accuracy (that's 10 times more accurate reading).

6. Therefore, if are you really interested in accurate readings for the sake of knowing the genuine performance of your bike, source a data logger such as V Box data logger.

The gentleman who pointed out that your readings are inaccurate is right in this case.



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