u just dont know what i am going through right now .. this is what happened with me -
-- liked ns and booked it
-- later me and my dad went after checking out duke..
-- dad told me to go for duke
-- checked out duke thread and found only horror stories ( i have read all the posts there)
-- checked out ns thread and no problems here .. not even 1 ..
-- dad told me to cancel ns booking and go for duke
-- i am now getting some serious headache..
-- i have still not cancelled ns booking ..
heavily confused

Hey you had messaged me and I am still to reply.
But keep in mind that the duke has been around for a while now and has been bought by enthusiastic people mostly. So not even a single tiny problem would go unreported. So you'll get more reports of 'issues'.
All the bikes when launched are 'issue free' IMO. The CBR and the duke for example. Both were eagerly anticipated and people went for them. Issues did crop up for both of them later as experiences started pouring in.
The NS has only been ridden by a handful of people here and that too for not so long. Surely in 1 or 2 months' time issues would be reported here too.

PS : On my way to office today Saw a black NS on display at Sai Service just before Airoli Bridge. Took a small break to check out the bike. It was the first time I saw it in flesh. The bike does appear big. The tank and the shrouds make it look very aggressive. THe seats are definitely softer and comfier than the duke.Pillion would be happier but only just as compared to the duke because I think the rider's seat is longer than on the duke.The fit and finish is good too but looked a notch below than what we get on the duke though.The headlamps were great.
I found the black colour a bit dull. May be becuase it was a rainy and gloomy morning and the orange duke was near it. Probably black is meant for that purpose. Being invisible and stealthy. BUt the NInja Black better meets these qualities. Yellow was not on display so can't comment.
All in all the bike has great presence and would have so even more in the brighter colours.
OTR quoted was 95K. No test drives.

Hi,
Sorry for the late reply.

Ex-Showroom Price: Rs75707
Vat @12.5 % : Rs9463
Road Tax and Registration: Rs6893
Smart Card: Rs370
Insurance Comprehensive: Rs1919
Accessories: Rs788
Misc. Charges [H.C & L.U] : Rs405

Total: Rs95545
This was all that was printed on the Invoice.

Cashless : Rs300 [For claims, no money needed, it will be changed instantly such as parts or anything else]
HSRP [High Security Registration Plate] : Rs575
Affidavite : Rs350 [I didn't had all the documents needed]
Stamp Duty : Rs599 [ 2 years extra Warranty]
Final Total: Rs97369

But, it feels more when you compare to other showroom prices being offered in Delhi.

Likes:
1. The looks and its very comfortable round the corners.
2. Seats are comfortable with good grip.

Problems:
1. When I start early in the morning, left it to remain idle, the engine stops running like say after 10-15 secs. Then again I start, it happens again.
Also, I have noticed is as soon as I try to put on some throttle in neutral, it stops again. but when I ride for some km or so, then these problems are not there.
Is there any problem with tuning ? But, if yes then why it doesn't happen after some ride distance.

2. Gear: Its smooth and very effective. Only thing is when i try to move from 3rd gear to 2nd, it sometimes doesn't gets into it. I have to leave the clutch again and try again for the gear change, then it happens.

I'm through with 200 km, should I change my engine oil and get service at 600 km ?

Owners and seniors, please suggest me through my problems .

I get a little excited when I talk of P200NS.. please forgive me.. July 16th.. *how I wish it was June 16th*.. I am the 9th booking with my dealer.. and 1st guy to book Yellow (apart from me only two more guys have booked yellow it seems).. so.. fingers crossed.. hope you get to your bumblebee soon..!!

Your dad insists on the duke? wow man!! that's strange. There was a guy asking around in the duke thread, if he could somehow lessen the gap between the frame and the rear wheel as his Dad found the bike to be outlandishly sportish and hence apparently more dangerous
My suggestion : if your dad insists on the duke, go for it man. It's not worse than the NS for sure if not better. If something does go wrong, you have the excuse that he had insisted and not you .
Also you would find it easier asking for money to buy gears and powerparts by citing the higher power and torque figures and arguing that with more power comes more responsibility and responsibility means better(more expensive) gears

I think I would end up waiting 1 more month

Well, MG has gone over 10 thousand kms with the P200NS without a single problem with the bike and there were other 4 or 5 testers with him, all of them with their respective P200NS. So I guess if it wasn't mentioned after 10 thousand kms clocked under pretty much any condition and climate you can find in India that's because there are no such issues with the bike.

It is still handful of people. MG is just 1 guy. His bike might have been niggle(if at all some 200NS's have some in future) free. It is not that every duke wallah has had a coolant leakage/fork seal breach/engine shutting down/blah blah issue. I personally haven't had any of these(well almost).
The few common problems have been listed by Mountain in the duke thread yes. I agree that the affected numbers could be statistically significant, but hey let the 200NS sell in statistically significant numbers too.
What I want to say is had the 200NS been launched in place of the duke, people would be having a full list of issues too am sure by now(the list may be smaller sure). Btw I hope Bajaj has tried to avoid the issues reported for the duke in the 200NS given the fact that both the bikes share a lot.

It is still handful of people. MG is just 1 guy. His bike might have been niggle(if at all some 200NS's have some in future) free. It is not that every duke wallah has had a coolant leakage/fork seal breach/engine shutting down/blah blah issue. I personally haven't had any of these(well almost).
The few common problems have been listed by Mountain in the duke thread yes. I agree that the affected numbers could be statistically significant, but hey let the 200NS sell in statistically significant numbers too.
What I want to say is had the 200NS been launched in place of the duke, people would be having a full list of issues too am sure by now(the list may be smaller sure). Btw I hope Bajaj has tried to avoid the issues reported for the duke in the 200NS given the fact that both the bikes share a lot.

just now i had called popular bajaj in bannerghatta road and the guy was sure that they are going to launch it on 19th .. he told even the test ride will be available from 19th .. deliveries will start from 21st ..

Total Bill = Rs. 1168

Engine Oil = Rs.650
Oil Filter = Rs.74
Engine Oil Additive = Rs.98
Chain Wash = Rs. 75
Fuel injector Cleen = Rs.40
labour = 50
VAT on oil @ 20% = Rs.130
VAT on rest of all @ 12.5% = Rs.51

They were recommending Motul 7100 FS oil but later their engineer came and asked them to put DTSi oil.


Now the Mileage reoprt :
The ODO of the bike was 14 when I got the tank full, today it was 467 and again I got the tank full and it took 9.43 litres to full the tank.

Mileage = 467-14/9.43 = 48.03

My driving was mostly in the city. Never rode above 4k RPM except on 5 occasions that too only for a few hundred metres and not above 8k RPM.


P.S. : The bike was in main and NOT in reserve even after 453kms of riding.

I have recently that Bajaj Service centers are pushing in for some 3M additive for all the bikes, which ofcourse is not required and just way making money.

I would advice all 200NS owners to ask for each and every cost before the bill is made and ask the SVC guys not put any thing extra.

Out of these costs:
Engine Oil = Rs.650 (What's the exact price of Dtsi Oil / per litre)?
Oil Filter = Rs.74 (This is fine)
Engine Oil Additive = Rs.98 (Just a way of making money, not required)
Chain Wash = Rs. 75 (Generally Charged every time, but not required at least for first servicing)
Fuel injector Cleen = Rs.40 (Please do go back and ask them firmly about this, there are no injectors in 200)
labour = 50 (labour for what?)
VAT on oil @ 20% = Rs.130 (Seem, 1.4 Litre of Dtsi oil is 750 bucks! Quiet costly compared to even Motul 3100SS)

This from my experience of 9 years of different pulsar ownership.

OMG , after going through the duke ownership thread here i am pretty scared to go for duke .. my pulsar 200ns booking is still on .. any ns owners feeling engine heat after riding for a while ?

Chintan you are the once who started this thread .. I think for today your NS got old for a month..

Hi,
Sorry for the late reply.

Ex-Showroom Price: Rs75707
Vat @12.5 % : Rs9463
Road Tax and Registration: Rs6893
Smart Card: Rs370
Insurance Comprehensive: Rs1919
Accessories: Rs788
Misc. Charges [H.C & L.U] : Rs405

Total: Rs95545
This was all that was printed on the Invoice.

Cashless : Rs300 [For claims, no money needed, it will be changed instantly such as parts or anything else]
HSRP [High Security Registration Plate] : Rs575
Affidavite : Rs350 [I didn't had all the documents needed]
Stamp Duty : Rs599 [ 2 years extra Warranty]
Final Total: Rs97369

But, it feels more when you compare to other showroom prices being offered in Delhi.

Likes:
1. The looks and its very comfortable round the corners.
2. Seats are comfortable with good grip.

Problems:
1. When I start early in the morning, left it to remain idle, the engine stops running like say after 10-15 secs. Then again I start, it happens again.
Also, I have noticed is as soon as I try to put on some throttle in neutral, it stops again. but when I ride for some km or so, then these problems are not there.
Is there any problem with tuning ? But, if yes then why it doesn't happen after some ride distance.

2. Gear: Its smooth and very effective. Only thing is when i try to move from 3rd gear to 2nd, it sometimes doesn't gets into it. I have to leave the clutch again and try again for the gear change, then it happens.

I'm through with 200 km, should I change my engine oil and get service at 600 km ?

Owners and seniors, please suggest me through my problems .

my dad will be paying 1.4lakhs and if there are some issues then i would rather kick myself than report those issues to my dad .. duke is a premium product and i never expected problems from it .. my dad has owned rx100 and rd350 in the past so he is also a bike enthusiast ...5 blokes here own ns here and most of them have completed their first service , , still no issues with the ns .. everybody who own duke have reported problems from the first day itself ...

forget about 4k kms...this oil is bullcrap man...dont even last 2k properly... Will the svc guys allow motul 3100 ss?
Btw can anyone confirm if this bike has that stupid BCU thingy like the earlier pulsars....its very irritating actually... Hope it doesn't have it... And mileage of 48 is too good man i am happy with anything above 40 still no display bike in kolkata...

is anyone bothered to rply to my query...? Does this bike have the BCU thingy which earlier pulsars had..? And can anyone post a pic of the space left between the handle and the tank with the handle totally turned in... How much space is left?

Space between handle bar and tank when fully turned is harldy 1cm or so.