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**sukhith** · 07-09-2015, 12:44 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

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how to clean chain manually.. any help.. SVC charges 295 for Lube and Chain wash..

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**Jithesh Kt** · 07-09-2015, 04:05 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by raintree View Post

A couple of days back, I completed a Bangalore - Chennai - Bangalore round trip over a week. Not worth writing a travelogue about this as the distance is relatively small and the roads are 6 lane with good scenic views between Krishnagiri and Vellore.

Bangalore - Chennai:

Filled a tankful of Shell petrol the night before the journey and left early in the morning. On State Highways, cruised at around 70 to 80 kmph and on National Highways cruised at around 80 to 90 kmph. Finished the 365 km journey and the bike was still running on mains. Over the next few days rode another 83 kms in city riding conditions and the bike still didn't hit reserve.

It was time to return to Bangalore again, so reached a Shell petrol pump in Chennai and asked them to fuel the bike to a tank full again. He filled up 8.99 litres before petrol reached the fuel nozzle at the top indicating a tankful. So 365+83 = 448 kms done using 9 litres of petrol. This equates to a mileage of 50 kmpl on highways when cruising at 70 to 90 kmph speeds. I am a happy man and I checked air levels on both wheels again before heading home. @srinath2494 sorry I couldn't meetup due to prior commitments during this trip. There is always a next time.

Now the sad part.

Chennai - Bangalore:

As usual, left Chennai early in the morning. Having just discovered the previous night that the Gixxer gave me 50 kmpl on highways, I wanted to test if I can further enhance the mileage on this bike. So kept the bike between 70 and 80 kmph on the speedometer strictly. It was windy for about 80% of this journey (which wasn't the case during my onward trip). The fuel meter start dipping too quickly. I was telling myself maybe the digital fuel meter is showing wrong readings or has become faulty. But 325 kms after I started riding this bike on a tankful(12 ltrs) I hit reserve. That's a mileage of 33.8 kmpl for this trip which is quite shocking. I can't think of any reasons why there is such a drastic drop in mileage level as only the previous night I got a 50 kmpl mileage on the same highway.

Would appreciate it if mods/experienced tourers could give me some insights on why this happened and if I have to get anything checked.

May be problem with the quality of petrol you filled second time ?

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**Dynamo** · 07-09-2015, 05:12 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by raintree View Post

A couple of days back, I completed a Bangalore - Chennai - Bangalore round trip over a week. Not worth writing a travelogue about this as the distance is relatively small and the roads are 6 lane with good scenic views between Krishnagiri and Vellore.

Bangalore - Chennai:

Filled a tankful of Shell petrol the night before the journey and left early in the morning. On State Highways, cruised at around 70 to 80 kmph and on National Highways cruised at around 80 to 90 kmph. Finished the 365 km journey and the bike was still running on mains. Over the next few days rode another 83 kms in city riding conditions and the bike still didn't hit reserve.

It was time to return to Bangalore again, so reached a Shell petrol pump in Chennai and asked them to fuel the bike to a tank full again. He filled up 8.99 litres before petrol reached the fuel nozzle at the top indicating a tankful. So 365+83 = 448 kms done using 9 litres of petrol. This equates to a mileage of 50 kmpl on highways when cruising at 70 to 90 kmph speeds. I am a happy man and I checked air levels on both wheels again before heading home. @srinath2494 sorry I couldn't meetup due to prior commitments during this trip. There is always a next time.

Now the sad part.

Chennai - Bangalore:

As usual, left Chennai early in the morning. Having just discovered the previous night that the Gixxer gave me 50 kmpl on highways, I wanted to test if I can further enhance the mileage on this bike. So kept the bike between 70 and 80 kmph on the speedometer strictly. It was windy for about 80% of this journey (which wasn't the case during my onward trip). The fuel meter start dipping too quickly. I was telling myself maybe the digital fuel meter is showing wrong readings or has become faulty. But 325 kms after I started riding this bike on a tankful(12 ltrs) I hit reserve. That's a mileage of 33.8 kmpl for this trip which is quite shocking. I can't think of any reasons why there is such a drastic drop in mileage level as only the previous night I got a 50 kmpl mileage on the same highway.

Would appreciate it if mods/experienced tourers could give me some insights on why this happened and if I have to get anything checked.

anyone travelled along with you ? Have checked any air leak or any symptoms of air leak ? Did you notice any petrol spill from tank while cornering ? Is anyone inspected your bike while you were in chennai ? What about wind blasts ? Is that pushing you from back or from front ? Any continuous hard acceleration for some kms ?

May i know the exact location of the shell pump which you filled in chennai. I heard that very few of the shell pumps are not up to the mark in quality. I think you filled in porur on the left side ? Near DLF ?

**Divya Sharan** · 07-09-2015, 05:34 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by raintree View Post

That's a mileage of 33.8 kmpl for this trip which is quite shocking. I can't think of any reasons why there is such a drastic drop in mileage level as only the previous night I got a 50 kmpl mileage on the same highway.

1. How heavy were the crosswinds? If they were absolutely against your direction of movement, then yes you can see up to 10-15 kmpl loss in average fuel consumption.
2. Are you sure you got the right quantity of fuel @Shell?
3. Did you lubricate your chain prior to the run back to Bangalore? Though it won't cause the average fuel consumption to drop from 50 to 33, but still the difference would be substantial.

**srinath2494** · 07-09-2015, 08:31 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Avinash666 View Post

Yes, it can be done easily. Locate a small star type nut-bolt exactly under the headlight. Loosen it. Adjust the headlight, then tighten the bolt back.

All righty then I will do it after checking the headlight throw once again.

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Originally posted by raintree View Post

A couple of days back, I completed a Bangalore - Chennai - Bangalore round trip over a week. Not worth writing a travelogue about this as the distance is relatively small and the roads are 6 lane with good scenic views between Krishnagiri and Vellore.

Bangalore - Chennai:

Filled a tankful of Shell petrol the night before the journey and left early in the morning. On State Highways, cruised at around 70 to 80 kmph and on National Highways cruised at around 80 to 90 kmph. Finished the 365 km journey and the bike was still running on mains. Over the next few days rode another 83 kms in city riding conditions and the bike still didn't hit reserve.

It was time to return to Bangalore again, so reached a Shell petrol pump in Chennai and asked them to fuel the bike to a tank full again. He filled up 8.99 litres before petrol reached the fuel nozzle at the top indicating a tankful. So 365+83 = 448 kms done using 9 litres of petrol. This equates to a mileage of 50 kmpl on highways when cruising at 70 to 90 kmph speeds. I am a happy man and I checked air levels on both wheels again before heading home. @srinath2494 sorry I couldn't meetup due to prior commitments during this trip. There is always a next time.

Now the sad part.

Chennai - Bangalore:

As usual, left Chennai early in the morning. Having just discovered the previous night that the Gixxer gave me 50 kmpl on highways, I wanted to test if I can further enhance the mileage on this bike. So kept the bike between 70 and 80 kmph on the speedometer strictly. It was windy for about 80% of this journey (which wasn't the case during my onward trip). The fuel meter start dipping too quickly. I was telling myself maybe the digital fuel meter is showing wrong readings or has become faulty. But 325 kms after I started riding this bike on a tankful(12 ltrs) I hit reserve. That's a mileage of 33.8 kmpl for this trip which is quite shocking. I can't think of any reasons why there is such a drastic drop in mileage level as only the previous night I got a 50 kmpl mileage on the same highway.

Would appreciate it if mods/experienced tourers could give me some insights on why this happened and if I have to get anything checked.

Fine, Sir we'll organize a bigger meet next time :P

I think I can guess what happened. I once took my older bike, RTR 180, on Highways en route to Trichy. While going onward, I got a mere 30kmpl mileage and I realised that most of the time I had to duck in because of heavy winds blowing against me and also due to cross winds. I checked my tachometer. It usually revvs over 4k rpm in 4th gear while doing 40 kmph. And when I rolled on and accelerated from there I couldn't get the pace I could do that with usually! Also I found that my bike revved over 9-9.5k rpm in 5th gear while doing 95kmph itself! It usually does higher speeds at that range when there are no winds! 8k rpm range is where it made all its power. It was a very windy morning.

Then during the return trip it was sunny with no winds just a few hours post noon. I was doing constant 80-90kmph with tachometer reading showing lesser than 8-8.5k rpm. I could feel the pull during in gear acceleration because this time wind was favoring me or there were no winds at all. I got a mileage of 41.7(approx. 42) kmpl this time by continually maintaining such speeds :P Wind is a such a spoilsport if it's against the rider and the bike.

Did you notice at what revvs your bike was doing those speeds? I would say it would have done it at higher rpm range if there was actually a drag. More fuel for more revvs!

**SatSon** · 07-09-2015, 08:57 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by srinath2494 View Post

All righty then I will do it after checking the headlight throw once again.

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Fine, Sir we'll organize a bigger meet next time :P

I think I can guess what happened. I once took my older bike, RTR 180, on Highways en route to Trichy. While going onward, I got a mere 30kmpl mileage and I realised that most of the time I had to duck in because of heavy winds blowing against me and also due to cross winds. I checked my tachometer. It usually revvs over 4k rpm in 4th gear while doing 40 kmph. And when I rolled on and accelerated from there I couldn't get the pace I could do that with usually! Also I found that my bike revved over 9-9.5k rpm in 5th gear while doing 95kmph itself! It usually does higher speeds at that range when there are no winds! 8k rpm range is where it made all its power. It was a very windy morning.

Then during the return trip it was sunny with no winds just a few hours post noon. I was doing constant 80-90kmph with tachometer reading showing lesser than 8-8.5k rpm. I could feel the pull during in gear acceleration because this time wind was favoring me or there were no winds at all. I got a mileage of 41.7(approx. 42) kmpl this time by continually maintaining such speeds :P Wind is a such a spoilsport if it's against the rider and the bike.

Did you notice at what revvs your bike was doing those speeds? I would say it would have done it at higher rpm range if there was actually a drag. More fuel for more revvs!

AFAIK, speed to RPM ratio has nothing to do with cross winds.
Wind is there or not, at a specific RPM your bike's speed will be the same, unless you have changed the sprockets, or tire size.
But the fuel needed to attain the speeds vary, which would result in change in fuel consumption.

**Avinash666** · 07-09-2015, 09:34 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

AFAIK, speed to RPM ratio has nothing to do with cross winds.
Wind is there or not, at a specific RPM your bike's speed will be the same, unless you have changed the sprockets, or tire size.
But the fuel needed to attain the speeds vary, which would result in change in fuel consumption.

Maybe you're right theoratically. But I've experienced it in person. For example, my bike does 62-63 at 5k rpm when going along the wind but against it, it does 58-60.

**sagar.sutar** · 07-09-2015, 09:42 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by elangoas View Post

Thanx buddy...I currently own a 2009 Karizma R.. Done abt 88K Kms on ODO so far....

My expectations for next bike : Same old karizma (half faired) with Fuel Injection.. (or) a 200cc Unicorn (or) Yamaha FAZER FI with bigger engine... But none of them were there...

As soon as i saw the Suzuki Gixxer, it appealed to me... So decided to take test ride of the bike.. Went to showroom (SMS Suzuki, Tiruvallur, TamilNadu), requested for a test ride....At first i was accompanied by a pillion (Showroom Executive), later i requested them for a solo ride... They duly obliged..... The moment i sat on the bike, the position was so good... Never felt that on my Karizma R....The bike pulled easily without any glitches....I was impressed, may be because it was 15 Kgs Lighter than Karizma, i felt it like that....

BTW i commute around 90 Kms a day...So immediately finalised the bike & went thru bank loan...

I paid 83,058 (OTR) in Tiruvallur (Chennai)....

Hey... Even i'm planning to buy Gixxer SF.. but i'm little skeptical about it because of less power... I too owned Karizma R for almost 7 years...

So dude.. can you guide me... if gixxer is better than karizma in terms of acceleration and feel..???

**srinath2494** · 07-09-2015, 10:20 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

AFAIK, speed to RPM ratio has nothing to do with cross winds.
Wind is there or not, at a specific RPM your bike's speed will be the same, unless you have changed the sprockets, or tire size.
But the fuel needed to attain the speeds vary, which would result in change in fuel consumption.

It's good to see the cross winds not affecting the ride in calculations and as words but true to one's riding experience, it really needs more throttle to push forward. It happens in tvs xl super too :/

Yes as you said, the fuel needed by the bike to attain the same road speed will be different and the stress here comes from increased engine speed to attain the road speed. I noticed the same thing happen when I ride with under inflated tyres, showing different road speed for the same engine speed.

With a different school of thought, we can also say that the speedo error increases drastically during wind or with other factors and that we give the engine more fuel to compensate the error and reach the usual value otherwise :P

**sagar.sutar** · 07-09-2015, 10:24 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by sandeepcf View Post

Thank you for posting the picture of the battery. I am really not able to infer from the picture if there is more room for a bigger battery or not. And by bigger battery I mean lenght wise.
3AH or 4AH can power 55/60 but the battery's life will become short which leads to kickstarting in the morning. I have seen this on my friends FAZER and DC converted Glamour and CD deluxe.
Navratri wishes.

It simple equation of power my friend. Here's the link.

How to convert amps to watts (W)

3 AH x 12 volts (14 volts when revving in high RPMs) = 36 watts (42 watts max)

**imranaryan** · 07-10-2015, 12:25 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by sukhith View Post

Watch "Motorcycle Myth Buster: Chain Lube." on YouTube - Motorcycle Myth Buster: Chain Lube.: https://youtu.be/XXeWCMd5KYM

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apart form Motul which other chain lube do you suggest

**raintree** · 07-10-2015, 04:21 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Dynamo View Post

anyone travelled along with you ? Have checked any air leak or any symptoms of air leak ? Did you notice any petrol spill from tank while cornering ? Is anyone inspected your bike while you were in chennai ? What about wind blasts ? Is that pushing you from back or from front ? Any continuous hard acceleration for some kms ?

May i know the exact location of the shell pump which you filled in chennai. I heard that very few of the shell pumps are not up to the mark in quality. I think you filled in porur on the left side ? Near DLF ?

no, it was a solo ride! There was no air leak as I checked this after reaching home in Bangalore. I filled up 2 psi above the company recommended values for both wheels(for both onward and return trips) and both had lost 1 psi. No spilt petrol either and I never allowed anyone else to touch my bike whilst in Chennai. Had a lot of cross winds and head winds for most part of this journey. At times it was powerful enough to push the bike off the line I was taking on the highway. Maintained the bike's speed between 70 to 80 kmph all through the journey. The engine never felt stressed or hot running at those speeds for prolonged periods. So I wouldn't call it hard acceleration.

Tanked up from the Shell station at 200 feet road connecting Airport road with OMR road.

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Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

1. How heavy were the crosswinds? If they were absolutely against your direction of movement, then yes you can see up to 10-15 kmpl loss in average fuel consumption.
2. Are you sure you got the right quantity of fuel @Shell?
3. Did you lubricate your chain prior to the run back to Bangalore? Though it won't cause the average fuel consumption to drop from 50 to 33, but still the difference would be substantial.

1. Cross winds at times was worse enough to push the bike off the line I was taking on the road. Head wind was pushing me back at times too.
2. Haven't used this Shell station before but I went along with the shell reputation. I was physically there with the bike on centre stand and I did see the petrol reach the fuel nozzle on the top before I asked him to stop. Can't comment about the quality of the petrol though.
3. I didn't carry the chain lube and I was thinking this might have affected the mileage a bit? But before the ride back I did inspect the chain and the connectors and O rings looked reasonably wet as I did lubricate it before riding down to Chennai. I also ran the bike on first gear and I didn't hear any squeaky noise that we hear if there is excessive friction. As a safety measure, immediately upon returning I did lube the chain.

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Originally posted by srinath2494 View Post

All righty then I will do it after checking the headlight throw once again.

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Did you notice at what revvs your bike was doing those speeds? I would say it would have done it at higher rpm range if there was actually a drag. More fuel for more revvs!

no changes at rpm and speed levels! My bike usually does 80 kmph @ 5750 rpm and it was the same during this return trip where I lost mileage. Since you live around the same area as mine, any reviews about the fuel quality of the Shell station located in the 200 ft road between Pallavaram and Keelkattalai?

**Dynamo** · 07-10-2015, 08:52 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by imranaryan View Post

apart form Motul which other chain lube do you suggest

Try 3M chain lube very much cheaper compared to motul. I'm using it on my gixxer. Really works well.

**Kathir Skp** · 07-10-2015, 09:08 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by elangoas View Post

I had a strange problem in the last few days when it rained heavily in chennai..... Self start wan't working... Battery is perfectly fine, lights, horns all work fine.. When i press self start, there is no sign of bike starting... It didn't even make sound....

I tried to analyse the problem, later found that it was because of water spilling on the starter motor.... Whenever water spills heavily from the tyre on to the starter motor, there is no response when you engage self.... I tried kicking the bike in the same situation & it started without a choke....

So clearly the problem is with self-start motor when it getz wet.... has anyone experienced this problem so far ?

same problem I faced yesterday, but bike was not in the rain. Just 20days old gixxer. Any suggestion?

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**windrider007** · 07-10-2015, 10:18 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Kathir Skp View Post

same problem I faced yesterday, but bike was not in the rain. Just 20days old gixxer. Any suggestion?

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could the water being splashed onto the starter motor be entering it via some small gap and causing slight rusting within?? This may cause the moving parts to become fused together. The vibrations from riding a few kilometers may be breaking those parts joined together, making them work fine after sometime. I'm no mechanic of course, just my thought

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