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**outworldly maniac** · 07-14-2009, 11:48 PM

If you know how to ... you can change the gears without using clutch handle
no harm in it
infact your clutch plates will last for ages

but it requires extreme precision which only professional racer and riders have or for that matter even experienced people
so it is good that we use the clutch
if you have money in your pocket ... try it
because if you keep goofing up ... your clutch system will be pieces
and it costs

@ mr dhiwakar

wow.... you own a 1964 bullet
hope you realize that it is a vintage item now
you have taken care of it till now ... so do the same in the future also
all the best with your bullet and your GS( vibrato ) R

**kumarprabhatn** · 07-15-2009, 06:36 AM

Ok.. I have GS150R. Finished 265kms on odo. I m getting 53.3kmpl. Its good for normal 150cc bikes but I ve seen people report around 60kmpl. How come? My driving is sane. I drive 48kmph avg. I drive 30kms daily, 70% of distance on highways and 30% distance in cities. Has anyone come up with a solution for headlights yet?

**mrsrini** · 07-15-2009, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by kumarprabhatn View Post

Ok.. I have GS150R. Finished 265kms on odo. I m getting 53.3kmpl. Its good for normal 150cc bikes but I ve seen people report around 60kmpl. How come? My driving is sane. I drive 48kmph avg. I drive 30kms daily, 70% of distance on highways and 30% distance in cities. Has anyone come up with a solution for headlights yet?

Hi Kumar,
guess your figures are more or less at par.. I have got my first mileage (my odo is at 120 kms) as 55kpl.. 50% drive through city traffic, 50% night riding. Surely it will improve after 1st service. and as far as i know, the only solution for the headlight is to change it!

**vensan** · 07-15-2009, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by kumarprabhatn View Post

Ok.. I have GS150R. Finished 265kms on odo. I m getting 53.3kmpl. Its good for normal 150cc bikes but I ve seen people report around 60kmpl. How come? My driving is sane. I drive 48kmph avg. I drive 30kms daily, 70% of distance on highways and 30% distance in cities. Has anyone come up with a solution for headlights yet?

Hi kumar,
first congardulation for became a proud owner of GS.
Getting 53km/l before 1st service is not a bad millage.Even i finished 290km in ODO and i got 60.8 km/l.It depends on where u put petrol,where ur bike take rest(under the sun),how frequent u change gears/clutch/break....so don't worry ur bike defenetly improve milage after 1st service...

Early when i buy my lebero g5 it gave me 73km/l before 1st service...after few month itz comes down to 60-65.Itz vice-versa.Drive casully....i never drive my GS as a new bike......i just synchronize my foots with the engine sound...i does't mean that if we run the bike in low speed or rpm it will give more millage...so just drive ur bike as it goes...itz my personal opinion.

**imjoshee** · 07-15-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by ssivakumar.r View Post

how starter help in moving vehicle... as it wont work if clutch is not pressed

Siva,
I have no clue about this because even I was surprised how did the bike start since there is a clutch switch.But when I put the bike in 1st gear & pressed the starter button,the bike jerked & it was in motion.

You can give it a try & maybe you could give a detailed explaination as to how this can happen since you are a mechanical engineer & I read couple of your previous posts wherein you have give detailed info.

Vishal

**akfara** · 07-15-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by kumarprabhatn View Post

Ok.. I have GS150R. Finished 265kms on odo. I m getting 53.3kmpl. Its good for normal 150cc bikes but I ve seen people report around 60kmpl. How come? My driving is sane. I drive 48kmph avg. I drive 30kms daily, 70% of distance on highways and 30% distance in cities. Has anyone come up with a solution for headlights yet?

Ya there is a solution offered by suzuki india itself and service engg from pondy called personally and told,positioning of reflucter,if u adjust the focus using positioning this can be solved he himself have a GS150R he got adjusted and he tell me now got good light....
I got bad mileage which i going to report on 2nd service 3000km,45kmpl may be due to valve adjustment
He also told so far 120 bikes sold in pondy,some of them here in this thread wrote that they not seen so many GS150R...

**dhiwakar** · 07-15-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by ssivakumar.r View Post

bullet and GS are different class... further i think your bullet had partially engaged clutch(clutch slip in fully engaged position)

which reduced the jerks while engaging the gears.

and Race bikes are designed considering riders easiness, so they provide some tolerance for clutchless riding. further race bikes have short life as you know.

But still anyone want to have a clutchless ride, then buy HERO HONDA STREET in second hand market

I would still advice you not to follow this atleast for 1600kms.

@sivakumar sir

i dont understand what you mean by partially engaged clutch.. pls explain .. also i used the same technique in my old victor . The victor had done 1.3 lakh kms till last month. I had changed the clutch plate only once, i.e.dec 2008 when it was around 1.2 lakh km..almost 100% the machine was in city traffic..the victor had experience only two long distance trips .. one in 2002 between coimbatore and salem and one hill trip between salem and yercaud..

When i accidentally engaged the gear without clutch in my santro, there was a wild sound.. thank god nothing damaged...so i have not used this technique in cars....

Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post

If you know how to ... you can change the gears without using clutch handle
no harm in it
infact your clutch plates will last for ages

but it requires extreme precision which only professional racer and riders have or for that matter even experienced people
so it is good that we use the clutch
if you have money in your pocket ... try it
because if you keep goofing up ... your clutch system will be pieces
and it costs

@ mr dhiwakar

wow.... you own a 1964 bullet
hope you realize that it is a vintage item now
you have taken care of it till now ... so do the same in the future also
all the best with your bullet and your GS( vibrato ) R

@maniac sir

My father takes care of his bullet, while i ride only

.. but i felt that GS is 150CC bullet . little fussy like bullet.. think one needs a passion for GS like the bullet owners have for their's... if taken care GS will last long i feel.. just like samurai's that we still see in the road..

But will the Four stroke of GS match the 2stroke of Samurai??is suzuki so sure about its 4 stroke... only time will tell..

**outworldly maniac** · 07-15-2009, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by dhiwakar View Post

@maniac sir

My father takes care of his bullet, while i ride only

.. but i felt that GS is 150CC bullet . little fussy like bullet.. think one needs a passion for GS like the bullet owners have for their's... if taken care GS will last long i feel.. just like samurai's that we still see in the road..

But will the Four stroke of GS match the 2stroke of Samurai??is suzuki so sure about its 4 stroke... only time will tell..

@ adarniya dhiwakar ji

i think we cannot use this clutchless shifting technique in cars ....
also its costs a bomb ( acc to me ) so.........
i am not sure though
you can research if you like

please dont compare a BULLET with a gsr

yeah you need passion for everything you do in life

two strokes are a different thing ... a different experience which all riders must experience once in a lifetime atleast

like yamaha R15 and FZ are kind of experiments ....
the gsr is an experiment for suzuki ....
dont know whats going on there
can just sit and watch .....

seems like yamaha won n suzuki are having a tough time

anyways i think they should be given some time
feels nice that you think positive about your ride
kudos to gsr owners here who made you feel comfortable N confident

cheers

**dhiwakar** · 07-15-2009, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post

@ adarniya dhiwakar ji

i think we cannot use this clutchless shifting technique in cars ....
also its costs a bomb ( acc to me ) so.........
i am not sure though
you can research if you like

please dont compare a BULLET with a gsr

yeah you need passion for everything you do in life

two strokes are a different thing ... a different experience which all riders must experience once in a lifetime atleast

like yamaha R15 and FZ are kind of experiments ....
the gsr is an experiment for suzuki ....
dont know whats going on there
can just sit and watch .....

seems like yamaha won n suzuki are having a tough time

anyways i think they should be given some time
feels nice that you think positive about your ride
kudos to gsr owners here who made you feel comfortable N confident

cheers

you are right poojya sri maniac

cars clutch behave in a different manner and deliver power to the vehicle in a different way.. i.e. you can cruisein a car in any gear on a flat surface without pressing the accelearator pedal... clutch delivers unninteruppted power.. the same is not in the cae of bike as if you leave the throttle, the bike slows down and comes to a jerking halt...

regarding bullet comment, the 150cc bullet comment was given by my father, who has been riding the bullet aeon...

Experiment??? eek... means we are rats?? and waht if suzu fails?? gone for a toss for sure we are..my rs. 68,000 ... fainting sirs...

**ssivakumar.r** · 07-15-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by imjoshee View Post

Siva,
I have no clue about this because even I was surprised how did the bike start since there is a clutch switch.But when I put the bike in 1st gear & pressed the starter button,the bike jerked & it was in motion.

You can give it a try & maybe you could give a detailed explaination as to how this can happen since you are a mechanical engineer & I read couple of your previous posts wherein you have give detailed info.

Vishal

oh ya i forgot that... clutch switch senses whether clutch lever is pressed... not the clutch...

**animeher** · 07-15-2009, 04:22 PM

Relax guys, it is not that we are having problems each day and stuff. The clutchless shifting discussion is already done to death. If at all the clutch cable snaps, you can still ride the bike for some distance, depending on your experience and self confidence. I have taken the GS on a long ride, through hard rains and slippery roads, and it came out glowing! So chillax, and enjoy your ride. I am sure most of us will grow old before GS shows its age

**ssivakumar.r** · 07-15-2009, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by dhiwakar View Post

@sivakumar sir

i dont understand what you mean by partially engaged clutch.. pls explain .. also i used the same technique in my old victor . The victor had done 1.3 lakh kms till last month. I had changed the clutch plate only once, i.e.dec 2008 when it was around 1.2 lakh km..almost 100% the machine was in city traffic..the victor had experience only two long distance trips .. one in 2002 between coimbatore and salem and one hill trip between salem and yercaud..

i forgot to say another reason... worn out clutch plates

partially engaged clutch - is happened when you reduce the free play in clutch cable, i mean clutch is not fully engaged even you released the clutch lever fully. this will allow some slip in clutch even its fully engaged.

**ssivakumar.r** · 07-15-2009, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by animeher View Post

Relax guys, it is not that we are having problems each day and stuff. The clutchless shifting discussion is already done to death. If at all the clutch cable snaps, you can still ride the bike for some distance, depending on your experience and self confidence. I have taken the GS on a long ride, through hard rains and slippery roads, and it came out glowing! So chillax, and enjoy your ride. I am sure most of us will grow old before GS shows its age

I like your last sentence

**outworldly maniac** · 07-15-2009, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by dhiwakar View Post

you are right poojya sri maniac

lol.... now stop it brother

this all sir and various titles are not needed here ...
call me maniac .... suits me

Originally posted by dhiwakar View Post

regarding bullet comment, the 150cc bullet comment was given by my father, who has been riding the bullet aeon...

okie dokie

Originally posted by dhiwakar View Post

Experiment??? eek... means we are rats?? and waht if suzu fails?? gone for a toss for sure we are..my rs. 68,000 ... fainting sirs...

yeah an experiment
now if it fails ... suzuki might come up with a better bike or wrap up business .... but the latter seems unlikely ... they have a decent market of their access , zeus and heat ... access specially

so i dont think you all will have a problem with spare parts also
it will hurt suzuki 's image and will never be respected in the market again is something like this happens

and now dont think on this terms ... something has to happen.. it will happen
enjoy the ride mate .... and then faint

as you yourself said.... u need to take care of it ... thats it and think positive

who knows those japanese guys who came to take feedback might come up with a solution and clear the bugs in your bikes in probably some months or probably keep them in mind and launch the next gen GSR

cheers

@ bubbly

any feedback brother ?

**yesemkay** · 07-15-2009, 05:53 PM

Hi this is Murali from Chennai. I bought this GS on june 22nd from ABT Suzuki- Nandanam. So far i have not faced any problems. I'll post my experience soon.

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