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  • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
    In the village I live, we the villagers do not get the modern facilities and luxuries you city people enjoy. Here the news and information reach very late. That is why I asked what RedBull is. Truly speaking, I thought it is another brand of engine oil.
    It is not easy to gather marble pieces and test tubes here and appliances like refrigerator are very rare. Yet I shall try my best to conduct the test you mentioned but I think I have read about it somewhere else, earlier.
    And I wonder how easily our youngsters are being provoked. Atom family is one of the main reasons. In joint families, people were more tolerating.
    sir, i am sorry if you thought i was provoked, (and thank you for calling me a 'youngster' ), its just that i enjoy a good argument
    and lets not talk about joint families etc etc.. we can take this talk off this thread and maybe in to the 'coffee lounge' section of xbhp were more people who want to talk on this topic may post their views.

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    • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
      My babe is on her day of second servicing.
      "ll take her back today evening.

      EDIT:

      Back from second service and am now in a shock. Am looking onto you all to clear me on this doubt.

      My odo is 3.4k and I last changed oil at .5k during first service. Today when I went to get her back after the second service, the ASC people told me that I can take my bike and am not charged anything. I was totally shocked.

      The guy who service CBR was called and he told me that the oil was upto the level and no oil change is required. I was like WTF!? In the morning, I specially mentioned to change the engine oil and the guy who checked the bike in even noted that on the job sheet, but in the evening they are like why to change the oil when it is good. They are even saying that they checked the quality of the oil and its viscosity and both are good.

      By question is on the basis of,
      at the back of 2nd service coupon, it is mentioned to replace engine oil and so is at the back of 3rd and 4th. So, a change is evident for every 3.5k-4k kms. And out of my 3.5k kms, above 95% was on highways and around 100kmph and this include even 2 hours of triple digit speeds a couple of times. I didn't follow any rpm limit for run-in. I just rode as I would right from the day of purchase.

      So, what to do now? Am totally in confused state. Help me here guys!

      Although, I have told them that I'll back after a couple of weeks and they agreed to change the engine oil, but that too they advised me on just topping up of oil and change is not needed. I don't know why they are so hesitant to change the oil when am willing to pay for it.
      There is a huge discussion in XBHP regarding oil and I think there is a separate thread for it too. If you are confused, ask one of our Moderators. They are the most experienced guys and its the roads and bikes who know them, instead of the other way.
      If the rating is 10W30 and they have charged 600 INR to you for the first change, it is Full Synthetic Honda oil. Please stick to it and if possbile go to the service center with a shotgun and ask them to change the oil (TROLL included). Change the oil mate, that's the best you can do to your ride. Also, I follow the change of oil in the below mentioned manner:

      1. Mineral - 1500-2000 KMs
      2. Semi-Syn - 3500-4000 KMs
      3. Full Syn - 5500-6000 KMs (however, I have never bothered to go for full synthetic. too costly for my type of use)

      PS : I own a P150 with oil rating 20W50 and currently using 15W50 rated oil. WINTERS and approaching.

      Originally posted by dang27112004 View Post
      best time for oil changing is around 1500-2000km
      my cbr is 23k odo, i use mobil 1 racing , this type

      don't worry about 946ml, it's fine .

      i have to warn about shell advance ultra .last time i used this, i filled 1liter and when i changed oil, just 700ml remainded.

      motul 300V makes the engine heavy ( it's my felling )

      and last thing. i heard about cbr150 hp is 17,8 BHP ??, when i came thailand for some genuine parts, in honda head they said that cbr150 has 19,5 BHP ???
      is any different between thai version and indian version ???
      For Shell and Motul, yoy have mentioned 15/20W50 rated oil. Please note that if the oil rating is 10W30, you can very well vary the rating '10' to 5 or even 0 but don't go above 10. As far as the value after W is concenred, please stick to the one mentioned in the manual. And yup, Thai and Indian versions are different.

      Originally posted by sumeshpremraj View Post
      In Thailand, CBR150R runs at full power (19.5 BHP). In India, the engine has been detuned to meet govt norms for pollution. But it is not such a bad deal, detuned engines almost always have more reliability than stock (eg. P220 engine in Avenger).

      4000 kms would be too much, given neevarp's riding style (always ripping and top whack on highways).
      Umm, P220 engine in Avenger is mroe reliable than the more aggressive brother P220? Mate, they are two different bikes so have got different ways of throwing in power and torque. Avenger is a relaxed cruiser whereas P220 is like an aggressive brawler.
      Regards,
      Akash Yadav

      The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place. It will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it.

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      • OIL OIL OIL enough talked about Oil . Let us talk about Fuel . Anyone tried premium petrol in CBR150R ?. I am thinking of filling with SHELL today. Just want to test the performance with premioum fuel. Any suggestions please.

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        • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
          I am not Punar + Vasu; just punarvasu. Don’t change my name as it is difficult to notify the change in gazette.

          Isn’t it strange that the grade of engine oil to be used in a bike is shown differently in the same manual? And I didn’t ever say that it is the degraded version of Thai CBR150R. These were/are my main contentions:
          1. This 150 cc bike is overpriced.
          2. Its only differences from the original Thai bike are in the size of the tyres and number of rear sprocket teeth. Both these changes make the bike faster but more sluggish.
          Other points were about its ability to accelerate faster, the maximum speed it can reach, error in the speedo/odo meters etc. I am not a man changing my words so frequently.
          These are the links you asked for:
          1. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0Ru...hl=en_US&pli=1
          2. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0Ru...hl=en_US&pli=1
          Hope it is useful.

          I have clearly said earlier (reply No. 1729) that I am not sure about the oil change interval and asked neevarp16 to refer the user’s manual.
          You people Use The Carb Version of The Bike ..And here Its FI(Fuel Injected) which adds to the extra cost....This is the Reason why you say its costlier for a 150cc Bike.....Understood????
          Last edited by siddharthsure; 10-15-2012, 02:52 PM.
          Its better to sweat than bleed!! "AGATT "

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          • Originally posted by krishnab4u View Post
            OIL OIL OIL enough talked about Oil . Let us talk about Fuel . Anyone tried premium petrol in CBR150R ?. I am thinking of filling with SHELL today. Just want to test the performance with premioum fuel. Any suggestions please.
            Dude I filled the bike with Speed during my first long trip. It was wonderful. Since I was in run-in during that time, I didnt rip it much. And the bike was really smooth except for the gears. I only fill Speed when I goto long trips.

            And the showroom guys said to me while taking delivery not to fill the bike with premium fuel.. I dont know why they said that.

            Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
            You people Use The Carb Version of The Bike ..And here Its FI(Fuel Injected) which adds to the extra cost....This is the Reason why you say its costlier for a 150cc Bike.....Understood????
            Ok this thread is in the verge of being closed as it is becoming like a flaming thread (thanks to the troller)
            Sometimes you gotta run before you can walk ! - Tony Stark

            Sometimes in Driving, being patient for a matter of seconds can save your LIFE!

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            • Originally posted by mulli84 View Post
              I only fill Speed when I goto long trips.
              Shell and Speed are more or less equivalent right?


              Originally posted by mulli84 View Post
              And the showroom guys said to me while taking delivery not to fill the bike with premium fuel.. I dont know why they said that.
              I was also told like that only. Thats what i wanted to know.

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              • Originally posted by krishnab4u View Post
                Shell and Speed are more or less equivalent right?
                Speed what? Shell doesn't sell anything beyond 91 RON; BPCL has regular 91, so technically they're almost the same (but then we can't comment anything on adulteration ); BPCL also sells Speed 97 RON (high octane)
                Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  Speed what? Shell doesn't sell anything beyond 91 RON; BPCL has regular 91, so technically they're almost the same (but then we can't comment anything on adulteration ); BPCL also sells Speed 97 RON (high octane)
                  ji thanks for showing up here!.

                  Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  Shell doesn't sell anything beyond 91 RON; BPCL has regular 91
                  Which one you recommend ? Shell or Regular ?.

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                  • Originally posted by krishnab4u View Post
                    Which one you recommend ? Shell or Regular ?.
                    If you've money Shell - for the service & good will, otherwise from any good/reputed PSU oil dealer, to save money
                    Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                    Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                    ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                    • saw this in a site. Shell being demonstrated as cleaning agent and anti friction. Though for formula one car, the video at the end says it also applies to bike.

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                      • Owing to the 2-hours only power policy of our state, I couldn't reply as of then. Also, Opera mini is not working in the mobile with the new editor.

                        Yesterday was full raining and I could not take the bike out of shed for me inspect but today morning i got a surprise. The fairings were removed and were not fixed properly. Then, I checked the level of the oil using the dip stick and it does not even upto the tip of the stick, leave the minimum mark aside. So, within 10 mins, started off. Went to the ASC. Flamed at them. Asked them to check the oil level, and they were not able to say a word for their claim after that. The head supervisor agreed its their mistake and changed the oil free-of-cost. Throughout the service, I was near my bike. The oil they are using is 10W30 FS. It was in a closed barrel from Honda.


                        Originally posted by s1d View Post
                        I think most em would want to give you redbull instead of water (gives you wings so that you can fly out from this forum/discussion) or like you said earlier.. its better to keep mum (practice what you preach oh almighty)
                        That would be great.. Either the redbull thingy or the preaching or the both!

                        Originally posted by Akash.Yadav View Post
                        If the rating is 10W30 and they have charged 600 INR to you for the first change, it is Full Synthetic Honda oil. Please stick to it and if possbile go to the service center with a shotgun and ask them to change the oil (TROLL included). Change the oil mate, that's the best you can do to your ride.
                        Yeah. Decided to stick with the same and also did the same.

                        Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                        Nywys, Those documents were of the previous versions of Thai 150R.
                        Who knows what is in the new one's. False-preaching!

                        And I clear and clearly said even before that and even once after that, I have referred to the manual!

                        Yeah, thats a discovery made.

                        1. This bike is the least VFM.
                        2. Its a thai bike sold in India which according to you seems to be a big offense.
                        3. Those big tyres and rear sprocket change are useless and are methods of cheating people here in India.
                        4. This bike is faster but sluggish and so its useless., (probably for a more lazy rider like.. )
                        5. The speedo is deceiving.
                        6. It never accelerates. and so on...

                        So what..,
                        Sir, as I already quoted to you once, (that was in a nice manner)
                        If you are ready to have your thoughts about the bike to your damn head and reply to the queries here., you and your 'preaching' are gladly welcomed here.
                        But, if you decide the other way around, please stay off.
                        Your thoughts smell foul in your sentences and if you can't write without them, please don't!
                        Good for you, us, the thread, and the forum.
                        The limiter kicks in @11,500 rpm just within a second after the first shift..And, that's where the fun begins !! ;)

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                        • Honda CBR 150 R

                          ^^^^ dude where r u from ??? Chennai ????
                          Its better to sweat than bleed!! "AGATT "

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                          • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
                            Owing to the 2-hours only power policy of our state, I couldn't reply as of then.
                            Yeah, thats a discovery made..
                            thats a sad story of south TN. Cant beleieve govt. being so deaf to this issue. they realy want us to feel Koodankulam installation is mandatory, even though not needed they create scenes to justify it. What to do.

                            Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post

                            1. This bike is the least VFM.
                            2. Its a thai bike sold in India which according to you seems to be a big offense.
                            3. Those big tyres and rear sprocket change are useless and are methods of cheating people here in India.
                            4. This bike is faster but sluggish and so its useless., (probably for a more lazy rider like.. )
                            5. The speedo is deceiving.
                            6. It never accelerates. and so on...

                            ..
                            Common Praveen, put a full stop to this. Dont drag on the brawl. We cannot stop others to write their views here, leave alone this forum, we are in a democratic country. just because some one tell us our bikes are junk, not they are going to be junk realy. Chill yaar. The best way is to change the topic instead of bugging on the same point. lets discuss something useful and fruitfull here.

                            I have searched in net regarding this high octance fuels, some says it is good for high revving engines (like our's) but also depends on fuel injector, knock sensors. If we have knock sensors then there is no harm in using high octane fuel. (Do we have such knock sensor). High octance fuels enhance smoothness in engine. Having said that they also point out in some kind of engines these high octane petrol can erode some parts in engines harming them. finaly they conclude saying follow the maker's recommendation leaving us(me) in confusion. I want to realy go for Shell and try out atleast once how it behaves. Hope my engine should be safe.

                            one more point i read that in cars high octane fuels increase responsiveness with very small pressure on gas pedal.

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                            • Originally posted by krishnab4u View Post
                              Common Praveen, put a full stop to this.
                              Me said enough. and no more sayings!

                              Regarding the High octane fuel., in my opinion, They are not practically feasible to be used with the rates of normal fuel at sky-high level, ans those high-octane one's at even high, at-least till the level of a above-normal class of Indian family.
                              The limiter kicks in @11,500 rpm just within a second after the first shift..And, that's where the fun begins !! ;)

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                              • Originally posted by krishnab4u View Post
                                I have searched in net regarding this high octance fuels, some says it is good for high revving engines (like our's) but also depends on fuel injector, knock sensors. If we have knock sensors then there is no harm in using high octane fuel. (Do we have such knock sensor). High octance fuels enhance smoothness in engine. Having said that they also point out in some kind of engines these high octane petrol can erode some parts in engines harming them. finaly they conclude saying follow the maker's recommendation leaving us(me) in confusion. I want to realy go for Shell and try out atleast once how it behaves. Hope my engine should be safe.

                                one more point i read that in cars high octane fuels increase responsiveness with very small pressure on gas pedal.
                                Sorry folks for intruding the CBR 150R thread even though I own a Pulsar 150. Can't stop myself from posting things that may help the fellow riders irrespective of the bike. Mate, here in Hyderabad we had this promotional offer in June-July when Super Shell was retailing at 77.80/L. Normal BP,HP,IO petrols were retailing at 75.24/L. I was like even if I fill in 10L of petrol, I am just saving 20 Rs., so went to Shell station, twice in that period and got full tanks 2 times, 11.xx L the first time and 9.80L the second time. Fuel efficiency bumped up by +5KMPL and engine was super smooth(Pulsar's standards ).

                                The thing is, if I can use it my power commuter, you can very well use it. Trust me, I got my friends too to fill it up and they were all praises for the Super Shell. However things have changed, no offers now and Shell Unleaded retails at 88.90/L whereas the normal BP/HP/IO unleaded retails at 74.26/L. I always go in for full tanks, i.e. >10L and I initially was using BP, so got no problems even with mixing of fuels. Shell's site too says that its ok to mix their fuels with other brands.
                                Regards,
                                Akash Yadav

                                The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place. It will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it.

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