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**mutatedknutz** · 02-14-2014, 12:18 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Cleaner View Post

There is two schools of thoughts regarding pulling in the clutch while braking in emergency, one suggests pulling in the clutch, KTM is of that opinion as expressed in the 390 Duke owners' manual. Some says not pulling in the clutch aids in braking through engine braking, but In my experience (very limited on 4-stroke motors) there is not much engine braking in higher gears. Most of my riding has been on a RX135, which being a 2-stroke, has no engine braking.
I am really confused regarding this braking thing, so let's say, I'm coming to a stop on a P200NS, should I let go off the throttle, pull in the clutch, blip, downshift, release the clutch and repeat the process again until I come at neutral while simultaneously applying brakes or should I just pull the clutch in and keep blip downshifting till I reach neutral?

different riders brake differently, i use engine braking a lot. yes at higher gears engine braking is very less, thats why youll need to downshift.
during emergency braking, use both brakes front more, rear will get locked if you press it very hard. and try to downshift as soon as possible. use clutch to downshift. and be careful like i know you may not downshift to 1st gear when youre at a speed around 60. just in case. or else bike will skid and stall.
and why you wanna shift it to neutral? shifting to neutral will not at all help in slowing you down :/

my friend rides the clutch everytime, for braking, turning, decelerating from high speeds. hes not comfortable with engine braking.
there are many people who use the front brakes only
so its up to you how you want to brake

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Originally posted by broken87 View Post

Everyshop is giving me about Rs 500 value for the rear Euroslip tyre after 10k Kms of usage.. I can sell it and get a better one as I definitely have the budget for it. But why? I don't feel the need for it. With time a rider adjusts to the tyre's feel and rides accordingly. Though I have to admit, I don't think I've gone above 50-60 Km/h on wet roads.. it's wet grip is so unreliable under braking.
Experts I have a small problem, had my service few days back. Since then only thing that doesn't feel right is the gear shifting. They feel hard and not slot in perfectly. As I begin my first ride of the day, I get a false neutral about 4-5 times when shifting to 2nd gear from 1st. As I ride more the problem is less encountered but the overall gear shifting remains totally unsatisfactory... A very strange fact is that before servicing my gear shifts were super smooth perfect probably like a Honda bike. Absolutely no false neutral issues on fresh day's ride. Blip throttle downshifts weren't even needed. And all that was on a 3000-3200 Kms old engine oil (5100). So why now ? Is this because of improper chain slackness ? Clutch adjustment needed ? Chain is still not dirty enough.

gear shifts are hard?
try adjusting clutch cable, thats most of the times why gear shifts go hard, at least for me.
and other reason can be your engine oil, if its time for a change?
i always face hard shifts before oil change.

**Goutham Ks** · 02-14-2014, 12:19 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by shadowgun View Post

No matter what other may think, but dual tone coloured is total Bs. Looks like a p135 Literally.. [MENTION=23002]Goutham[/MENTION]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh.
To destroy a country, simply destroy its past, culture and tradition.
Remember what our ancestors died for. .
Respect our country and it's diversity.
Feel free to pm to know anything about My "Incredible India",Anything.Jai HIND.

I agree with you mate, because of p135 my bike is losing its name and reputation.

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**krish2778** · 02-14-2014, 12:20 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Cleaner View Post

There is two schools of thoughts regarding pulling in the clutch while braking in emergency, one suggests pulling in the clutch, KTM is of that opinion as expressed in the 390 Duke owners' manual. Some says not pulling in the clutch aids in braking through engine braking, but In my experience (very limited on 4-stroke motors) there is not much engine braking in higher gears. Most of my riding has been on a RX135, which being a 2-stroke, has no engine braking.
I am really confused regarding this braking thing, so let's say, I'm coming to a stop on a P200NS, should I let go off the throttle, pull in the clutch, blip, downshift, release the clutch and repeat the process again until I come at neutral while simultaneously applying brakes or should I just pull the clutch in and keep blip downshifting till I reach neutral?

It cannot be pointed to as a specific way, it depends on the situation at hand and how much time you have to react and distance involved too, if you see a threat crossing over from a safe distance but at high speed, you can do the downshift method along with brakes and will give a superior control..there are some situations where the distance is less, you can shit to a considerably lower gear and disengage the clutch, of-course it will give a hard yank at you , but along with proper braking if you can control the bike, if will help in stopping in time,

also a very important thing is to practice progressive braking method, search youtube for progressive braking, you will an idea, on practice you will understand that in most time that is more than enough to bring the bike to a halt without any unwanted mishap.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**Goutham Ks** · 02-14-2014, 12:28 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by shreezan View Post

To all the guys who think dual toned ns s*cks.. I mean, does it really ? :P ! To my eyes, this ns has the killer looks

.. and i am its proud owner

.. [ATTACH=CONFIG]136185[/ATTACH]

Where have you bought the hand guards? I was unaware that hand guards are available for pulsar.

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**pratiksgole** · 02-14-2014, 04:04 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by shreezan View Post

To all the guys who think dual toned ns s*cks.. I mean, does it really ? :P ! To my eyes, this ns has the killer looks

.. and i am its proud owner

.. [ATTACH=CONFIG]136185[/ATTACH]

I don't mean to offend you , but if possible remove the blue thing with monster and a hawk . It just looks cheap . Don't make the multi tone even more uglier . It's what we call in mumbai as what chapri people would do . Get a normal looking one :P

**shadowgun** · 02-14-2014, 04:09 PM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh.

**ankur2smart** · 02-14-2014, 04:54 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Cleaner View Post

There is two schools of thoughts regarding pulling in the clutch while braking in emergency, one suggests pulling in the clutch, KTM is of that opinion as expressed in the 390 Duke owners' manual. Some says not pulling in the clutch aids in braking through engine braking, but In my experience (very limited on 4-stroke motors) there is not much engine braking in higher gears. Most of my riding has been on a RX135, which being a 2-stroke, has no engine braking.
I am really confused regarding this braking thing, so let's say, I'm coming to a stop on a P200NS, should I let go off the throttle, pull in the clutch, blip, downshift, release the clutch and repeat the process again until I come at neutral while simultaneously applying brakes or should I just pull the clutch in and keep blip downshifting till I reach neutral?

KTM's suggestion might be based on the fact that, 390 is ABS equipped. Any way, I used to engage clutch before braking. However, after my friend pointing it out, I have stopped doing & it has worked wonders for me. I instantly felt more confident.
As per me you can do this for braking:
Apply both the brakes with front being 60-70% & as your speed falls, you can start downshifting. No need to downshift in the beginning.

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**Satellite.kid** · 02-14-2014, 05:05 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

The idea of engine braking is to aid traction on the rear tyre. Why rear tyre? Because it's connected to the engine! Engine braking naturally provides some level of traction to the wheel in the absence of a dedicated traction control system. For example, if your motorcycle goes into neutral or you hold the clutch during a lean then you'll obviously not feel confident during that time because you do not have control on the rear wheel. That is why and ideally, the clutch should be engaged only while downshifting or while coming to a stop. Holding the clutch should be avoided, as much as possible, if you are braking only to slow down. However, you will probably need to use the clutch to smooth out the acceleration (if you're not in the right gear) when you will accelerate again after slowing down. And this goes irrespective of your riding technique.

**broken87** · 02-14-2014, 05:25 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post

The idea of engine braking is to aid traction on the rear tyre. Why rear tyre? Because it's connected to the engine! Engine braking naturally provides some level of traction to the wheel in the absence of a dedicated traction control system. For example, if your motorcycle goes into neutral or you hold the clutch during a lean then you'll obviously not feel confident during that time because you do not have control on the rear wheel. That is why and ideally, the clutch should be engaged only while downshifting or while coming to a stop. Holding the clutch should be avoided, as much as possible, if you are braking only to slow down. However, you will probably need to use the clutch to smooth out the acceleration (if you're not in the right gear) when you will accelerate again after slowing down. And this goes irrespective of your riding technique.

Yes, said it all correctly.

**Aditya N Bharadwaj** · 02-14-2014, 07:45 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Cleaner View Post

There is two schools of thoughts regarding pulling in the clutch while braking in emergency, one suggests pulling in the clutch, KTM is of that opinion as expressed in the 390 Duke owners' manual. Some says not pulling in the clutch aids in braking through engine braking, but In my experience (very limited on 4-stroke motors) there is not much engine braking in higher gears. Most of my riding has been on a RX135, which being a 2-stroke, has no engine braking.
I am really confused regarding this braking thing, so let's say, I'm coming to a stop on a P200NS, should I let go off the throttle, pull in the clutch, blip, downshift, release the clutch and repeat the process again until I come at neutral while simultaneously applying brakes or should I just pull the clutch in and keep blip downshifting till I reach neutral?

This is how I do it and this technique has never ever failed me: Motorcycle Rev Matching - YouTube

I used to blindly downshift for engine braking without rev-matching before and then wonder why my chain would get loose once in a week. Now, it takes atleast a month for the chain to get loose. My revs are usually around the 5-7k rpm range.

**yashpreet singh** · 02-14-2014, 08:12 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Lone wolf View Post

Have you done any mods, none right ? Or am I missing something ?

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no mods done yet. i made them both front and rear number plates myself.

i used matte black paint for the engine and every other part.

did it myself...//

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Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

The fender eliminator is a good touch, btw, the missing RVM is a eyesore and also a bad move too.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

pulsars are all about the tail section so i removed the fender and made myself new number plates (front and rear).

it looks much better this way and im planning a new two tone look

any suggestions...?

**Cleaner** · 02-14-2014, 08:47 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by yashpreet singh View Post

it looks much better this way and im planning a new two tone look
[ATTACH=CONFIG]136295[/ATTACH]

any suggestions...?

Why man just why? People are paying more for the Mustard Yellow colored NS and you want dual tone colors? Sell me the plastic parts please

**Goutham Ks** · 02-14-2014, 10:16 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

When I should take emission test? As I've not taken.

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**shadowgun** · 02-14-2014, 10:19 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Goutham Ks View Post

When I should take emission test? As I've not taken.

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh.

**Goutham Ks** · 02-14-2014, 10:22 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by shadowgun View Post

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh.

I'm from Karnataka here it's for every six months and my bike is just a week old. I heard it's not necessary for new bikes. Should I take emission test right away?

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