So prof "Lightinstien" is back,and yes i can undertand your dilemma .But i guess its always good to remain a step behind.

Btw on a serious note i plonked in the 55w bulb,the battery isnt able to take the load,the flash takes some time to work,time to change the ol ticker i guess

dude even i have to change my rear tyre, but i am thinking of goin in for the dunlop geocruiser 100/90. even with my current bald rear tyre(tvs 100/80), the bike doesnt seem to catch a good grip over those white painted line. i know its because the tyre has lost its grip, but it could also mean that the rear tyre bearings have gone and needs to be replaced.

keep it running for day and night for 2-3 days, and then see weather its working well or not, the reason is that the rr will not provide enough amps to the battery if its not on load,currently its running on a 35w setup so it requires ~3 amps for keeping the bulb on and another 3 ~ 4 amps to keep the battery healthy..

but in case of the 55w bulbs, it needs 5 amps to keep the bulb on and another 3 ~ 4 amps to keep the battery healthy again, if you keep the bulb off and ride it won't give more than 1 amp, so keep it on for days to see weather its really discharging the battery or not, either ways, come here we'll check the amps and let you know...


@ gixxer

where are you ????

I wouldn't have advised you to change the ignition system.BUT the last point warrants drastic measures!!!!

Jokes apart,it's a straight forward thing,installing TCI on fiero.You won't even need a electrician for it,you can do it yourself.

Since i don't know how the TPS/switching between maps is operated on F2,you might be able to explain it better.

The thing is,since fiero doesn't have a TPS to switch maps of the CDI ,now the bike's TCI is always on the advance curve only.

You won't have to change the stator coil to that of the RTR for installing the TCI unit.My bike's on stock coil and stock battery.

The cost of the TCI unit is 650 Rs and the ignition coil is 450 Rs.You can't use the CDI's ignition coil with TCI.

@Nanotech

Before changing the ignition system buddy,try to find out why the bike is not revving till 9,500 RPM.

The reason i am asking you to check it is,the fiero f2 has a rev limiter cutting in at 9,500 RPM and if it's not hitting it there's no use in changing the ignition system unnecessarily is it?

Tell me something ,was the bike never going beyond the 7.5k rpm range? That is ,was it the case before the conversion to 180 too?

The reason for this lack of ability to hit the rev limiter needs to be investigated before going for any performance upgrades like TCI and K&N.

Let's take things in a step by step manner.

1. What is the compression reading after the extra packing was put?

2. Was this the case with the old 26mm carb too.The lack of ability to hit 9.5k rpm?

3 Since the carb is new we can rule out problems with the slide and diaphragm.

4 Try to rev the bike in neutral and see how high the rpm goes.

5 Describe what exactly it feels like when you reach 7.5k rpm.

6 If possible, to make sure that the CDI is the culprit ,try fitting any other bike's CDI unit and see if it revs beyond 7.5k

Dude try the Michelins once and you will be sold for ever. I bet you wont regret.

last point is the most important one

okay, firstly, my bike never revved over 7.5k, i mean it does reach till 8 (redline, it just kisses it though) and then tries to hover back to 7.5k.
classic fiero and fiero f2 has the same engine APART from electricals, this bike was electronically made to revv lesser and make equal amount of power and torque at 500 rpm less, hence those power/economy mode pops in .....

initially i thought that those lights of power/economy are just namesake, but last time when the tank was removed, i was shocked to see that red box (which blinks the lights) is huge and connected to the cdi..

another thing, changing the stator is important as i will be unable to use the yellow pole (not present in your bike) so why unnecessarily keep it non working ??
if i still choose to say remove it or keep it nonworking, I'll waste another pole which can give me 30+ extra wattage at same rpm itself, you need even 5-6 watts (if you get extra) in case of an all dc bike specialy with hids as they suck a lot of battery (twice as much in my case)...

so I'll end up decreasing the no. of output wires, will get extra pole to run 140w and get rid of the revv limiter, but please confirm about the tps mapping, as i believe even rtr has it !!!

as far as answer to your questions is concerned,

1
i didn't check it but it should be arr 160 psi

2
yes, as long as i have it from i never seen it revving more than 7.5k, if you push it crazy, it kisses 8k and then comes .5k back, no abnormal behavior though, and yes it tops 120 today at that same 8k kiss

3
of cource...

4
neutral is the only gear in which the bike revs till 12k, but if you engage the clutch and put up 1st gear and revv it all the way, it again kisses 8 and then dances or hovers on 7.5k....

5
i get no abnormal feeling at 7.5k, infact previously reaching there was a herculean task, but today it reaches there everytime i touch the highway, all i can say with previous experience is that if i am doing a speed of 90 roughly 7k and then wack the throttle, it does move up ahead very fast (a boon while overtaking) but suddenly feels as if something is stopping of slowing down the motorcycle.
at 90+ if feels like how it feels at 70, i can bet that it can do better speed (maybe slightly) if it has an ability to cross that mark....

6
cdi is not the culprit, i know that surely because it revs till 12k in neutral...

1 more thing, isn't that pulse generator (the black thing on top of the stator in the pic) a part of the stator coil itself ???
how can we buy it separately ??

@Nanotech

Do one thing buddy,try and take a pic of the red box under the tank,because i think that's the CDI and from it a cable will go to the ignition coil.

The RTR has TPS and that's why it will always be in the advance curve on my bike, as fiero doesn't have TPS.

If the bike revs in neutral,then CDI is fine and trust me buddy the rev limiter cuts in at 9.5k rpm.

See if "India nippon electrical co" or what is written on the big red box under the tank,it should clear up things.

I got your point about the pole of the stator coil going waste in case of the TCI conversion ,if your present stator coil is used and i will find out the price of the RTR stator coil.

All fiero series bikes have Digital CDI and the rev limiter cuts in about 9.5k only.Not before that.The CDI units differ between fiero and F2/FX but they all have rev limiters and RTR's don't.

Yes the pulse generator comes with the coil kit ,but you can get them separately at any auto electrician's place.Since there's some difference between the fiero and F2 coil .It might be an good idea i think ,if you get the conversion done by an auto electrician.

what is TPS ??
throttle positioning sensor ???
if yes that that red box is exactly that, because it has a wire which is similar to that of the butterfly valve's wire, the more you move the throttle, the more it moves, i can see a small piston kinda thing popping outwards with the throttle play...

and secondly i wish to do this all by myself as i will wind the coil on my own to make it single phase, rest all is plug and play i guess and its good that the pulse generator comes with the stator.
if in case it works, then even i will get those 2 curves right ??

yippeee....

Yes that red box is the CDI then.So the TPS is there in f2.The RTR's TPS is different i think it gets the sensor from the carb's butterfly and the curves are switched by an micro switch.

@NANOtech

Correction,i think that the RTR also has similar TPS as yours.

exactly, so what do i need to do ??
besides, what amp of battery are you running ??
as your spark plug is lighted up by the battery itself (similar to cars) does it cause any starting issues ???

and will i be able to plug the TPS the way its currently connected ??
anything more that i need to know ??

The battery is stock kick start model 2.5 amp one. The RTR including the FI one too will start without a battery,it's been tested on RTR/FI thread and i've seen it happen with my friend's apache too.So no issues with regard to starting and i've never faced any till now and nor has my friend.Barring when his apache's plug adapter had water seep into it.
I will let you know about the stator price.

Congrats! Satish is not very happy with this tyre on is RTR. Hope it performs well on the Fiero though. Using it as TT is a good idea.

+1 to that! The M45 on my bike grips like a leech.
I took some time to get used to the Sirac Street 3.0" at the rear, since the sidewall height was very different compared to my older GeoCruiser 100/90/18". Now it rocks.
I didn't wanna put the same M45 at the rear, since it would wear out very soon, considering it is soft compound. I'm expecting atleast 3-4 years or 20K kms. life from these tyres.

@tintin708: Try going back to 3.00" for the rear-you will be surprised at how agile the bike suddenly becomes!
And for the front, change the tyre based on years rather than kms.It may look as though it still has life left, but it doesn't-the rubber becomes hard&loses its permeability, so that gives a stiffer ride quality. Once you put in a new front tyre, you will feel like your bike is new again!

I'm gonna ride my Fiero F2 today for about 50kms. Its been long since I rode it.

Got done the Service for my Fiero Yesterday & Changed/ Installed below things,

Changed the engine oil to Gulf pride 4t plus
Fork truing, fork oil changed
Fork Oil Seals
Front wheel Bearings
Speedo Cable
Crash Guard
14t GB sprocket from Yamaha Crux
Gear lever rubber
Oil Filter

& General Servicing

It left me with 1.5k Hole in my pocket, finally saw cone set was kaput now need to change it as well, I have postponed the tyre changes to my next service since the already one feels ok as of now.

My Initial review from 14t sprocket is good, now the power delivery is smooth & I am yet to test it on highways/ highspeed so I will refrain myself from posting on that behalf.

Trying to get HH CBZ Classic Disc set up from an old bike which my mech has, still under consideration lets see what price they expect.