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  • @ rakesh

    see this pic carefully




    this guy has DEFINITELY changed his block and piston...
    you'll have to strip down the bike completely and paint all the rusted parts..

    why don't you go for F2's swingarm ??
    Giving a lot to a fiero.
    Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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    • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
      @ gixxer.


      besides, the yellow coil in the stator (only in F2 and FX) is responsible for the spark plug to ignite in these bike's case.
      your bike's coil (all classic fiero's) has no yellow pole, so everything is controlled by the cdi directly.

      if you compare classic fiero's CDI and F2's CDI you'll realize the classic one is as bigger that a standard cellphone but my bike's CDI is 1/4 th of its size.
      is it a TCI ??

      btw, as far as the electricals are concerned, its not always true that the coil and stuff inside it like the pulse generator and yellow pole remain healthy.
      its not true either that if in case these stuff are gone bad, the bike WON'T start.

      I've never heard it in a fiero but in case of pulsars, after every 30k, you need to change your pulse generator, it looses its resistance.

      if you see the fiero's stator, honestly speaking its the wost winded stator I've seen in any bike until now.
      splendor has a single pole stator, its much better winded, pulsars are masters of stator, they have machine winded stators.
      HH, Bajaj, Honda, etc all have amazing stators but the worst stator I've ever seen comes from TVS bikes...

      in case of CDI, i agree it never turns faulty just like that, i just wanted chief to check weather the pulse generator has lost its resistance or not.
      as there's nothing left in his bike apart from the coil (which has no concern in this) pulse generator and the CDI..

      the thing is that these stuff remain dipped completely in oil, so are coated with a varnish, with time this varnish does dissolve in the ever changing oil and hence gets eroded, heat also effects.
      so its likely to under-perform with time.

      Buddy why do you think ,i've specified Ignition coil and CDI in my posts?
      Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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      • Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
        anyone to answer this?
        If you want to feel better,you can always get victor GLX swing arm which is similar in length to that of the fiero and you won't face any chain sprocket loosening issue as well.It costs something like 400 Rs .So it will be cheaper than a re-paint.Bprags has it on his bike,it's a box section one and will improve the looks of the bike as well.

        Regarding the carb and RR looks,get it cleaned up and then you will be sure of things.
        Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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        • @Chief ashman

          Good luck bro,you are gonna need it. I wouldn't advise you to go for TCI conversion either as i am not sure whether your mech can manage it.

          Get the things done and we will see,how things turn out.I am 100% sure it's nothing to do with CDI or Ignition coil ,or anything electrical.

          I still repeat , in the case of CDI and Ignition coil there's no in between thing.They either work or they don't.
          Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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          • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
            If you want to feel better,you can always get victor GLX swing arm which is similar in length to that of the fiero and you won't face any chain sprocket loosening issue as well.It costs something like 400 Rs .So it will be cheaper than a re-paint.Bprags has it on his bike,it's a box section one and will improve the looks of the bike as well.
            That won't be needed-its a simple 15-20 Rs.job-touch-up with paint&replace screws if necessary.
            Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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            • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
              That won't be needed-its a simple 15-20 Rs.job-touch-up with paint&replace screws if necessary.
              Yeah my bike's swing arm has smattering of rust too where the acid from battery has fallen and i've not even gotten it painted yet.It's no big deal.
              Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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              • vishal a.k.a imjoshee will be coming over to my place to check the bike,lets see what he has to say?
                @sarvajit-i always wanted to buy a suzuki fiero since its launch,moreover i find the unicorn little boring,hence,moreover i need a bike for the leh trip next year
                @nano-i want to keep the bike bone stock,AFAIK he hasn't changed the block pistion-its still running on the stock suzuki bore.
                Socha Toh Locha.

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                • Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
                  I,initially planned to purchase a fiero,caught hold of one in my society but in a very sorry state







                  Should i go for it?It looks like a rust bucket to me.
                  what about the rust adjacent to the engine mount and the rear brakelight switch area?
                  Socha Toh Locha.

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                  • Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
                    what about the rust adjacent to the engine mount and the rear brakelight switch area?
                    Just get the area sandpapered and painted after a coat of primer.That should do for now.
                    Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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                    • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
                      @Chief ashman

                      Good luck bro,you are gonna need it. I wouldn't advise you to go for TCI conversion either as i am not sure whether your mech can manage it.

                      Get the things done and we will see,how things turn out.I am 100% sure it's nothing to do with CDI or Ignition coil ,or anything electrical.

                      I still repeat , in the case of CDI and Ignition coil there's no in between thing.They either work or they don't.
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                      So Gixxer bro, what do you advise me to do now, where should I start. The bike otherwise feels ok to ride. I asked the mech about the ticking sound and he says all bikes have it. I asked about the scraping sound and he says all bikes have it and demoed it on the Uni by rotating the back wheel... and yes the sprockets were making sound. He says the ticking sound is from the front sprocket as I push or pull the bike in a quiet location it is audible. He cant hear it properly because his place is noisy.
                      Is it something to do with the engine? coz I hear it coming from the engine area. Could something be wrong with the new piston setup?

                      So how should I go about now?

                      I want to get the reliability and feel of a Fiero back in my Fiero.

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                      • Originally posted by chief ashman View Post
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                        So Gixxer bro, what do you advise me to do now, where should I start. The bike otherwise feels ok to ride. I asked the mech about the ticking sound and he says all bikes have it. I asked about the scraping sound and he says all bikes have it and demoed it on the Uni by rotating the back wheel... and yes the sprockets were making sound. He says the ticking sound is from the front sprocket as I push or pull the bike in a quiet location it is audible. He cant hear it properly because his place is noisy.
                        Is it something to do with the engine? coz I hear it coming from the engine area. Could something be wrong with the new piston setup?

                        So how should I go about now?

                        I want to get the reliability and feel of a Fiero back in my Fiero.
                        Firstly,get the carb tuned properly and try playing with the A/F ratio and see if the engine note doesn't oscillate when revved in neutral.

                        Put the stock plug NGK R CR7E before doing these things.

                        Strip the carb completely.

                        Check the carb Slide and diaphragm.

                        Check the smaller Diaphragm.

                        Check the Jet needle to see if its bent or not.See what position the clip is in.Lower the clip if it is at a higher slot.

                        Clean up all the jets.

                        Check the intake manifold for leaks.

                        Then check the connectors.

                        If the problem is not solved,then find a auto electrician with the whole checking set up.That is they will have a good machine to check the stator coil,pulse generator,RR,CDI and Ignition coil.

                        All the above mentioned electrical parts will be checked individually .

                        My advise is,try out everything with the carb first before thinking of replacing any electrical parts.
                        Last edited by gixxer_junkie_m; 12-02-2010, 07:23 PM.
                        Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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                        • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
                          Firstly,get the carb tuned properly and try playing with the A/F ratio and see if the engine note doesn't oscillate when revved in neutral.

                          Put the stock plug NGK R CR7E before doing these things.

                          Strip the carb completely.

                          Check the carb Slide and diaphragm.

                          Check the smaller Diaphragm.

                          Check the Jet needle to see if its bent or not.See what position the clip is in.Lower the clip if it is at a higher slot.

                          Clean up all the jets.

                          Check the intake manifold for leaks.

                          Then check the connectors.

                          If the problem is not solved,then find a auto electrician with the whole checking set up.That is they will have a good machine to check the stator coil,pulse generator,RR,CDI and Ignition coil.

                          All the above mentioned electrical parts will be checked individually .

                          My advise is,try out everything with the carb first before thinking of replacing any electrical parts.
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                          Gixxer bro, thanks for the tips, will do that with a better mech... I'm sure the problem is not that complicated. It's just us... that feel our bikes should be problem free all the time. I guesss no one is invincible ... specially at old age. The problem is with guess works most of the time. The mech did not even touch the jets. he just cleaned the interiors. I think jets are important here.
                          What do you say about the difference in sparking? Good constant sparking is important for the bike right?

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                          • Originally posted by chief ashman View Post
                            =================================================

                            Gixxer bro, thanks for the tips, will do that with a better mech... I'm sure the problem is not that complicated. It's just us... that feel our bikes should be problem free all the time. I guesss no one is invincible ... specially at old age. The problem is with guess works most of the time. The mech did not even touch the jets. he just cleaned the interiors. I think jets are important here.
                            What do you say about the difference in sparking? Good constant sparking is important for the bike right?
                            Don't worry about the sparking,that's how our coil fires and its normal for a CDI .That's the main reason why TCI is taking CDI's place.

                            If you want to ,try changing the cable from the ignition coil to the spark plug adapter,that is a cheaper alternative to see if things improve.But the thing is you have to revv the bike hard in neutral and take the plug out. Then put it's picture here,so that we can advise you better.

                            Then if possible get a compression test done.Or else ,take the bike to a long straight ,then put the bike in 4th gear at say,40 kmph and then suddenly open up the throttle wide(full).See how the bike responds and let us know whether it responds immediately and shoots forward .Or does it keep going at the same speed and then slowly gathers speed.
                            Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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                            • Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
                              vishal a.k.a imjoshee will be coming over to my place to check the bike,lets see what he has to say?
                              I paid a visit to Velociraptor's place to check out the Fiero. From top if you, the bike clean except for scratches here & there, but that can be taken care of.

                              What i observed is, its a piece of rust. Almost all the parts are rusted, to mention a few:
                              • Chasis near swing arm
                              • Silencer
                              • Engine bolts
                              • Wheel spokes
                              • Chain cover & etc etc etc.

                              Here is my suggestion, you will have to replace all these necessary parts and get the chasis repainted(even if you apply primer & all that stuff), but that will not increase the life of the metal as it has rusted badly. You would be spending more on the restoration than you would buy the bike for.

                              I understand your sentiments of buying a Fiero & the sheer pleasure of the hearing the exhaust note, which I LOVE very much, but again there are some things which you need to let go of.

                              You were saying that you want to convert your Unicorn to Full DC. We can do that right NANOtech, we now have expertise in doing these things

                              My final verdict, would be to stay away from that bike, rest its your call.


                              Vishal

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                              • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
                                I paid a visit to Velociraptor's place to check out the Fiero. From top if you, the bike clean except for scratches here & there, but that can be taken care of.

                                What i observed is, its a piece of rust. Almost all the parts are rusted, to mention a few:
                                • Chasis near swing arm
                                • Silencer
                                • Engine bolts
                                • Wheel spokes
                                • Chain cover & etc etc etc.
                                Here is my suggestion, you will have to replace all these necessary parts and get the chasis repainted(even if you apply primer & all that stuff), but that will not increase the life of the metal as it has rusted badly. You would be spending more on the restoration than you would buy the bike for.

                                I understand your sentiments of buying a Fiero & the sheer pleasure of the hearing the exhaust note, which I LOVE very much, but again there are some things which you need to let go of.

                                You were saying that you want to convert your Unicorn to Full DC. We can do that right NANOtech, we now have expertise in doing these things

                                My final verdict, would be to stay away from that bike, rest its your call.


                                Vishal
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                                @Velociraptor,

                                The master has inspected & verified ... we should all trust his judgement.

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