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  • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
    My babe is on her day of second servicing.
    "ll take her back today evening.

    EDIT:

    Back from second service and am now in a shock. Am looking onto you all to clear me on this doubt.

    My odo is 3.4k and I last changed oil at .5k during first service. Today when I went to get her back after the second service, the ASC people told me that I can take my bike and am not charged anything. I was totally shocked.


    So, what to do now? Am totally in confused state. Help me here guys!

    Although, I have told them that I'll back after a couple of weeks and they agreed to change the engine oil, but that too they advised me on just topping up of oil and change is not needed. I don't know why they are so hesitant to change the oil when am willing to pay for it.
    Bro! I cant say anything about this as we are all initial owners. But I think there should be oil change for every 2500 kms. Maybe after 10000 kms, we can extend the interval because by that time, the bike would be well set.
    Sometimes you gotta run before you can walk ! - Tony Stark

    Sometimes in Driving, being patient for a matter of seconds can save your LIFE!

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    • ^^^^^ if it is mineral oil or even semi-synthetic i wouldn't dare to keep it further,if it is synthetic you can run it for another 500 km.
      top-up?i never did it,i always drain out complete oil.
      and the question remains why do i race?
      every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

      #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
      #overkill is underrated.
      #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
      #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

      (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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      • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
        My babe is on her day of second servicing.
        "ll take her back today evening.

        EDIT:

        Back from second service and am now in a shock. Am looking onto you all to clear me on this doubt.

        My odo is 3.4k and I last changed oil at .5k during first service. Today when I went to get her back after the second service, the ASC people told me that I can take my bike and am not charged anything. I was totally shocked.

        The guy who service CBR was called and he told me that the oil was upto the level and no oil change is required. I was like WTF!? In the morning, I specially mentioned to change the engine oil and the guy who checked the bike in even noted that on the job sheet, but in the evening they are like why to change the oil when it is good. They are even saying that they checked the quality of the oil and its viscosity and both are good.

        By question is on the basis of,
        at the back of 2nd service coupon, it is mentioned to replace engine oil and so is at the back of 3rd and 4th. So, a change is evident for every 3.5k-4k kms. And out of my 3.5k kms, above 95% was on highways and around 100kmph and this include even 2 hours of triple digit speeds a couple of times. I didn't follow any rpm limit for run-in. I just rode as I would right from the day of purchase.

        So, what to do now? Am totally in confused state. Help me here guys!

        Although, I have told them that I'll back after a couple of weeks and they agreed to change the engine oil, but that too they advised me on just topping up of oil and change is not needed. I don't know why they are so hesitant to change the oil when am willing to pay for it.
        best time for oil changing is around 1500-2000km
        my cbr is 23k odo, i use mobil 1 racing , this type
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        and last thing. i heard about cbr150 hp is 17,8 BHP ??, when i came thailand for some genuine parts, in honda head they said that cbr150 has 19,5 BHP ???
        is any different between thai version and indian version ???
        Last edited by dang27112004; 10-14-2012, 01:24 AM.

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        • Originally posted by dang27112004 View Post
          best time for oil changing is around 1500-2000km
          only if it is mineral .you can stretch ss upto 3000 km 0r 4 months and fs upto 4000 km or 6 m0nths ,whichever is earlier.
          and the question remains why do i race?
          every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

          #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
          #overkill is underrated.
          #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
          #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

          (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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          • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
            My babe is on her day of second servicing.
            "ll take her back today evening.

            EDIT:

            Back from second service and am now in a shock. Am looking onto you all to clear me on this doubt.

            My odo is 3.4k and I last changed oil at .5k during first service. Today when I went to get her back after the second service, the ASC people told me that I can take my bike and am not charged anything. I was totally shocked.
            If I read right, you changed oil at 500kms, and it has now run 3.4k. Full synth lasts longer, but even then, for the first couple of services, I reckon an oil change is best if you've run at least 1000 kms - reason being engine parts are mating, and a lot of fine particles would be in the oil (which might damage engine in the long run).

            Honda service is truly pathetic in most places, I gave my CBR for 1st service yesterday and even the water wash was bad. One of the side fairing pieces was left unattached at the edge, had to go back to get it fixed. I knew all these issues so I checked engine oil, brake fluid etc right after getting the bike (one of my friends had Yamaha ASC forget to put oil in his R15 engine, and went back for a free engine rebuild, Honda is just as bad).

            For the record, the ASC was Druvdesh Honda (Bangalore). Next time I'll try Saphire Honda, it is some 18 kms from my place but if they service properly, it is worth the effort and time required.

            Originally posted by dang27112004 View Post
            and last thing. i heard about cbr150 hp is 17,8 BHP ??, when i came thailand for some genuine parts, in honda head they said that cbr150 has 19,5 BHP ???
            is any different between thai version and indian version ???
            In Thailand, CBR150R runs at full power (19.5 BHP). In India, the engine has been detuned to meet govt norms for pollution. But it is not such a bad deal, detuned engines almost always have more reliability than stock (eg. P220 engine in Avenger).

            Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
            only if it is mineral .you can stretch ss upto 3000 km 0r 4 months and fs upto 4000 km or 6 m0nths ,whichever is earlier.
            4000 kms would be too much, given neevarp's riding style (always ripping and top whack on highways).
            ----------
            TVS Apache RTR 160 (2011-12) | Here's my review of RTR 160 after 18 months
            Honda CBR150R (2012-15) | Here's my review of the baby Blade
            KTM RC390 (2015-)

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            • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
              Back from second service and am now in a shock.
              As far as I know the recommended first oil change of CBR150R is at 1000 kms and the next at 8000, i.e. after 7000 kms from the first oil change or within six months from the date of purchase and the subsequent changes at the time of every alternative servicing which comes to 8000 kms. If you think this period is too much, let me say the engineers designing the bike are deciding the viscosity of oil to be filled and the interval between each replacement.
              But I am not sure about it as I don’t have this bike. Read the user’s manual and check the service coupon again. If the letters “I, TU” is there, it is “Inspect and Top Up if necessary”. Usually the letter “R” is used to denote replacement.
              If replacement is recommended, do it yourself with 1 liter of any good, I mean the one you trust, oil of the suggested viscosity.
              Usually the SCs don’t have any viscous meters except the greasy fingers of the mechanic.
              Don’t be panicked by reading commends of some ‘super experts’ including me all over every thread. They don’t know what they are doing in the disguise of helping others and will never understand that keeping mum is always better than frightening others with their Solomonic opinions.
              First of all read the user’s manual.

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              • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                They don’t know what they are doing in the disguise of helping others and will never understand that keeping mum is always better than frightening others with their Solomonic opinions.
                if we all kept mum , what is the point in having this forum.. and if you want us to keep mum, i will wrt your comments on this forum.

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                • Originally posted by mulli84 View Post
                  Bro! I cant say anything about this as we are all initial owners. But I think there should be oil change for every 2500 kms. Maybe after 10000 kms, we can extend the interval because by that time, the bike would be well set.
                  Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                  if it is mineral oil or even semi-synthetic i wouldn't dare to keep it further,if it is synthetic you can run it for another 500 km.
                  top-up?i never did it,i always drain out complete oil.
                  Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                  only if it is mineral .you can stretch ss upto 3000 km 0r 4 months and fs upto 4000 km or 6 m0nths ,whichever is earlier.
                  Honda's ASC used oil should probably be mineral cause that's what they use it on all bikes. Moreover, when they changed oil for my first service, 1.1L was quoted a price of 600 Rs. So, that should be mineral, right??

                  Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                  As far as I know the recommended first oil change of CBR150R is at 1000 kms and the next at 8000, i.e. after 7000 kms from the first oil change or within six months from the date of purchase and the subsequent changes at the time of every alternative servicing which comes to 8000 kms. If you think this period is too much, let me say the engineers designing the bike are deciding the viscosity of oil to be filled and the interval between each replacement.
                  But I am not sure about it as I don’t have this bike. Read the user’s manual and check the service coupon again. If the letters “I, TU” is there, it is “Inspect and Top Up if necessary”. Usually the letter “R” is used to denote replacement.
                  If replacement is recommended, do it yourself with 1 liter of any good, I mean the one you trust, oil of the suggested viscosity.
                  Usually the SCs don’t have any viscous meters except the greasy fingers of the mechanic.
                  Don’t be panicked by reading commends of some ‘super experts’ including me all over every thread. They don’t know what they are doing in the disguise of helping others and will never understand that keeping mum is always better than frightening others with their Solomonic opinions.
                  First of all read the user’s manual.
                  Get yourself corrected, please. The facts are, first change at 1000kms as you said and next is at 3500-4000 and next at 7500-8000 and then at 11500-12000. So, it should be at every 2500-3000 kms. And all these are stated from the user manual. I guess, what you suggest is fro the use of FS oil and am sure that Honda ASC's oil ain't that. I have already mentioned in my query that, the replacement of engine oil is mentioned at the back of every free service coupon which states the above said intervals. And its not 'inspect and replace if necessary', its just 'replace'.

                  So, that is what am worried about now. With the design engineers stating such intervals, these ASC guys now have neglected that. Moreover, as I have already said, more than 2000 kms of my odo was on highways at triple digit speeds. And, bro.. these so called "super-experts" and their contrary comments have led us as newbies learn a lot of things, atleast for me, and moreover, that is all the public forums are about.

                  So, I have decided to change the engine oil myself. Its not about wasting the 'okay' oil, but about me riding with a satisfied heart.
                  The back cover of my user manual states that Honda is using a API SJ 20W40 oil 4-stroke oil. Could I get the same grade outside or, if it is better to use someother grades?

                  And, thanks for all "Super-Experts" :P who replied.
                  Last edited by neevarp16; 10-14-2012, 01:32 PM.
                  The limiter kicks in @11,500 rpm just within a second after the first shift..And, that's where the fun begins !! ;)

                  My 1 Day rides - T'Log collection

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                  • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                    As far as I know the recommended first oil change of CBR150R is at 1000 kms and the next at 8000, i.e. after 7000 kms from the first oil change or within six months from the date of purchase and the subsequent changes at the time of every alternative servicing which comes to 8000 kms. If you think this period is too much, let me say the engineers designing the bike are deciding the viscosity of oil to be filled and the interval between each replacement.
                    But I am not sure about it as I don’t have this bike. Read the user’s manual and check the service coupon again. If the letters “I, TU” is there, it is “Inspect and Top Up if necessary”. Usually the letter “R” is used to denote replacement.
                    If replacement is recommended, do it yourself with 1 liter of any good, I mean the one you trust, oil of the suggested viscosity.
                    Usually the SCs don’t have any viscous meters except the greasy fingers of the mechanic.
                    Don’t be panicked by reading commends of some ‘super experts’ including me all over every thread. They don’t know what they are doing in the disguise of helping others and will never understand that keeping mum is always better than frightening others with their Solomonic opinions.
                    First of all read the user’s manual.
                    Well the CBR mocker is back. Now he is mocking us. All the replies made to neevarp were normal and there was no super expert opinions. And by the manual,its 1000 then 3500 and then 7000 kms. And experience comes by trying and not by keeping mum!
                    Sometimes you gotta run before you can walk ! - Tony Stark

                    Sometimes in Driving, being patient for a matter of seconds can save your LIFE!

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                    • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
                      Honda's ASC used oil should probably be mineral cause that's what they use it on all bikes. Moreover, when they changed oil for my first service, 1.1L was quoted a price of 600 Rs. So, that should be mineral, right??



                      Get yourself corrected, please. The facts are, first change at 1000kms as you said and next is at 3500-4000 and next at 7500-8000 and then at 11500-12000. So, it should be at every 2500-3000 kms. And all these are stated from the user manual. I guess, what you suggest is fro the use of FS oil and am sure that Honda ASC's oil ain't that. I have already mentioned in my query that, the replacement of engine oil is mentioned at the back of every free service coupon which states the above said intervals. And its not 'inspect and replace if necessary', its just 'replace'.


                      So, I have decided to change the engine oil myself. Its not about wasting the 'okay' oil, but about me riding with a satisfied heart.
                      The back cover of my user manual states that Honda is using a API SJ 20W40 oil 4-stroke oil. Could I get the same grade outside or, if it is better to use someother grades?

                      And, thanks for all "Super-Experts" :P who replied.

                      Neevarp, I checked the Honda site and they only have SS oil for Honda CBR. I think they use this oil.

                      Honda

                      And try to get Motul oil. Its got really a lot of positive reviews.
                      Sometimes you gotta run before you can walk ! - Tony Stark

                      Sometimes in Driving, being patient for a matter of seconds can save your LIFE!

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                      • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
                        Honda's ASC used oil should probably be mineral cause that's what they use it on all bikes. Moreover, when they changed oil for my first service, 1.1L was quoted a price of 600 Rs. So, that should be mineral, right??

                        ​the price point is too high for a mineral,i think it is a fs.
                        and the question remains why do i race?
                        every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                        #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                        #overkill is underrated.
                        #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                        #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                        (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                        • I'd got first service done a couple of days ago, and the service center guy said CBR comes with fully synth oil from factory. And was charged ~Rs 500 for the oil change, clearly mentioned as 10w30 fully synth oil in the bill. High revving engine, so FS is understandable.

                          Also, to all quoting the manufacturer recommendation of oil changes, keep in mind that is not necessarily the best - if you do a lot of city riding with start-stop(particularly degrades oil), continuous long rides on highways, dusty conditions etc, it is better to change oil more frequently. Ultimately, I think we all agree that spending 500 for an oil change is better than not, if you know it helps in performance and longetivity of the engine.
                          ----------
                          TVS Apache RTR 160 (2011-12) | Here's my review of RTR 160 after 18 months
                          Honda CBR150R (2012-15) | Here's my review of the baby Blade
                          KTM RC390 (2015-)

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                          • Originally posted by mulli84 View Post
                            Neevarp, I checked the Honda site and they only have SS oil for Honda CBR. I think they use this oil.
                            Honda
                            And try to get Motul oil. Its got really a lot of positive reviews.
                            Thanks for the information bro!

                            Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                            ​the price point is too high for a mineral,i think it is a fs.
                            Originally posted by sumeshpremraj View Post
                            I'd got first service done a couple of days ago, and the service center guy said CBR comes with fully synth oil from factory. And was charged ~Rs 500 for the oil change, clearly mentioned as 10w30 fully synth oil in the bill. High revving engine, so FS is understandable.
                            So, can I go with Motul 10W40 coz, 10W30 is only available as mineral.?
                            But note that, its mentioned in Motul website itself is that they recommend the later for Honda Motorcycles which uses a 10W30.
                            The limiter kicks in @11,500 rpm just within a second after the first shift..And, that's where the fun begins !! ;)

                            My 1 Day rides - T'Log collection

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                            • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
                              My babe is on her day of second servicing.
                              "ll take her back today evening.

                              EDIT:

                              Back from second service and am now in a shock. Am looking onto you all to clear me on this doubt.

                              My odo is 3.4k and I last changed oil at .5k during first service. Today when I went to get her back after the second service, the ASC people told me that I can take my bike and am not charged anything. I was totally shocked.

                              The guy who service CBR was called and he told me that the oil was upto the level and no oil change is required. I was like WTF!? In the morning, I specially mentioned to change the engine oil and the guy who checked the bike in even noted that on the job sheet, but in the evening they are like why to change the oil when it is good. They are even saying that they checked the quality of the oil and its viscosity and both are good.

                              By question is on the basis of,
                              at the back of 2nd service coupon, it is mentioned to replace engine oil and so is at the back of 3rd and 4th. So, a change is evident for every 3.5k-4k kms. And out of my 3.5k kms, above 95% was on highways and around 100kmph and this include even 2 hours of triple digit speeds a couple of times. I didn't follow any rpm limit for run-in. I just rode as I would right from the day of purchase.

                              So, what to do now? Am totally in confused state. Help me here guys!

                              Although, I have told them that I'll back after a couple of weeks and they agreed to change the engine oil, but that too they advised me on just topping up of oil and change is not needed. I don't know why they are so hesitant to change the oil when am willing to pay for it.
                              I have the same issue now when i gave my 250R for its third service. They did everything but oil and filter change. I reminded them that they replaced my engine last month and ive clocked 1200+kms in the new engine... and it needs an oil change. They said the oil is clean and there is no need for any change.

                              But i then told the manager that i will come down next week and get the filter and oil changed and he agreed. So im spending this week maximizing my run-in with the engine and ocassionally ripping on the highways before i get it sorted out.
                              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.

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                              • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
                                So, can I go with Motul 10W40 coz, 10W30 is only available as mineral.?
                                But note that, its mentioned in Motul website itself is that they recommend the later for Honda Motorcycles which uses a 10W30.
                                ​what's the recommended grade?if it is 10 w 30, you shouldn't use 10 w 40
                                and the question remains why do i race?
                                every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                                #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                                #overkill is underrated.
                                #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                                #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                                (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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