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  • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
    There's no such thing as a aging bike.Your 100,000 km old bike will be same as a brand new, virgin RTR.Provided it's restored properly.What is there in a bike which makes it old? If you replace the bore-kit and head,what remains is the chassis and the gear box.They don't wear as quickly as a engine.So your 20k Rs worth fiero will be same as a brand new 80k RS bike.
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    Well in that case, I feel I need to get the clutch plates changed. I did not do that when the engine was bored as the mech said they were still in good condition. I may need to do that sometime soon ... or wait till the service date when the carb will be cleaned out too.

    Also can the loss of compression be related to seal leakage, like valves etc?

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    • Originally posted by chief ashman View Post
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      Well in that case, I feel I need to get the clutch plates changed. I did not do that when the engine was bored as the mech said they were still in good condition. I may need to do that sometime soon ... or wait till the service date when the carb will be cleaned out too.

      Also can the loss of compression be related to seal leakage, like valves etc?
      Yes ,compression,carb tune,clutch plates all act on how well the bike responds.
      If valve seals start leaking oil the carbon gets collected on the valve seats and compression will be lost.But your bike isn't drinking oil.
      Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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      • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
        Yes ,compression,carb tune,clutch plates all act on how well the bike responds.
        If valve seals start leaking oil the carbon gets collected on the valve seats and compression will be lost.But your bike isn't drinking oil.
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        Well now that I have the bigger picture, my agenda for the next servicing visit is set. Ge the compression test done, Get the clutch plates changed, The oil filter will be changed, Carb and Jets cleaned & adjusted ... along with the regular service stuff.

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        • Originally posted by chief ashman View Post
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          Well now that I have the bigger picture, my agenda for the next servicing visit is set. Ge the compression test done, Get the clutch plates changed, The oil filter will be changed, Carb and Jets cleaned & adjusted ... along with the regular service stuff.
          Don't go around changing clutch plates,unless they are worn out.Get the carb checked and tuned properly.
          Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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          • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
            Hey Gixxer,

            One query here. You asked Chief to take a compression test of the engine & informed him a way to do it. Thats like on the 4th gear drop the speed to 40kmph & whack the throttle open. The bike should shoot like a bullet if everything is perfect, right.

            On the other hand I tried doing this, but the bike did not shoot but gradually it picked up pace. The plug is also tan brown & I am using a NGK CR7e GP series. Mileage I get is around 45kmpl. I also tried doing that on a P220 but that also did not shoot. What could be the reason?

            Arent you not choking the carb, by giving more than the required fuel when you whack the throttle open. For eg. When you are drinking water from a glass or a bottle & someone just comes up to you & gives the glass a push above(usually what we do to our friends) and the see the excess water coming out from their mouth & they coughing badly & after that he will kill you for doing that.

            Kindly shed some light on this.


            Vishal
            try this on an rx and you shall know it.
            Socha Toh Locha.

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            • Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
              try this on an rx and you shall know it.
              RX 100 wakes up at part throttle position..or above 4K RPM.KB 100 wakes up at 5 K RPM. Every engine has it's power and torque curve setup differently.An engine meant for commuting is set up with good low end torque,and maximum mileage .A performance engine is setup differently..... Suzuki GS150 and Yamaha R15...Both are 150 cc,but are worlds apart...just my thought.
              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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              • Originally posted by psr View Post
                RX 100 wakes up at part throttle position..or above 4K RPM.KB 100 wakes up at 5 K RPM. Every engine has it's power and torque curve setup differently.An engine meant for commuting is set up with good low end torque,and maximum mileage .A performance engine is setup differently..... Suzuki GS150 and Yamaha R15...Both are 150 cc,but are worlds apart...just my thought.
                Yeah absolutely! It depends on what you like.Fiero is a top end biased machine.F2 was made more traffic situation friendly ,but still ,they are not as low-end biased as the latest bikes.The RTR and R15 are similar in character,despite being the total opposite in bore and stroke config.That brings the cam and other tuning into picture,which has made them similar.

                Two strokes make power once in every 2 stroke ,were as it's once in every 4 strokes for a four stroke bike.Which is why 2 strokers have a linear torque curve were as fours strokes are peaky and make power at higher revs.
                Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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                • Hi every one ,i am the proud owner of classic fiero,but my fiero is not in good condition.
                  Desperate for a date with "LEH LADAKH"

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                  • can anyone suggest me a good mechanic in pune for Fiero
                    Desperate for a date with "LEH LADAKH"

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                    • 1.Speedo meter is not working
                      2.Tic-2 sound is coming from the engine(mechanic told me that camshaft and rocker need to be replaced)
                      3.Rear drum needs to b changed.
                      4.paint job is required.
                      Last edited by samarjeet; 12-06-2010, 11:48 PM.
                      Desperate for a date with "LEH LADAKH"

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                      • Originally posted by chief ashman View Post
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                        Gixxer, We (Imjoshee & mel) have done the speed comp test by trying to speed full blast at 40 kmph in the 4th gear. The test results were , I guess not too impressive. You are saying it is a good move ... to get a comp test done with a compression gauge right? to get the exact figure. I guess the thumb on the spark plug vent is a temporary method. You are quite right about the test... I think our aging bikes do need a proper comp test done.
                        Now what say the test results don't look too promising... how to go about then? Is it possible to get the stock (brand new) engine compression back in our bikes?
                        its not like just ride at a particular rpm and then wack it up all open.

                        the idea is getting a rhythm first and then wacking the throttle hard, not all the way to full.
                        if you guys are familiar with wheelies, you'll realize that there's no idea as after so and so rpm, wack the throttle and stuff like that.
                        you need to attain a certain speed, make sure that the throttle is completely gelled in well and then wack it up hard and move 2-3 inches behind, what actually happens is that the front wheel lifts off...

                        now this very same thing to be done at a higher rpm and a higher gear is what gixxer is telling you to do...
                        try a lower gear (2nd for example), keep it at cruising speed meant for that particular gear, rise the throttle to a mm SLOWLY first when the bike tries to revv due to that mm of increment, wack it up, you'll realize a jerk, do this once or twice and you'll get that RHYTHM, now just put it on third gear and try, similarly put it on 4th gear and try.

                        its like counter steering, you'll have to experience it to know how it works, go ahead and give it a try..

                        the compression of the fiero will be 150 psi, and that thumb over the knob wont help, your compression gauge doesn't give you the figure of 150 all of a sudden, it rises to 100 in first kick, rises to 125 or so in the second kick and then reaches 150 in the third or the forth kick.
                        Giving a lot to a fiero.
                        Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                        • Originally posted by samarjeet View Post
                          1.Speedo meter is not working
                          2.Tic-2 sound is coming from the engine(mechanic told me that camshaft and rocker need to be replaced)
                          3.Rear drum needs to b changed.
                          4.paint job is required.
                          how old is your fiero ??
                          how many kms has it run ??
                          speedo issue can be solved in a cheap and easy way, tick tock sound can also be the tappets (unlikely though), or your timing chain, any more unusual noise like metal grinding or something like that ??

                          tintin here (who started this thread) is from pune i guess !!
                          Giving a lot to a fiero.
                          Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                          • Ya Nanobhai i m from pune!!

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                            • Originally posted by samarjeet View Post
                              1.Speedo meter is not working
                              2.Tic-2 sound is coming from the engine(mechanic told me that camshaft and rocker need to be replaced)
                              3.Rear drum needs to b changed.
                              4.paint job is required.
                              dude u have to check the speedometer. if the fault is in the meter itself, so i guess you will have to replace the whole unit, or the problem may be with the speedo cable...

                              regarding the tic tic sound, i guess its from the tappets..

                              Rear drums or the liner?? drums r a bit costly. u will have have to consult with a TVS authorised service center.
                              where do you stay in Pune??

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                              • Originally posted by samarjeet View Post
                                1.Speedo meter is not working
                                2.Tic-2 sound is coming from the engine(mechanic told me that camshaft and rocker need to be replaced)
                                3.Rear drum needs to b changed.
                                4.paint job is required.
                                and the paint job will have to be done from a paint shop that does Car/bike painting..

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