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  • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

    Originally posted by anishkrissh View Post
    guys talking about the quality my choke cable was damaged.... my bike has completed 8000km
    my i had a tvs victor gl, i never had to change the choke cable infact never had to use that and i was getting great mileage from that bike
    i also had a bajaj pulsar 180 which also, but then never had to use the choke to start my bike...
    every talking about the quality of honda... after using these bikes i never enjoyed quality of my victor gl(after changing it's plug to iridium) in any bikes i have used, and the quality seems to be dimnishing.... year after year....

    the service center guys of honda never hear anything from us... most of them are posers... and i'm not getting enough to my bike.....
    the engine of my bike is smooth, but it has to get the care it needed.... for mileage purpose they are using 10w30 engine oil.. usually in indian condition the engine oil must atleast be 20w40.. 10w30 drains faster and the oil burns as the engine heats up and it is bad for the bike....

    note this always use 20w40 engine oil of elf,shell, motul or mobil1 (semisynthetic or synthetic) for your bike these are the best oil you can get
    I agree on the quality and asc part...
    I also agree that thicker oils hold on to their viscosity better than thinner oils.. say 20W50 to 10w30...
    Heres where you are wrong... 10w30 oil... or thin oil... or any other grade of oil has to do with engine clearances more so then mileage..... some engines have very tight clearances...... hence they require a 10w30 oil... whereas some engines have 'wider' clearances and need 20w50... it all comes down to the engine design, even the manufacturing process etc....
    Also, bad mileage figures with thicker oils is due to the fact the engine has to overcome higher frictional forces and pump action in order to push the thicker oil around... also in an engine that relies on oil splashing in the sump to lube up the bore... using a thicker oil can result is quicker bore wear..(your engine!)
    Your better off with a synthetic 10w30 recommend grade... v/s a mineral 20w40.. the synthetic will hold itself better than any mineral grade...
    I hope you dont find this offensive my friend. I just wanted to explain something. If I may have sounded impolite please take it that its the typing and in real life I would have explained it better face to face

    Divyansh....

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    • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

      Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
      I agree on the quality and asc part...
      I also agree that thicker oils hold on to their viscosity better than thinner oils.. say 20W50 to 10w30...
      Heres where you are wrong... 10w30 oil... or thin oil... or any other grade of oil has to do with engine clearances more so then mileage..... some engines have very tight clearances...... hence they require a 10w30 oil... whereas some engines have 'wider' clearances and need 20w50... it all comes down to the engine design, even the manufacturing process etc....
      Also, bad mileage figures with thicker oils is due to the fact the engine has to overcome higher frictional forces and pump action in order to push the thicker oil around... also in an engine that relies on oil splashing in the sump to lube up the bore... using a thicker oil can result is quicker bore wear..(your engine!)
      Your better off with a synthetic 10w30 recommend grade... v/s a mineral 20w40.. the synthetic will hold itself better than any mineral grade...
      I hope you dont find this offensive my friend. I just wanted to explain something. If I may have sounded impolite please take it that its the typing and in real life I would have explained it better face to face

      Divyansh....
      the oil viscosity is determined not only with the engine bore or stroke but also with the temperature it produces and the temperature the oil gets when the engine is off ..
      have you experienced black smoke coming from your bike if not just put your bike in the central stand make your gear in neutral and just give a quick throttle you can see black smoke coming out from silencer..... i have seen it that's y...

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      • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

        ASC - authorized service center a.k.a ASS- authorized service station ... there is nothing to be naive about as long as you are willing to learn

        A pulsar is a pulsar and apache is an apache.. since you own a trigger, ride another trigger. Like i mentioned earlier, I get pain in my left hand if i ride a pulsar but not any other bike. First stop posting here, and check you tire pressures and head to the svc to sort it out.
        Your bike isn't going to heal itself just because you continue to post here and do no work on the bike. I think you have received enough advice thus far

        It's not a big decision or thing to do.. its as simple as writing an email to them (about which i have mentioned in my earlier post too) [email protected] / [email protected]
        I have complained a couple of times and their response was quick and the issues were resolved.
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        • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

          Originally posted by anishkrissh View Post
          the oil viscosity is determined not only with the engine bore or stroke but also with the temperature it produces and the temperature the oil gets when the engine is off ..
          have you experienced black smoke coming from your bike if not just put your bike in the central stand make your gear in neutral and just give a quick throttle you can see black smoke coming out from silencer..... i have seen it that's y...
          First of all I said engine clearences not bore stroke... there is a difference.
          Second of all burning oil will produce white smoke and never black smoke. What you see is probably a fuel issue (adultration, quality, afr ratio towards the richer end).


          Divyansh....

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          • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

            Originally posted by anishkrissh View Post
            ....... the service center guys of honda never hear anything from us... most of them are posers... and i'm not getting enough to my bike.....
            the engine of my bike is smooth, but it has to get the care it needed.... ......
            Hello Both New Trigger Owners,

            I have also purchased Trigger on 1st April and have gone through lot of EXPERIENCES of Honda after sales team. (Refer to my previous posts)
            Thankfully, it all ended on a good note and I got all my problem fixed but after a long battle.
            I would advice you both to drop a mail at [email protected] and they will surely follow up.
            It took me around 2 months and about 15-16 mails to get these problems fixed altogether but afterall ' ant bhala to sab bhala'
            Remember, if they are harassing you then you have equal right to harass them the official way.
            Have faith and patience and fight for money you paid for getting your ride. Legally Honda has to answer to your queries submitted at their official mail ID.

            Let me know if you need any help and I will guide you about how to become their headache.

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            • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

              Aisa bhala kis kam ka jisme apna hi ant ho jaye and that too to just get your vehicle problems recitfied, but anyhow congrats atleast you have got your problems solved forever i hope.

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              • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

                Guys, what's the holder / socket type for the headlight on Trigger? I'm planning to get Philips EV for the bike as an upgrade, so wanted to check before I buy.

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                • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

                  has anyone upgraded your tyre........ to 90/90 - 17 TT/TL front and 120/80 - 17rear??
                  is it a good choice upgrade tyre

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                  • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

                    I've posted my review of the bike after 5K km here: Honda CB Trigger: A New Low In Honda’s Quality | Sanjay Varanasi

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                    • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

                      You are right,one of my cousin faced the similar fate. Honda has degraded its quality to extreme low. Only saving grace is, his Trigger gives milege of around 55KMPL. Except that, every thing in the bike is falling apart within 8 months and 2x K kms. He never faced the problem with his Previous Unicorn in 4 years and 100K of ownership. Now he is thinking of exchanging it with another Unicorn(Hope fully, the new Uni's quality is the same).
                      HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                      • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

                        Originally posted by hellmet View Post
                        I've posted my review of the bike after 5K km here: Honda CB Trigger: A New Low In Honda’s Quality | Sanjay Varanasi

                        me too is facing the same problem.................... with the align i first thougt it was just lack of tyre pressure... but it is not........

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                        • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

                          Originally posted by sambit View Post
                          You are right,one of my cousin faced the similar fate. Honda has degraded its quality to extreme low. Only saving grace is, his Trigger gives milege of around 55KMPL. Except that, every thing in the bike is falling apart within 8 months and 2x K kms. He never faced the problem with his Previous Unicorn in 4 years and 100K of ownership. Now he is thinking of exchanging it with another Unicorn(Hope fully, the new Uni's quality is the same).
                          Quality of new unicorn is also the same so think again.

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                          • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

                            Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                            Quality of new unicorn is also the same so think again.
                            has anyone got the problem of having not getting enough power or inconsistent rpm (not about the choke cable) or or not feeling much power.........??

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                            hello, Do you know that the power of cb trigger has been updated ......? does somone the same upgradation can be done in our bike tooo......?

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                            • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

                              do you experience the petrol tank vibration at certain speed? what is solution for that?

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                              • Re: Problem with my new bike's handle bar alignment

                                Originally posted by hellmet View Post
                                I've posted my review of the bike after 5K km here: Honda CB Trigger: A New Low In Honda’s Quality | Sanjay Varanasi
                                Originally posted by anishkrissh View Post
                                has anyone got the problem of having not getting enough power or inconsistent rpm (not about the choke cable) or or not feeling much power.........??

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                                hello, Do you know that the power of cb trigger has been updated ......? does somone the same upgradation can be done in our bike tooo......?
                                Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                                Quality of new unicorn is also the same so think again.
                                Seeing a lot of quality gurus around lately.
                                And [MENTION=19941]hellmet[/MENTION], on your blog you talk about the fz1 and a 150cc bike in the same sentence. I guess you are mentioning the FZ16.
                                Ppl are downright ready to bash the entire brand for one 'bad' experience. (talking about the product, not about the customer service which is non existent in India, be it any brand of vehicle) -- If that is the case to judge a brand, then name a brand and i will show you a VERY BAD review for it !
                                And hellmet my friend, you should have taken a test ride before you buy a bike --maybe that would have alerted you about the 'bad' suspension you are complaining about.
                                Next, i wonder why ppl these days are hell bent on having an engine kill switch !! Is it a rocket or a space ship that it is so complicated to shut it down and start back ?

                                Rear view mirrors ? I have ridden a trigger and if the mirrors are adjusted correctly they do the job well.. same with a unicorn. Now do you know the pulsar 220 is notorious for its disfunctional mirrors ? But guys have happily done a mod of welding on apaches' mirrors..and the 220 is a well received bike though it has/had some quality issues.
                                Cheap looking brake pedals ? Why don't you at least google some pics of rear brake pedals on some of the bikes sold worldwide and see how they look. We are very apt at pointing out 'cheap' 'looking' without complete knowledge about an item.
                                Engine harshness, i never really felt that, only maybe it because the carb was tuned on the leaner side.. same with the unicorns since the past couple of years.. due to our desi obsession with kitna deti hai

                                Paint - you should have pushed for warranty.. and did you know some hero bikes exhibit a bluish tinge when they get wet in the rain ? And that's for some reason supposed to be normal !

                                I do ride a unicorn often and if maintained correctly, it is as reliable as the 'older' unicorn. Yes, the headlight sucks though (as much as it does on the karizma and a few other bikes too). A lot of other people (not referring to you hellmet), are negligent on maintenance and one fine day suddenly wake up when the bike gives trouble.

                                Let us take this forum as an example: how many ppl do you see posting issues about the unicorn/trigger compared to lets say a CBZ xtreme ? , Ppl start searching for solutions online and end up posting requests for help here and we see less traffic on issues related to honda, when you compare it with a bajaj(which is bashed left n right by our quality gurus) or a hero.

                                Guys understand, at the end of the day it is a machine, and might have a couple of niggles.. its up to the individual on how he wants to handle it. There is no dearth of people who go on and put their stamp of 'quality' which i feel is in no way superior to the manufacturers' QC.
                                [MENTION=35824]anishkrissh[/MENTION] -- if you mean that the bike feels hesitant or hiccuping while acceleration, then first get the air filter cleaned or replaced and then have the carb inspected. And what do you mean by 'power of cb trigger has been updated' ? where did you get this info ? If it was indeed updated, dont expect it to take off like a jet

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