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**Shadowfax** · 07-10-2009, 11:04 AM

@karthic2211 Head light beam adjusted in what direction ? Left, right, up down ?
I will also get it done...

(are u offline ? Im goin in 15 mins

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**abhi_gsr** · 07-10-2009, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Bubbly View Post

You can do a 30 with GS @ 6th gear without knocking

..... When i have to come down suddenly to 30 from 60, I just move with the 6th cog.. Strictly no down shoifting

When i am riding at a speed of 30 in a High Gear, say 5th or 6th and when i try to accelerate, i get some knocking kind of noise while accelerating. Not exactly Knocking actually. It's kinda difficult to describe. I mean the acceleration is not smooth. Once it crosses 40 or so, then it becomes smooth. Anyways, i generally don't ride in Low Speeds on High Gears.
Hows it in your Case?

**dhiwakar** · 07-10-2009, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Augustine09 View Post

@dhiwakar
Hello. I got my bike from pallavaram showroom[Jain Suzuki]. I was given the privelege to choose my bike but was not able to due to my hectic work schedule. There were some times i thought i should have chosen my bike.
I just had a look at it when it went for registration. I had to argue with the SC guy just to listen to the engine at idling and thats all I did[or i could do]. Just bought it trusting the dealer.
TIll now apart form the regular complaints[3.5K vibes, rear brake not effective, headlights], this bike is excellent. I've done 1440 on the odo. gear shifting is getting smoother and smoother.... down shifting was never a prob. May be sometimes. The 3.5K vibes does not seem as a problem to me at all.
Somebody has mentioned about vibes near the tank, Today while i was coming from office i noticed that there were no vibes near the tank[at 5.5Krpm, will test at higher rpm tommorrow]. Coming to milleage, I get close to around 55 in the city, and thats impressive.
Your problem seems to be unique which needs to be rectified as earliest as possible. Remember to follow it up with the SC guys and keep buggin them until they fix those.

ok sir.. will bug them to the core till they fix it.. anyawys, one Mr. Ramkumar the sales guy at ABT , was extremely courteous and has assured me that he will personally get the problems fixed up during service... lets hope for the best

Originally posted by karthic2211 View Post

Hey buddy, You're married. So i am sure you will be elder than me. I am still a student. So please don't call me sir.

In the begining, even a newly married girl won't behave as you wish. She has to forget his family and she has to set to your localty, your family and everything. Give her some time to adjust herself to your conditions. Until then you have to wait. Am i right?

I think your first wife is victor. Your second wife is GS150R (Just imagine it

). If you compare these two, you may get a feeling of unsatisfaction

. So i am sure you can't able to enjoy your married life.

Better forget your first wife and cope with your new mate buddy.

First service completed.

After the first service, all the WOW factor in the bike increased double. The bike is WOW and WOW. Everything is smooth. All the complaints is been checked except the 3.5k rpm vibes. Even though it's not completely solved, its much more better now. I have done 1011 kms. Braking is much better now. I complained about the poor headlight. They said they have adjusted the headlight beam. Guys belive me or not, it's way better than before. I am satisfied with it's performance. Regarding Viberations, i haven't checked in higher rpm's. I will update that later. So dhiwakar, your first service is more important one. Don't forget to tell all your complaints to your service center incharge. Ask them to check it properly. I hope after your first service you'll be a happy GS owner.

One doubt regarding your down shifting buddy.

In chennai city's traffic, how you put 6th gear. At what speed you're shifting to 6th gear. I feel the 6th gear is useful only in highways. When coming to a sudden hault 6 - 0 might be difficult. But if it is in 3rd gear or 4th gear, it will be easy to bring it back to neutral. It's just my thought buddy.

i shift to 6th gear around 30 kms.. at 2.5 to 3.0 rpm.. and slowly accelerate.. i did not find any difficulty in moving to sixth gear in traffic.. yes in very close traffic 6th gear is not possible.. nothing above 4th...

after hearing your service feedback, i feel a little consolation.. hope muruga helps...

Regarding marriage.. karthik, please try getting married.... you will become mad.... think of second marriage??? you will be more happier in committing suicide than marrying second.....

but going by your analogy.. second wife should be more dearer , far better and cooperative..but would be of high maintenance..

any comments

**Shadowfax** · 07-10-2009, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by abhi_gsr View Post

When i am riding at a speed of 30 in a High Gear, say 5th or 6th and when i try to accelerate, i get some knocking kind of noise while accelerating. Not exactly Knocking actually. It's kinda difficult to describe. I mean the acceleration is not smooth. Once it crosses 40 or so, then it becomes smooth. Anyways, i generally don't ride in Low Speeds on High Gears.
Hows it in your Case?

Yes I know.. I don't know if its called knocking... how much u've done on Odo ? That orange test GS I rode was completely smooth and uniformly sounded throughout.. nothing like our GS.. it had done 2881 on odo.

**abhi_gsr** · 07-10-2009, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by Shadowfax View Post

Yes I know.. I don't know if its called knocking... how much u've done on Odo ? That orange test GS I rode was completely smooth and uniformly sounded throughout.. nothing like our GS.. it had done 2881 on odo.

The ODO shows around 1300 Kms. I know that's very less Kms covered in 2 Months of Ownership, but am not getting a chance to ride it during Weekdays due to my Work Shift Timings. So, it's only Weekends. That's the Bad Part

So, found any improvement in your Ride after 1st Service?

**Shadowfax** · 07-10-2009, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by abhi_gsr View Post

The ODO shows around 1300 Kms. I know that's very less Kms covered in 2 Months of Ownership, but am not getting a chance to ride it during Weekdays due to my Work Shift Timings. So, it's only Weekends. That's the Bad Part

So, found any improvement in your Ride after 1st Service?

Read my post #1523
If possible go in kothrud suzuki and ride the orange gsr, will be parked outside. you won't believe man...

**karthic2211** · 07-10-2009, 03:15 PM

@shadowfax

I don't know the directions buddy. Just go and complaint about the poor headlight and ask them to adjust headlight beam. They will do it. It's much better than before. I have a lot of improvements in my bike after 1st service. Especially in gear shifting, engine sounds, breaking, and etc.... What about you buddy?

@dhiwakar
Regarding marriage. Buddy i just compare both your bikes. Not your life. Don't take seriously about your life. Just handle your new bike as a newly married girl or a small baby which is learning to crawl. Very soon it'll walk and later it will start to run. Don't mistake me. It's just a real time example.

Regarding gear shifting.
I am new to geared vehicles. So i got lot of suggestions from my friends. Everyone said minimum speed for top gear is around 45 kmph. 30 kmph is very less buddy. I think that's why you're facing all those trouble. Experienced bikers must comment on this. Especially ssivakumar can come up with a better answer. I'll put 4th gear in 30 kmph. 5th in 40 and 6th around 50. Please correct me if i am wrong.

**karthic2211** · 07-10-2009, 03:37 PM

My friend says, riding in top gear in low speeds reduces performance of the bike and affects engine. Is it true?

**animeher** · 07-10-2009, 03:39 PM

Rather than speed, I focus on RPMs for shifting gear. Bare minimum rpms required for shifting to higher gear is 3500-4000. Below that is not optimum. Changing the gears at 5500 will give you great pickup in each gear, as the max torque is developed there. Shifting in 8000 range too will be great for maintaining acceleration, however I am not going to try that before first few services.

For city, stick to 3.5-4k change, and for highway/open roads, shift at 5-5.5k. Same for downshifting, if your rpms drop below 3.5, don't drag the bike unnecessarily. Shift down, take the rpms up and then shift back to high gear.

**prajwalkashyap** · 07-10-2009, 03:43 PM

What animeher said is correct. Speed is not as important as the rpm of the engine when shifting gears. consider shifting up at around 3.5K rpm. Going too slow at a higher gear will result in knocking and damage the clutch plates.

Prajwal

**dhiwakar** · 07-10-2009, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by karthic2211 View Post

@shadowfax

I don't know the directions buddy. Just go and complaint about the poor headlight and ask them to adjust headlight beam. They will do it. It's much better than before. I have a lot of improvements in my bike after 1st service. Especially in gear shifting, engine sounds, breaking, and etc.... What about you buddy?

@dhiwakar
Regarding marriage. Buddy i just compare both your bikes. Not your life. Don't take seriously about your life. Just handle your new bike as a newly married girl or a small baby which is learning to crawl. Very soon it'll walk and later it will start to run. Don't mistake me. It's just a real time example.

Regarding gear shifting.
I am new to geared vehicles. So i got lot of suggestions from my friends. Everyone said minimum speed for top gear is around 45 kmph. 30 kmph is very less buddy. I think that's why you're facing all those trouble. Experienced bikers must comment on this. Especially ssivakumar can come up with a better answer. I'll put 4th gear in 30 kmph. 5th in 40 and 6th around 50. Please correct me if i am wrong.

karthik.. as long as there is no knocking from the engine , riding in least possible speed is fine i suppose..even in my santro i used to go to 5th and leave the vehicle to cruise in small and narrow roads. of course wil be shifting to 3rd or 2nd if i find an incline to climb and then pull...

same case in my fathers bullet which i drive in weekends to my office (1964 military bullet, with original engine.. but with the 2002 carburettor).. top gear easily at 25kmph.... bullet would cruise and you know , it would be butter smooth, which will be even difficult to hear

though the car and bike clutch and gear mech are diff.. just was quoting the above regarding gear...

anyways when pulling rapidly, you need to downshift to 4th at 30 kmph and pull.. whereas i ride at 6th in 30kmph and cruise.. the pull is not so vehement or drastic.. i literally cruise..but how will it cause downshifting problems pls explain...

regarding marriage.. i did not take comments seriously . what i meant was that the second bike should not be high on maintenance like second wife...

**ssivakumar.r** · 07-10-2009, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by karthic2211 View Post

@shadowfax

I don't know the directions buddy. Just go and complaint about the poor headlight and ask them to adjust headlight beam. They will do it. It's much better than before. I have a lot of improvements in my bike after 1st service. Especially in gear shifting, engine sounds, breaking, and etc.... What about you buddy?

@dhiwakar
Regarding marriage. Buddy i just compare both your bikes. Not your life. Don't take seriously about your life. Just handle your new bike as a newly married girl or a small baby which is learning to crawl. Very soon it'll walk and later it will start to run. Don't mistake me. It's just a real time example.

Regarding gear shifting.
I am new to geared vehicles. So i got lot of suggestions from my friends. Everyone said minimum speed for top gear is around 45 kmph. 30 kmph is very less buddy. I think that's why you're facing all those trouble. Experienced bikers must comment on this. Especially ssivakumar can come up with a better answer. I'll put 4th gear in 30 kmph. 5th in 40 and 6th around 50. Please correct me if i am wrong.

me too new to geared vehicles... anyway i made a gearing system(approximate) for this bike such that it is giving smooth shifting(less effort and no jerks).

In Streets: (no acceleration, almost cruising), its not recommended for bikes which are in break in period.
till 10kmph 1st gear
till 18kmph 2nd gear
till 24kmph 3rd gear
till 30kmph 4th gear
30+ in 5th gear (i will touch maximum of about 32 to 35kmph in streets)
i wont use 6th in streets

In Roads:
till 15kmph 1st gear
till 23kmph 2nd gear
till 30kmph 3rd gear
till 43kmph 4th gear
till 50kmph 5th gear

in agressive acceleration
(this too is not recommended for bikes in break in period

)
till 20kmph 1st gear
till 45kmph 2nd gear
till 83kmph 3rd gear
till 95kmph 4th gear
till 100kmph 5th gear
(all values are approximate)

Originally posted by karthic2211 View Post

My friend says, riding in top gear in low speeds reduces performance of the bike and affects engine. Is it true?

there is always a compromise between mileage and engine life... ya its true (i am sure this with cars and buses).

If you maintain the engine speed around 3000-4500rpm then it gives maximum engine life.

you will get maximum mileage around 3000rpm. anything less than that will reduce engine life(in road conditions where bike is continously accelerated).

**karthic2211** · 07-10-2009, 09:30 PM

@dhiwakar
Hey even though you didn't hear any knocking sound from the engine, first it is not at all recommended by anyone. Your engine parts will struggle to give that power in less rpm. I think that's why you're facing all those problems buddy. Consider everyone's comments. No one says that you can put 6th gear within 30 kmph in 2.5k to 3k rpm. You are the only person saying that. Bubbly is speaking about downshifting. He says when riding in 6th gear downshift is not necessory if the speed is above 30. That's something different from this issue. Animeher suggest to change gears at 3.5 k to 4 k rpm. Ssivakumar recommends to shift to 4th gear in 30 kmph. Augustine, Animeher, ssivakumar, shadowfax, sarvajit, hydbiker, sam9s all seams to be experts. I personally insist you to try to follow comments from them buddy. And then check whether your problem remains same or reduces.

**karthic2211** · 07-10-2009, 10:42 PM

@dhiwakar
All your complaints are unique. That's why i'm considering more about your riding skills buddy. I didn't mean that your riding is actually wrong. Your new bike has more power, more cc and an extra gear when compared to your old one. I insist you to change your riding skills according to your new machine buddy. That's it.

**mathewsyriac** · 07-11-2009, 01:11 AM

@diwakar

Sir, the gear shift ratio is a bit different from the other indian bikes...
I was used to a honda shine b4 this bike...
Me too found issues while handling this bike initially, It is completely different from Shine...

Now Guess what???
I find it very hard to handle Shine

So, its time to forget the sweet old memories with ur Victor

And as karthick said u have to adopt new skills to handle GS Buddy...

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