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**gixxer_junkie_m** · 12-20-2010, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post

Got done the Service for my Fiero Yesterday & Changed/ Installed below things,

Changed the engine oil to Gulf pride 4t plus
Fork truing, fork oil changed
Fork Oil Seals
Front wheel Bearings
Speedo Cable
Crash Guard
14t GB sprocket from Yamaha Crux
Gear lever rubber
Oil Filter

& General Servicing

It left me with 1.5k Hole in my pocket, finally saw cone set was kaput now need to change it as well, I have postponed the tyre changes to my next service since the already one feels ok as of now.

My Initial review from 14t sprocket is good, now the power delivery is smooth & I am yet to test it on highways/ highspeed so I will refrain myself from posting on that behalf.

Trying to get HH CBZ Classic Disc set up from an old bike which my mech has, still under consideration lets see what price they expect.

That seems like a bit costly for the work done/parts installed.What's the breakdown of the cost ?and labor?
What happened to the shogun sprocket?

**rameshmadhavan** · 12-20-2010, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

That seems like a bit costly for the work done/parts installed.What's the breakdown of the cost ?and labor?
What happened to the shogun sprocket?

Guys

Police Patrol Fierro's are auctioned in Chennai and one of my known person has taken few, they are quoting 8k for each....is it a good deal

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 12-20-2010, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by rameshmadhavan View Post

Guys

Police Patrol Fierro's are auctioned in Chennai and one of my known person has taken few, they are quoting 8k for each....is it a good deal

A fiero is a rugged and reliable bike and it will last a long time.If it's rebuilt properly then it can keep up with any 160 cc bike and beat some too.

Coming to the patrol bike,i am not sure what state they might be in ,as most of the time they are made to lug in gears and not ridden properly.Take a local mech along and let him check the bikes.Maybe then you will have some idea about what needs to be done and whether it's worth it.

The price quoted,8k is a steal,because fieros are selling for 25k plus here in bangalore.Once again as they are patrol bikes,let a mech decide.

**rameshmadhavan** · 12-20-2010, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

A fiero is a rugged and reliable bike and it will last a long time.If it's rebuilt properly then it can keep up with any 160 cc bike and beat some too.

Coming to the patrol bike,i am not sure what state they might be in ,as most of the time they are made to lug in gears and not ridden properly.Take a local mech along and let him check the bikes.Maybe then you will have some idea about what needs to be done and whether it's worth it.

The price quoted,8k is a steal,because fieros are selling for 25k plus here in bangalore.Once again as they are patrol bikes,let a mech decide.

oh thanks a lot, let me try a hand on it....there is a black suzuki fierro, i took a mech and he also says its worth to take it. he says only timing chain gone otherwise the bike is in good shape

**abhilashabhi12** · 12-20-2010, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

That seems like a bit costly for the work done/parts installed.What's the breakdown of the cost ?and labor?
What happened to the shogun sprocket?

Lolz that Shogun sprocket was not exactly shogun's it was TVS XL super's, i think its a mistake from the supplier they have put wrong sticker.

Break down is as below,

General Service - 250
Fork Overhauling - 180 - Truing & labor for the mech
Engine oil - 210
Crash Guard - 360
front Wheel Bearings - 170
Spark Plug - 77 ( I missed this in my earlier post)
Oil filter - 35
Fork Oil Seals - 80 or odd
14t Front Sprocket - 110rs
Speedo Cable - 80 or odd

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 12-20-2010, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by rameshmadhavan View Post

oh thanks a lot, let me try a hand on it....there is a black suzuki fierro, i took a mech and he also says its worth to take it. he says only timing chain gone otherwise the bike is in good shape

Then buy it

and let us know when you've done it.

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 12-20-2010, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post

Lolz that Shogun sprocket was not exactly shogun's it was TVS XL super's, i think its a mistake from the supplier they have put wrong sticker.

Break down is as below,

General Service - 250
Fork Overhauling - 180 - Truing & labor for the mech
Engine oil - 210
Crash Guard - 360
front Wheel Bearings - 170
Spark Plug - 77 ( I missed this in my earlier post)
Oil filter - 35
Fork Oil Seals - 80 or odd
14t Front Sprocket - 110rs
Speedo Cable - 80 or odd

He seems to be a costly mech,because the labor charges are same as charged at showrooms i think.

My engine rebuild at the auth service center was 300 Rs including the gaskets.I wonder what he might charge for the same,which is nothing more than a 2 to 3 hour job at most.Most local mechs ask for the bike to be kept with them for 2 days for a engine re-build.So a right knowledgeable mech is needed most of the time to keep the bike in good shape.

**abhilashabhi12** · 12-20-2010, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

He seems to be a costly mech,because the labor charges are same as charged at showrooms i think.

My engine rebuild at the auth service center was 300 Rs including the gaskets.I wonder what he might charge for the same,which is nothing more than a 2 to 3 hour job at most.Most local mechs ask for the bike to be kept with them for 2 days for a engine re-build.So a right knowledgeable mech is needed most of the time to keep the bike in good shape.

Geez, actually his General service is 200rs but this time he had to take Front forks to Lathe, for truing that's why 50rs extra.

got done all the work near Jakkur, so it was pretty far he had to take the forks for Truing

I l meet U with the bike with in this week when i am free, you can have a look at it.

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 12-20-2010, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post

Geez, actually his General service is 200rs but this time he had to take Front forks to Lathe, for truing that's why 50rs extra.

got done all the work near Jakkur, so it was pretty far he had to take the forks for Truing

I l meet U with the bike with in this week when i am free, you can have a look at it.

Yeah when i rode your bike,i thought it didn't even need a oil change leave alone so many things. What made you to ask him check the forks?

From my experience i've learnt that its a good idea not to complain too much with mechs about minor things unless it's really bad.The mech i trust for most things is a kinda guy who never says something's wrong or never insists on changing things and he's good at diagnosing things too.I keep in touch with a Authorized service center ,a mech who's good at modifications and another mech who i trust .

**abhilashabhi12** · 12-20-2010, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

Yeah when i rode your bike,i thought it didn't even need a oil change leave alone so many things. What made you to ask him check the forks?

From my experience i've learnt that its a good idea not to complain too much with mechs about minor things unless it's really bad.The mech i trust for most things is a kinda guy who never says something's wrong or never insists on changing things and he's good at diagnosing things too.I keep in touch with a Authorized service center ,a mech who's good at modifications and another mech who i trust .

Oil was leaking from the forks, & you remember I showed you the doom which was broken at the side & I told you bike fell, Fork was bent & oil was leaking which is why I decided to open it up & get it rectified, Infact I Insisted on changing the Brake shoes but he said don't waste the money sir, this has just become hard, I will rub them & put it & you can use it for another 500 or 1000kms.

Even this mech is not that kinda guy, my cousin lives in Yelahanka & get done things from this guy & this guy himself owns a suzuki fiero 2001 model & he knows in & out of this bike that's why I preferred him for this service.

But now I should look for someone near by, going till Yelahanka for service is very difficult you see.

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 12-20-2010, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post

Oil was leaking from the forks, & you remember I showed you the doom which was broken at the side & I told you bike fell, Fork was bent & oil was leaking which is why I decided to open it up & get it rectified, Infact I Insisted on changing the Brake shoes but he said don't waste the money sir, this has just become hard, I will rub them & put it & you can use it for another 500 or 1000kms.

Even this mech is not that kinda guy, my cousin lives in Yelahanka & get done things from this guy & this guy himself owns a suzuki fiero 2001 model & he knows in & out of this bike that's why I preferred him for this service.

But now I should look for someone near by, going till Yelahanka for service is very difficult you see.

Okay got it,then he seems alright ,it's better to get the bike serviced from the mech who knows its history.Since servicing is done once in a while ,let him handle it.

**velociraptor13** · 12-20-2010, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by rameshmadhavan View Post

oh thanks a lot, let me try a hand on it....there is a black suzuki fierro, i took a mech and he also says its worth to take it. he says only timing chain gone otherwise the bike is in good shape

go for it man,dont think twice.

**NANOtechnology** · 12-21-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

The battery is stock kick start model 2.5 amp one. The RTR including the FI one too will start without a battery,it's been tested on RTR/FI thread and i've seen it happen with my friend's apache too.So no issues with regard to starting and i've never faced any till now and nor has my friend.Barring when his apache's plug adapter had water seep into it.
I will let you know about the stator price.

how is that possible ????
it shouldn't start without the battery as the circuit will remain open...
it needs a battery 100% to close the circuit....
it doesn't have a yellow pole to light the spark plug, and the coil never starts the bike at all....
so its upto the battery to do so.

and what's the cost, did you find out ???

**abhilashabhi12** · 12-22-2010, 01:38 PM

Guys

As earlier said my cone set has gone kaput & I need to change them.

Now I need to know how much is cost of Cone set & what will be the labour charges to change it.

I checked with my local mech & he says the original cone set will cost close to 400rs & labour charge for him will be 300rs.

Also I will need Brake shoe replacement for both front & rear, any idea how much will the brake shoe cost ?

PS - In that 300rs he has agreed to change the brake shoes as well as lubricate the Clutch & Front brake cables.

**Sarvajit** · 12-22-2010, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post

Guys

As earlier said my cone set has gone kaput & I need to change them.

Now I need to know how much is cost of Cone set & what will be the labour charges to change it.

I checked with my local mech & he says the original cone set will cost close to 400rs & labour charge for him will be 300rs.

Also I will need Brake shoe replacement for both front & rear, any idea how much will the brake shoe cost ?

PS - In that 300rs he has agreed to change the brake shoes as well as lubricate the Clutch & Front brake cables.

Make him grease the coneset before fitting it in, and also adjust the fork nut perfectly. You will definitely feel a great difference in the damping.
If you want to get the entire fork assembly checked/fork oil refilled, you can buy the spares from TVS&take the bike to a fork repair mechanic. That's what I did-they charge very less&do a great job as that is their specialization.
Brake shoes are about Rs.200 for the rear, no idea about front-should be similarly priced.
I think Rs.300 is a steep price, considering lubricating the cables hardly takes a minute or two.
Replacing brake pads is also a 5-10 min.job.
If he doesn't reduce the price, complain of loose chain noise, then ask him to remove chain covers, clean, adjust&lubricate chain also!
It will be like a minor service if you can get him to check all nuts/bolts. Then its worth giving Rs.300!

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