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Gixxer bro,
I took the compression test ride this morning ... like you said 4th cog ... reached 40 kmph then opened the throttle full. The bike did respond and reached 50 in about 4-5 seconds. The shoot forward situation did not happen as the sudden surge of power was not there, but the bike was not slow and sluggish either. I wanted to do the test again but the road was crowded with traffic. I will do the test again properly this time and let you know.

For now here is the old Champion plug posted after revs.

@ vishal

yes buddy, we can do anything needed, not only converting it to full DC, but i can make it run 3 HID's too without battery issues...

@ velociraptor

rakesh buddy, i completely understand what your going through.
even if i am offered an RD350 in a rotten condition and a good price today, i would buy it without even having second thoughts.
the only thing that's refraining me to buy is being still a student i don't have a source of income and money to spend on passions..
i realize how much you needed something and today you have a choice of having it too.

as far as i know, Vishal would never give you a wrong judgment, he himself is tired getting his bike done right again and again.

see, if we talk about how feasible it is to have it !
your getting 40k for your current machine.
if you get this rust bucket in 20k, you still have 20k to spend on it, so this leaves a good margin to work on, all you'll get is the replacement to your current unicorn, go for this bike if you want to MOD it, put up a bigger block and so on...

having a 220 today, honestly you won't RIDE this machine much even if you buy, parts will get expensive with time, they already are more expensive than current gen machines.

choice is yours, we will always be here to help you even if you buy, with time and money we can make this bike much more better than the stock too,
if you are ready to face all this, go for it

what gets tiring is not that we have to work on the bike to make it right, the tiring part is that we have to keep working on something or the other almost every weekend, maybe you can do it today, maybe you can do it for next 6 months too, but if you are ready to keep it and yourself happy, can go for it.
its your call in the end.

@ gixxer

i went to the TVS SVC today, and like always it has been a disaster of an experience.
i reached there at 1 PM, the lunch time had started, i didn't go to the supervisor, i just went to the mech and asked him that i want my carb tuned with that CO machine, guy was like you'll have to wait until 2 for lunchtime to get over.

i did that, after 2 that mech was no where to be found and i asked another mech to get it done, he went to the supervisor told him, then they both were discussing something and the mech came back to me, asked me what's the issue and so and so.
i just told him that I've installed a new carb, i just want it to be tuned with the machine, that's it.

this guy was like, no no compression test is done using a machine, the carb is tuned by a screw
i was like, whatever it is, there's a CO machine which is used to get the A/F mixture perfect and so and so, he went it again in a confused state, asked his supervisor, supervisor comes to me and asks, what's the problem, are you getting less mileage or so and so, i was getting mad, i asked weather they have that machine or not, then he was like listening to somebody else and doing his job.

the mech later brought a multimeter kinda thing and said this is the machine which is used and so and so, its a computer and this and that
he's teaching me a thing or 2 about computers !!

he was like this will take 3-4 hours to do and so and so, i was like WTF.
you take 3-4 hours to turn a screw ?

then since my volume increased the mechs started gathering and see what's going on.
he was like, today we have 21 bikes for service, if you come tomorrow, I'll do it and bla bla...

i had a good day since morning, so i didn't want to ruin it, i thought of going to the store manager and complaining as i did 2 times before, but i was like cut it out, and i just left...

can we take some action against these people ?
i would love to get that entire SVC closed once and for all, these guys don't have carbs, don't have headlamp brackets, don't have oil drain plate, don't have anything that i need everytime i go there...

and these are the same guys which leaked my block and applied silicon gel instead of 3 bond as my head sealant !!
all the mechs and the supervisor keeps changing everytime i go there.

expecting them to tune my carb right is very doubtful..

do i have alternatives ??

Since the master has given a thumbs down,i mite as well drop the idea of buying the bike.
@nano-Buddy i can definitely understand your thoughts,believe i have lost a lot of opportunities in my life be it bikes or well.its really a pain but not the pain that makes you frustrated but the pain that makes you bring a smile at the end of the day when you complete the restoration and people appreciate you for that.Restoring an rd(been there done that) is a herculian task that requires expertise,time and a healthy bank balance,which i dont have right now(spent it on the new bike and car).
I do have an offer of a suzuki fiero but its lying in coimbatore which belongs to my cousin brother,which has done only 25000 kmI once started the bike after one year and the bike started at the very first kick.Since its away from coastal area i can vouch on minimal corrosion.Will try to strike a deal once i go there next year.
i will be converting the unicorn to full D.C as for now.

On the other hand which svc did you visit,innovative at bhandup.Shoot off a letter to TVS.They will surely respond in no time,never let such matters go unnoticed.Recently TVS shut down one of its svc in malad because of repeated complaints.Paisa pheko tamasha dekho.

Till then The hunt for the fiero continues.............................

@Nanotech

That's how the authorized service centers work everywhere Yeah and that's the reason we rely on local mechs. No problem get it done at some other place,or you can richen the A/F ratio yourself till the plug turns tan and dark tan in your case.

Look buddy if you had followed my instructions on the 180 conversion you wouldn't have had half the problems you've had.

So richen the A/F ratio before something else happens to give these conversions a bad name.

Ok bro,the pictures are worth a thousand words. The plug is worn out,especially the ground electrode.So it was a good idea to change the plug and it shows that the engine is ok.The color of the plug is saying it's running rich ,so things are fine.

Now,since you are facing the same issue with a new plug ,get the carb's jets cleaned and the other things i mentioned about the carb checked.

You do the acceleration check once again or you can do the steep gradient climb test too.Both will show the engine's health to an extent.

[QUOTE=gixxer_junkie_m;538360]Ok bro,the pictures are worth a thousand words. The plug is worn out,especially the ground electrode.So it was a good idea to change the plug and it shows that the engine is ok.The color of the plug is saying it's running rich ,so things are fine.

Now,since you are facing the same issue with a new plug ,get the carb's jets cleaned and the other things i mentioned about the carb checked.

You do the acceleration check once again or you can do the steep gradient climb test too.Both will show the engine's health to an extent.[
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Gixxer bro, I will take it easy from now on... and not be too hyped up about my bike. I know it's doing fine. Could not do the speed compression test today, but I went for the climb. The approach is narrow and steep with rough patches which takes caution to tackle and speeding is out of the question. Well that makes you power up your machine more and approach, tackle the bends and exit the climb at full throttle. Good test... & the bike has done it well today.

I think a total carb clean-out is the next step.

yes, its the same goddamn svc.
I've already become a menace there, i hate to see them doing nothing and charging soo much.
I've spent an entire day there once, I've seen them just tightening the chain and washing the bike and charging 350 bucks for it...

i might go there again to get the carb tuned (possibly) and see the response (i don't need to actually)

and i would write an email to the TVS guys also, but i highly doubt that they'll even care..
the SVC at thane (Ashvini TVS) is even worse.
i went there to buy a head and head cover of rtr 180, and he was selling me a rtr 160's FI's head with a slot for an injector too, i almost bought it and just before paying i asked him what's that round slot for ??
does it have a cover or something as it will leak oil, it was then he realized that the head belonged to rtr 160, not 180.

lucky me, i didn't buy it, however a new thought had come in my mind ever since, that was to convert the Fiero to FI, but i never shared it as i don't have the bank balance and efforts left too to do that.
anyways, sorry for OT...

gixxer buddy, i followed your instruction from day 1, i got my TIMING RIGHT as you said, the issue was the opinion of the bore guy who wanted me to keep stuff as it is, and not modify my head...

i even followed your instruction of BS29, also richening the carb, even getting rid of the foam of the air filter, also the FZ's handlebar,
i don't know how should i make you realize that even a turn more towards the right of the fuel screw SHUTS MY ENGINE OFF, i don't know how can i convince you that i did whatever you said, if you remember i even asked YOU weather should i go in with the 180 stuff or not..

I'll post the pick of the plug soon during daytime (probably in the afternoon) and tell me how much should i turn the screw to the right from my present configuration.

PS: bike is performing butter smooth and knocking is almost 10% of what it was before, its not an issue though, but still i wish to settle it down once and for all.

Buddy i hope i am reading it right here.I hope the picture will clear up things for you.Now try it again and this time turn the screw left to richen it.That is anti clock wise.

not a simple plug and play mode,you got to figure out where and how to hook up all the sensors,but its a good project provided u have the time and money.

oops
i did it the other way round everytime !!!

A honest mistake buddy and all this while i was of the thought that ,you are hell bent on running it lean !! Whenever you put the pic of the spark plug here .I'd think that you aren't listening to us. and i was wondering what else it would lead to!!!!

It's a small miracle, that despite having such high compression and running at such a lean state the bore survived!!!!

That too,how long has it done till now? god knows how it stood up to the stunting and full throttle runs. No wonder it lead to pre-ignition and was knocking like crazy.

Anyway all's well that ends well,now make sure that the plug turns dark brown,not even tan,make sure it turns dark chocolate brown.


Another thing ,if you see my posts,i had told you to put the foam back on the filter and not to take it off.

Yeah do things one at a time and yes strip the carb completely and do the checks i told you about.This is a carb issue and it will be sorted out.Don't worry ,it looks like its not a CDI or Ignition coil problem or anything to do with electrical parts.

Having seen the state of the plug ,i think it won't be such a bad idea to try leaning out the A/F ratio a bit and see how it revs.

i wud be surprised if the cyl wall doesnt have pitting marks.

Yeah it's a possibility as he was hearing loud tock tock kind of noise when it was in pre-igniting stage.But since it's not burning oil,it looks to be ok.Then again they had dis-assembled the engine after that ,so i think they would have noticed it then.

yes, after dis assemble, there was no sigh of damage.
however i did it FINALLY.

i turned the screw to the left almost 8 to 10 turns, which was popping it outwards, strangely bike never turned off and the screw kept on popping out, so i have now turned it 10 rotations to the richer side.
maybe 1 or 2 more, didn't ride it much, hardly 3 mins,
it doesn't feel any different, but doesn't feel like before too, knocking at the sudden throttle movement is still there.. will ride it tomorrow for an hour or so and post the pic !

anything else ??