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  • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

    Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
    1. How is the bike doing after almost a year?
    Any parts not holding up?

    2. What are the scheduled replacements and cost? (I know the rear brake pad costs Rs.267)

    3. Compare it with R15 (not in terms of handling, simply in terms of power)

    4. How is the SVC response and quality of workmanship? Cost of maintenance (other than tyres)

    5. What does your heart say, a year after owning this bike?

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    1.closing to a year only now.but due to the nature of the engine,few parts do come loose-requires tightening occasionally.most users may agree to this.

    2.fully satisfied by bajaj spares/servicing cost.if only the asc experiences were equally as good.

    3.come on. even just in paper specs the answer is obvious.once u ride a 390 ,other bikes won't satisfy your hunger for acceleration. this is actually a high revver.power is still at top.

    4.cost of maintenance: economical/Indian!. workmanship not so satisfactory. u will have to bug them a lot and be very persistent even during pdi.but users here know which the better SVC's are around resp. locations.

    5.still vfm.vfm.vfm.if it were not for the ever present quality niggles and asc quality.still no competition.

    by now most of the newer batches are better built actually.KTM do learn from their mistakes I suppose.
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    • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

      Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
      Wow. What happened to the R-sold?
      Yes, sold the bike to a friend of mine. The R15 is a special bike and will remain so.

      My initial questions to you (and others) are as follows:
      1. How is the bike doing after almost a year?
      Any parts not holding up?

      My bike is holding up well. The engine is a gem. The cycle parts are good. I however faced a couple of irritations -

      - The speedo meter plastic is very delicate and any wipe with a dry cloth will cause micro-scratches that will reflect under light. I touch the console only with a wet cloth.
      - The chain needs to be kept clean. Other wise foot pegs vibes creep in - just like the R15.
      - The oil filter cap has slight oil weep. Not sure what is the issue - gasket or the mating surface. Not bothered about it at the moment.
      - The gap between the 2 rear wheel huggers spray water like anything on the rear shock absorber. Need to do something about it.
      - The clutch is heavy - there is no 2 ways about it. My daily commute is 20 kms in peak traffic. The hand does get a bit tired at the end.
      - There is a sound coming from under the rear seat. It is heard on hitting sharp bump edges. Irritating. Must be some wire sockets banging on the plastic. Need to fix it.

      2. What are the scheduled replacements and cost? (I know the rear brake pad costs Rs.267)

      - Front pad costs the same too. I have replaced them at around 7k kms. It will cost Rs.1500-1800 per service. Major cost will be the tyres at around 16k. Based on my bike, they will need to be replaced at around 15k kms mark.

      3. Compare it with R15 (not in terms of handling, simply in terms of power)

      The power curve is actually quite similar. The bike engine pulls but grudges under 4k rpm, feels best at 5k rpm and above and the power surge at 7k rpm is actually scary under wrong road conditions. Quite similar to R15, just that it has more power everywhere. Other than that, the engine is unburstable during highway runs and never loses composure - again, just like the R15. Speeds of 120-130kmph will seem like 90-100kmph on the R15. Just like the R15 starts straining post 120kmph, this bike slows down post 150kmph. Also, just like the R15, the 6th gear can only be comfortably engaged post 70 kmph.

      There is one difference though, the bike heats up in traffic, and if you are stuck in < 10kmph jams for 15 mins or more, the bike will heat up. However, give it a free run, it cools down just as quickly.

      Other than that, I am not sure if you have noticed, on the R15, there is a cyclic RPM surge and drop at around 3k rpm when the throttle is held constant in lower gears. The same issue is there on this bike too - just that the increased amount of power makes this more apparent and hence is a bit irritating in slow moving traffic.

      The brakes with ABS is good. I have had the (mis?)fortune to put them to test a couple of times at speeds between 20-80kmph. Never a skid and always stopped before the expected distance. However, at low speed and riding over gravelly road, the ABS will prolong the braking distance a wee bit as the tyres can not lock and dig in to the road. The lever push back takes some time to get used to.

      The lack of fairing is both a blessing and a curse. Blessing in that crosswinds are not felt at all unlike the R15. Curse in that, anything above 100kmph, you are basically hanging on to the handle bar for life - the wind + the acceleration will make sure of that! I needed to get a windshield fitted on. And that took care of the problem.

      The suspensions are stiff and are similar to those of the R15.

      The handling is at par with the R15, just that it is more flickable than the R15. Also, coming from the R15, it takes some time to get used to.

      4. How is the SVC response and quality of workmanship? Cost of maintenance (other than tyres)

      Better than the Yamaha SVCs. However, I do not have much experience with them apart from the regular services. Cost is as mentioned above.

      5. What does your heart say, a year after owning this bike?

      I would say, with the R15 setting the bar so high, this bike still feels like a definite upgrade in all ways. The outright build quality will seem a little lower (the plastics mostly), however, they will hold on just fine. The power is amazing and with the rest of the package is actually usable. In the initial days, used to get a feeling of superiority and almost used to feel disdain for other vehicles on the road - power does corrupt. Other than that, since I use the bike majorly within city, I have 2 complaints - the clutch lever should have been softer and the rpm surge issue should have been not there.

      Before buying this bike, I felt this bike would have been the best bike to buy in 300-400cc range in India, and now, after almost a year, the conviction remains.
      Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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      • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
        Trust me, though there might be lots of personal thoughts and experiences, personally I much dislike the idling note of the bike. But twist the wrist and the sense of urgency it has and the exhaust note is nothing sort of bassy -- boy, it's just excellent. Only you reach illegal speeds so fast, you always have to ride the in the 4 t 4.5-5k rpm here in city. Stretch its legs, and it can give you experiences. Think of this.. With Duke 390 it's a one-night stand, every single time you crank it up. I can't get any more explicit than this, such is the audacity of this machine.
        I guess I will also ignore how it sounds!
        The performance sounds phenomenal. Can't wait to experience it.:thumbup:
        Sprocket issue have been rectified and replaced by the company for free on all affected Duke (again a design defect) Secondly, very early batches did have some oil leak issues, busted seal, all were taken care of promptly. Secondly the oil leak was a design fault in and of itself, not a manufacturing defect per se. Newer models have been rectified with such issue and yes occasional issue does pop up.
        Reliability for now, most owners are happy even all these niggles have been sorted by the SVC promptly. If you'd recall, the CBR250 had it's fair share of issues when launched in India, but all were promptly rectified in the further lots continually. And I don't think KTM is too is on the right track. Think of this when you manufacture a bike ground up, certain issues do pop over the long run, but all issues are continually being rectified and improved by KTM engineers.
        I agree, I'm yet to see any engine related failures like on the Ceeber.
        All SVCs in my opinion are not the best. You see, an chap at the SVC either can make your day positive or negative depending upon the bikes they handle on that unfortunate day your bike is in the SVC. Less bikes = Good job, more bikes = Delay, clumsy work, high chances of repeat visit. It's been the case in all the different brand of bikes I've owned.
        Compare with R15, simply in terms of power = (Need I elaborate more?) Not to diss the R15, it's one of the best 150cc bikes one can lay their hands on. The problem with enthusiasts is this. Whenever they see a bike powerful or that has a little more oomph than theirs, they immediately start comparing it to their bikes. It's not a bad attitude per se, but just a little wise thought would yield the desired results. Remember, each motorcycle has its own character, pretty much like a human being. You can't compare Sachin Tendulkar's skills with that of a Marc Marquez, though both are excellent sportsmen in their own way. Just so you get the point.
        Sorry forgot to elaborate. I'm considering an upgrade only, not a city commuter replacement.
        When I used to tour on the R15, I used to wish for 25-30kgs. extra body weight so as to not to be affected by cross winds, and having 25-30%+ usable power in reserve for overtaking even at 100kmph. Simply put, I wished for it to do 120 at 7K RPM instead of 101kmph!
        Cost of ownership is not too pinchy on the pocket, nor is it affordable for a common man. The oil price alone would make a lot of folks to reconsider. But if you can own it, you definitely can do the bills. If you can't then don't buy the bike. I always say.
        It sounds pretty much affordable. Tyres are acceptable.
        Originally posted by senotrius View Post
        4.cost of maintenance: economical/Indian!. workmanship not so satisfactory. u will have to bug them a lot and be very persistent even during pdi.but users here know which the better SVC's are around resp. locations.
        If I buy the RC, PDI guidelines will be welcome!
        Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
        Some more questions:
        1. The bike looks small. How heavy/stable does it feel on a 4 lane highway?

        2. Pillion comfort? Just in case.

        3. What's gonna be different in the RC?
        Has anyone (I know Riaz has) ridden it?

        4. Tank range on a ride

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        Last edited by Sarvajit; 07-25-2014, 11:38 PM.
        Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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        • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

          Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
          Some more questions:
          1. The bike looks small. How heavy/stable does it feel on a 4 lane highway?

          Much more stable than the R15. Crosswinds affect it much less. However, for you to be stable on the bike at speeds post 120 kmph, a windscreen is needed.

          2. Pillion comfort? Just in case.

          Nothing to write home about. Usable in a pinch. More than the seat size, the issue is with the acceleration.

          3. What's gonna be different in the RC?
          Has anyone (I know Riaz has) ridden it?

          4. Tank range on a ride

          200+kms. On the highway, at 100kmph, mileage will be 28-30 kmpl.

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          • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

            Originally posted by The Pain View Post
            The bike looks great!! Good Job.

            Thanks for like The Pain,
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            • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

              Originally posted by kkamaleshh View Post
              Visited ass and my battery positive terminal was broken. That's the problem. Rectified. By the way air filter cleaned,injector, spark plug cleaned.
              Glad it was a simple issue that was traced out quickly. btw.. on reading some of the recent posts on the duke's there seem to be some issues which have been tricky to sort out. like someone mentioned about the speedo error's and was later found that the speedo units slightly differ from the 2013 versions etc etc.. glad the issue are being caught and fixed.

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              • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

                Originally posted by mustang28 View Post
                I bought a R15 couple of weeks ago over a DUke 390 because I did not have the money to go in for a DUke 390.
                But after riding the R15 for a good 700kms, I am very disappointed by its low end torque and acceleration (i have owned a RE Classic 500 earlier). Today, a guy on Honda Shine overtook me while starting from a traffic light. The other day, the bike refused to go over a certain climb on the road.
                So I am looking to sell the R15 and get a Duke 390. I still do not have the money but I am willing to beg, borrow and steal!

                Do you guys think it is worth it? Am stuck in a big dilemma here.

                P.S: Other option would be to wait for R25 but 1. do not know when it is coming 2. the value of R15 would have depreciated quite a lot by then.
                Interested in no other bikes.
                Dude, you are riding the R15 like your Classic500. You can wring the throttle hard of the R15 (unlike the Clas500)..and that s how it is meant to be ridden. Also, you need to steer the entire bike with your body with your thighs hugging the petrol tank...instead of slowing down and turning the handle (like Class500). I had the same issue moving from ZMA to CBR250... and I learnt that Duke390 too behaves similarly due to the lack of low end torque (gearing). But you will 'learn' the new style after a few months....

                so don't sweat or cry... enjoy your bike. R15. Try to ride during lower traffic (early morning)...as R15/CBRs put too much stress on your wrist.

                Enjoy

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                • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

                  Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                  My initial questions to you (and others) are as follows:
                  1. How is the bike doing after almost a year?
                  Any parts not holding up?

                  2. What are the scheduled replacements and cost? (I know the rear brake pad costs Rs.267)

                  3. Compare it with R15 (not in terms of handling, simply in terms of power)

                  4. How is the SVC response and quality of workmanship? Cost of maintenance (other than tyres)

                  5. What does your heart say, a year after owning this bike?

                  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo using xBhp Connect mobile app

                  1. Bike is doing very well. No problems so far. Some minor but known problems are:

                  a. bike switching off when riding at low speeds and depressing clutch (but this has been solved by some guys on internet. They made a video too), I did not get this solved because its not a big issue for me,
                  b. a longer crank may be required to start it sometimes,
                  c. the fairer gender isn't too happy with the rear seat, and they make it apparent. Earlier, I didn't give a damn, but I'm 28 now.. so I guess I'll have to...

                  2. Services may go expensive about 1000-2500 per service including oil & other replacements. Tyres are expensive at 16000 a pair, but there are alternatives...
                  For me, its a little more because a very good mechanic comes from Jaipur to service it in Ajmer. (+1000)

                  3. Its similar to R15 in a way. Except that R15 can be somehow ridden at slow speeds in top gear, this bike can't be.
                  For example, you can hold 35 kmph on 6th gear on R15 (although it will be super-lethargic-and-lazy) but for Duke 390, you will need atleast 55-60 kmph just to hold the gear somehow. Below this, it produces noticeable engine lash.
                  R15 is like a mini Duke 390, you can say. The engine needs to be revved hard most of the time to get moving.

                  But yes, Duke 390's upper powerband, above 5 krpm, that's where the power starts rising.... And an unsuspectible friend who thought Duke was "just another premium bike" gets a push of a lifetime. Thankfully, the stock tyres grip well for this kind of power rush that pushes you back if you're not paying attention.

                  I give bikes to my old friends, that's a known fact. One such guy took this bike for a round, he rode under 4000 rpm and he was like "achi bike hai yar, not bad". Another day, when we were riding together, he decided to push it.... he just went upto 7 krpm, lost nerve and backed down immediately. Power rush is not that frightening, but he wasn't ready for it.

                  4. I have a very good mechanic in contact from Jaipur. He's the head mechanic, and so far only he has touched my bike. And seeing him do his work, I knew he knows what he's doing. And after services, I only found my bike to be getting better and better. He's that good.
                  The bike is ok, but you would do well to find a good mechanic for it.

                  Seeing the issues that other bikers faced, I dare not hand over my bike to another mechanic.
                  You can ride my bike, you can rev it hard, but don't ever come near with a spanner. That's just not ok by me.


                  5. My heart says that years later, I might get bored with Duke 390's power rush. I might look for alternatives again. India would've changed by then: there will be various fast bikes launched & made in India.
                  But even then, I will remember these days when markets didn't have a decent alternative but KTM stood with us. I will remember dominating the roads as if only I pay tax. I will remember the photography, the touring, the KTM Trackday at BIC....
                  And probably, my next bike would be a KTM too.
                  Because if I didn't get one, I might probably be stuck with a reliable but heavy kind of bike, that doesn't look fun, and that isn't this much fun to ride....

                  Want someone to get rid of depression? Give the patient a Duke 390 and set him free... When he overtakes traffic as if he's a rocket, the adrenaline rushing through the veins, there will be nothing left to be depressed about....
                  This bike changes the way you'll ride bikes. For majority of the time, you will learn to hold restraint just to accommodate other road users... It matures you in a way.
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                  • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

                    Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                    This bike changes the way you'll ride bikes. For majority of the time, you will learn to hold restraint just to accommodate other road users... It matures you in a way.
                    Exactly! Either you mature quickly and learn where to apply how much power or there would be a crash awaiting you down the road. In that sense, this is a much more engaging bike to ride.
                    Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                    • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

                      Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                      This bike changes the way you'll ride bikes. For majority of the time, you will learn to hold restraint just to accommodate other road users... It matures you in a way.
                      The bike definitely changes the way you ride!! But for me it was the other way round - the bikes does not like to be restrained
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                      • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

                        I was doing a high speed run and it suddenly started raining and the roads became wet. I was at 163 kmph and a car was in front of me so obviously I had to brake hard. Guess what? The bike did not even fish tail even a single bit! It stayed on it's line and slowed down comfortably from 163 kmph to 60-70 odd kmph. What kind of sorcery is this Duke 390? Hahaha! I'm loving my bike more every single day.

                        Reminds me of a quote in KTM Duke 390 Power Drift review. "This is the safest bike you can ride fast in India." How true.

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                        Last edited by tusharsmoily; 07-28-2014, 10:35 AM.

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                        • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

                          Originally posted by tusharsmoily View Post
                          I was doing a high speed run and it suddenly started raining and the roads became wet. I was at 163 kmph and a car was in front of me so obviously I had to brake hard. Guess what? The bike did not even fish tail even a single bit! It stayed on it's line and slowed down comfortably from 163 kmph to 60-70 odd kmph. What kind of sorcery is this Duke 390? Hahaha! I'm loving my bike more every single day.

                          Reminds me of a quote in KTM Duke 390 Power Drift review. "This is the safest bike you can ride fast in India." How true.

                          Sent from my HTC Desire 310 dual sim using xBhp Connect mobile app
                          I would say you were lucky. I was riding my friend's Duke in heavy rains a few days ago at moderate speed. The car in front of me decided to suddenly brake for no apparent reason, so I had to brake hard. My rear tyre went out of line with the front tyre and I fell. Fortunately I wasn't run over by anyone (I was wearing a helmet). The handlebar and forks were bent amongst other damages. My friend has claimed for insurance, but I'm expecting a bill north of 4k [emoji29]

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                          • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

                            Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                            Want someone to get rid of depression? Give the patient a Duke 390 and set him free... When he overtakes traffic as if he's a rocket, the adrenaline rushing through the veins, there will be nothing left to be depressed about....
                            This bike changes the way you'll ride bikes. For majority of the time, you will learn to hold restraint just to accommodate other road users... It matures you in a way.
                            Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                            In the initial days, used to get a feeling of superiority and almost used to feel disdain for other vehicles on the road - power does corrupt.

                            Damn right you two! Esp on highways, it gets boring after a point of time when you so easily dominate everything The power does corrupt you

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                            Originally posted by ags1773 View Post
                            I would say you were lucky. I was riding my friend's Duke in heavy rains a few days ago at moderate speed. The car in front of me decided to suddenly brake for no apparent reason, so I had to brake hard. My rear tyre went out of line with the front tyre and I fell. Fortunately I wasn't run over by anyone (I was wearing a helmet). The handlebar and forks were bent amongst other damages. My friend has claimed for insurance, but I'm expecting a bill north of 4k [emoji29]
                            Was your bike in a straight line? If it was leaned over even slightly, then ABS cant help. Otherwise, it is very surprising that the rear tyre went out of line when ABS prevents wheel locking.
                            Hope you are alright buddy.
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                            • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

                              Had gone to Mumbai over the weekend. Amazing ride on wet surface, Metzelers were amazing. Was crusing around 110-120 cz of rain, dint feel like going above that. Pics attached.
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                              • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences

                                Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

                                Was your bike in a straight line? If it was leaned over even slightly, then ABS cant help. Otherwise, it is very surprising that the rear tyre went out of line when ABS prevents wheel locking.
                                Hope you are alright buddy.

                                I was a bit leaned over. I don't blame the bike, the accident happened partly because of my indecision (I don't have much experience of riding in heavy rains). I was lucky to get away with some bruises. Thanks for the concern [emoji18].

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