its good to hear that fiero still has respect in people's heart, i am in love with this bike for years, i had an option of swapping to a zmr but i gave it up and kept my baby alive...
i am sure you will achieve your goal buddy
by the way i plan to hit 1 lac...
all the best and let us know about further things..

@ chief ashman
this is exactly what older bikes suffer from,
and please don't flatter me i myself am a lost soul regarding stuff
you'll come to know if you browse through help me section
i just got work done, so its a fresh knowledge I've acquired.
please stay away from bad fuel.
after hearing blue smoke, maybe people will try to add impurities in their tank to get a particular color smoke from their silencers to match the color of the bike and as a style statement too ...

What is the range for 20w40 mineral oils.
I used Castrol 4T 20w40 which is quite expensive here compared to other oils in the same category... but the oil vanished in 1200 kms. Quite surprising!!! but, maybe not .... as there seem to be quite a lot of counterfeits in the market. As I said before, I have done 3200 kms without changing oil before.
But, I still feel one should at least get 2K from 20w40 mineral oils.

I had to fill-up in a hurry so got 20W50 mineral (Kawasaki) ... the only one available at the small service shop near my house. The bike is better now... but I doubt this oil, I know it is not the right grade.... is it ok to use it for some time? or is it too thick for Fiero?

any grade of the oil is determined by XX W XX
here XX can be any no say 20, 30, 40 10 etc

in 20 W 40 oil, 20 is the viscosity of the oil at 0 degree Celsius
while 40 is the viscosity at 100 degree Celsius

u can put any oil starting from 20 W XX
XX can be 35, 40, 45 and so on.
but 20 should be compulsory to be same.

stay away from castrol is you can, because its also the most expensive and the worst one...

regarding range of the oil, how do you actually determine it?
i mean to ask what is your way of determining that you need to change the oil?

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Now please tell me how to determine the oil change timings. I will be an important lesson for me.

the color of the oil is not the only determination that it needs to be changed.
so far that you mentioned it never drops below bottom line if the dipstick so its well and good.
oil which is black of course, apply it on your finger and rub it with your thumb, if you see feel any granules in it its time to change buddy.
older bikes burn oil more so it requires more oil then normal, as oil level decreases when burnt.
keep the range of 2500 km at every oil change.
check your oil at 2000 km, if okay then change at 2500, if not then of course at 2000 itself.

this is my way, it can be not the best way but sure helps.

castrol has broken many hearts...

You have a Fiero F2 right?
Maybe you would like to read these:




Now, I have a question-since the total capacity of oil is 1100ml.&refill qty.is 1000ml., is it ok to fill 1100ml.since older bikes consume more oil?
I know the total qty.is mentioned in case the engine is opened up, but what I wanna know is: Can 100 ml.overfilling cause any engine damage?

the 1100 ml quantity is of the cylinder holding the oil itself,
you can easily put 100 ml more to reach 1100 ml,
if you overfill the oil your spark plug will turn wet, with oil from the inside.
there would be problems starting the bike hence.
but you can fill till 1100 ml of oil without any issues.

if you fill a lot of oil, i.e 2 liters or so, your bike will take it in, but will clog up the inside the engine making it difficult to start and will blow out oil from everywhere.

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Thanks for the very helpful info... It's helping me become a better, more seasoned biker .... aware that I am riding an almost living organism and listen to her needs.

Although I own a Yamaha right now, I'm planning to buy a second hand bike and found this tread very interesting. Because today only I got a chance to ride a custom chambered,hand-made exhaust, and excellently rebuilt Fiero F2. Even though it was my first ride of the bike, it managed to gave me a few adrenaline rush and had not the speedo been working I'm sure I'd have managed to kiss 100kmph on that monster! [But I really felt the need for a fifth gear; would have been exhilarating! ] and the bikes been giving a good mileage of above 50kmpl...
I was offered the bike at about 18k .. but the thing is that, I'm at conflict about buying it. I've been searching for sometime for a good CBZ in its originality and without any alterations. Although, I've ridden quite a few almost all of them were offered at above 30k!
Also if I'm not wrong, I think the Fiero ain't quite a mover in the second hand market when compared to the old CBZ.
So what do you guys think?
Should I opt for the Fiero?? { I'm a commuter/tourer}
or should I go with the good old CBZ?

Fiero F2 is an extremely good bike my friend.
however you are right, its not a good mover in the second hand market, infact even when it was launched it didn't fill company's expectations by awesome sales records hence was discontinued.
i would opt for a fiero over cbz any day, for 1 reason only and that's MIDRANGE

this is the ONLY bike in the 150cc class which will make you reach 100 at 7k rpm being just a 4 geared.
the gear ratios are awesome.

this bike has other things also which doesn't make it a good seller in the 2nd hand market
like the parts (body panels) and gaskets are not easily available.
its a difficulty finding engine components and brake liners too (as disc is on the left)

being a Hero Honda cbz has more takers and it automatically is a more trustworthy machine by the masses (thanks to DHAK DHAK GO!!!)

since your basic job is commuting, so fiero again is more comfortable than the cbz.

REMEMBER any bike which revvs above 7k rpm to give out max bhp figures no matter what cc WILL not have a very good life.

look at bullet for example, it revvs till 5.5k rpm (red-line) and people ride it for 30 or so years.

so if you consider the life, it will obviously outrun cbz (since your buying 2nd hand the bike would be run already for all these years so here life also matters a lot)
1 more thing since you already are riding a punchy 2 stroke, i believe you won't be very happy by the feedback of cbz.

even i miss the 5th gear but you can't get everything in life can you??

in your case even the money part goes in fiero's pocket
the choice is yours,

but believe me, IF in case you buy this bike you will never regret.
mark my words.


c'mon fiero owners put your inputs too

Well I have been riding my Fiero since July 2001 and I can tell you one thing... this is a very reliable bike and I do not ever regret buying it. Half engine has been opened just one (last year) to change the clutch plates. (they were ok but just thought pick-up was going slightly down). I wanted to sell it off and go for a new one, but decided against it. It is still very good and trusty. I guess I might just keep this one and buy a new bike if I need one badly. I have seen many newer CBZs giving many problems to the owners ... but Fiero continues to impress.

Riding a Nov 02 Fiero & clocked 99446 on the odo. Just been to Bhandardara yesterday & it was a good trip.

I would surely agree with others that it should have that 5th cog & it would have been a much more joy riding it(Though it is still there with 4 gears). Fiero is a good bike & I would not let it go from my hands.It has served me very well for all these years & it will for the coming years. I had bought a GS150R back in '09 but due to some problems with the bike the company did a buy back & I was back to riding a Fiero.

The spares is not a problem till date & I get all the spares from the authorized dealer without any issues.

I would keep the Fiero no matter what. Thumbs UP

hey imjoshee
good luck and congratulations for almost reaching a 1 lac kms mark !!!
that's , my goal on this fiero too...
i wish it happens quickly...

congrats dude....

my F2 has been wid me for almost over 7yrs. it has done more than 75k still runs perfectly fine!!! i think its getting better wid age!!!! i travel daily for 60kms including highways. i m very lucky to have this baby wid me. back in 2003 when this model was launched, i was confused as to whether go for the old look pulsar or this one!! and now i feel that i have taken the right decision!! man it still manages to touch 100kmph with a pillion!!!!!!!!!
I have never overhauled the engine till date!!! just once i had to change the head oil seal, which i guess its normal wit all bikes. Parts r not a problem. overall the maintainance of this baby is nil...

@NANOtechnology: I have done about 4-5 100km.rides with my Mom as pillion in the last 10 days or so. I have some things to share(2 good&2 bad).
Good news is: the RHS oil seal seems to be holding up perfectly, no oil stains there.
Bad news is: Maybe due to the earlier imbalance of the forks, the front tyre is showing uneven wear on the RHS thread.That is not bald, but I can feel a coin's width of wear on the RHS 1st line. Considering that is the stock tyre, it could have happened earlier, or now. No idea.
Next, coming to engine oil, since the bike has done about 2.2K kms.since the last service, I decided to check the oil level&quality last night. So I got the dipstick out with a cutting plier, cleaned it off, then inserted it without threading it in, as mentioned in the manual.
Good news is: There is no discoloration&the oil does not even feel coarse to touch. Which means that it is good for a few more hundred kms.atleast. Also, the level is on 3/4th mark on the dipstick, so the engine seems to be in good health, not consuming oil.
But the bad news is: There is still minor leakage from the oil seal/gasket area, so I am thinking of getting the head opened&changing both these seals at the next service. This will also give an indication of the engine condition, life left etc.&if everything is good, it will serve as a decarb session!
Otherwise the bike feels great to ride, upto 60 it feels torquey, then loses out a bit(I feel like it is gasping a bit like it does before coming to reserve&slight grinding sound is also felt), then again from 70-80 it pulls well upto 100. I used to cross 100 before I got the 100/90/18" Geo Cruiser tyre.
I am not taking it above 70 mostly coz I ride with my Mom seated sideways.
Another thing I have noticed is, the bike feels sluggish after a few kms.of high speed run, I even feel that slight grinding sound (that was what made me check the oil level) but then after a short gap, it runs like new!
I don't think this could be an issue with the clutchplates, since they are hardly 5-6K kms.old. What do you think it could be due to? Engine oil also was in good health when I checked last night.
Awaiting your inputs.

@All: What is the function of the extra air pipe which comes out of the fuel tank? It is dangling off my bike now, but doesn't make any difference, I was told by a passing mech.

@chief ashman: Agree wholeheartedly with you mate. Fieros are gems, not to be sold or replaced with any other!