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  • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post

    Dont talk to me like Im a kid man.
    LoL .......I didnt mean to,I thought you are one of them (because I know few of them ),who thought Shogun and Samurai were the same bikes ,the only difference being Shogun looking sportier with all black scheme,fairing and awesome sound......while the Samurai is a less frills bike

    Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
    Ive had the pleasure to acquaint myself with most local 2ts but the rxz and shaolin.
    I have ridden every performance 2ts too,even the variants of the RXZ launched.......the old one made 12 bhp while the new one with 5 gears made 15PS,the Indian RXZs always sported the RX135 engine old or new.

    I have ridden the Shaolin(The first 5 geared bike in India below 200cc) but it felt very clumsy,as I was addicted to Shogun in my teens........but I have heard modded Shaolins does better than Shoguns,yet to verify the fact though


    Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
    I read around that there was another 16 bhp shogun produced...never seen it though.
    The 16bhp Shogun produced was called Shadow,and it was never commercially produced........only 5 bikes were made which were bagged by TVS honchos,trust me,it had 140cc engine with 7 point torque induction like Shogun ...... weighed only 115kg,could have taken Pulsar220F or the R15 all in one go ........but sad thing is,it never passed the emission norms.If you live in Bangalore and hope to cross paths with Joel,he knows the whereabouts of one such bike.........and it had a disc brake and 5 gears.


    Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
    I just miss such kickass riding in 4ts....closest to it Ive enjoyed are fiero
    Well my Dad rides a Suzuki original Fiero ,though it had received a disc brake in due process and TVS supplied clutch plates..........but when it was new,I took it out for a pimply,teenage rampage ride and it did 125kmph on its speedometer without any hue and cry...........though it only has 4 gears and short final drive.But GS150R feels more refined and planted at that speed now and 9 years since.




    Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
    Youre a lucky guy to own a shogun and ride it too. No probs with maintainence?
    I am emotionally connected to my Shogun........I learnt riding on it,when I was studying in the 8th standard.I was unaware of many things of biking back then.There were many boys who smoked me with bikes like RX135 and even LML Energy.........while I kept the Shogun revving in 2-3rd gear ......I felt I had not done justice to the bike then.My Dad went in for the Fiero and the Shogun gathered dust and rust in one corner of our house.I was gifted a Pulsar 180 black version bike by my Dad while I was in college and crashed it 4 months later,broke a finger........motorcycling ceased for me then.Finally when I started earning my share in the family,I felt determined to revive the Shogun and make it a fast 2T,even if that meant turning the world over for me..........so I contacted Hosur,and got supplied.
    My Shogun now sports a slightly bored out cylinder,ported exhaust,bigger carburetor,fibre reeds,irrdium spark plug,KN airfilter,longer final drive,wider bent pipe fitted onto the megaphonic pseudo expansion chamber and a rectangular box swing arm along with original Suzuki(non TVS) clutch plates.You can understand what it is now

    I felt that like every other Suzuki the GS150R too has something unusual and it has proved to be so........six gears on a 150cc air-cooled bike ,smoothness and refinement to shame the Unicorn,performance to knock almost all 150cc off their heels except the Apache RTR which is 160cc and the R15 which is LC4V....a different segment altogether.
    Last edited by MACH50; 01-10-2011, 11:17 PM.
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    • Originally posted by abhi_gsr View Post
      Hey Thanks Venu. I have not yet got a chance to test the Light Output. Will do it soon
      One more word.

      The default 35 watt bulb is not the reason for the poor performance of the head light but the focusing of the light. The light is not converging; it is diverging. Even if you use a 100 watt bulb, the result will be the same, though it may give a slightly better yellow light.

      The way to get rid of it is to redesign the reflector which Suzuki is not doing even though they have received a lot of complaints about it. The other way is to replace the reflector ourselves. It is not possible as the reflector alone cannot be removed from the assembly.

      Another possibility is to replace the head light assembly itself. No one seems to have tried it.

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      • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
        Yes, current version of GS is in perfect form as their is no need to spoil it further in the name of upgrade.
        Yes, Madhu. I think, now Suzuki is an almost perfect bike.

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        • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
          I thought you are one of them (because I know few of them ),who thought Shogun and Samurai were the same bikes
          Well, the name itself says it....shogun is king!


          the Indian RXZs always sported the RX135 engine old or new.
          Rx 135, 5 speed is mad.....Ive had the pleasure of riding a well maintained one.....never got the guts to go WOT.....just rd 350 left on my wishlist now.

          I have heard modded Shaolins does better than Shoguns
          A 34000kms old shaolin offer had come my way a year back.....had to decline it sadly as my already moth ridden pocket couldnt afford the urge, sooner or later, to mod it out.....could have told you otherwise.

          I may have seen that 16 bhp shogun here but Ive also seen quite a few 2ts fitted with discs. Anyway, no point if I cant get to ride it.

          I took it out for a pimply,teenage rampage ride and it did 125kmph on its speedometer without any hue and cry
          I learnt riding on a fiero. Didnt feel the urge to rip it in bangalore traffic but Ive pulled so many accidental wheelies just zipping up and down streets. Closest to 2t Id say. Our gsr is pakka contrast....like a bull....barely gets up on its rear. Fiero and my 2t feels like a toy compared to gs.


          There were many boys who smoked me with bikes like RX135 and even LML Energy.........while I kept the Shogun revving in 2-3rd gear
          lol.....I still couldnt get over geared bicycles then.

          I felt determined to revive the Shogun and make it a fast 2T,even if that meant turning the world over for me..........so I contacted Hosur,and got supplied. You can understand what it is now
          Hosur as in near bangalore? Didnt know suzuki spares were available here. Any names? We've had to dig around in junkyard to find original mikuni carb. Tank is samurai with a leak plugged up with m seal and turmeric. Exhaust sports a stylish dent from a dirt racing attempt. Id like to get all these replaced but dont have the patience to search heaven and hell.

          Im no motorhead but I reckon an increase by around 5bhp? slightly bored out meaning 10-15 cc increase? what kind of piston did you put in? bigger carb? Im guessing that was a shaolin carb? All that sounds like overkill for the already crazy shogun.
          Post a pic of the bike man. Its always a pleasure to look at a well maintained 2t. Mine looks good even with oil stains all over it.

          smoothness and refinement to shame the Unicorn
          dont know about that....mine seems erratic. Ill comment after 3-4 k on odo.

          performance to knock almost all 150cc off their heels except the Apache RTR which is 160cc and the R15 which is LC4V....a different segment altogether.
          Planning to drag p180, dazzler and rx 135 after 2nd service next week. Lets see. Ive no chance against rx. But Im damn sure of a win on a ghat section.
          Last edited by 2strokerama; 01-11-2011, 01:54 AM.

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          • its time for servicing my bike

            Have to go to svc for the third paid service.
            Issues are

            Disc break fuel change as my Gs crossed 8k
            Centre stand vibrates on bumpy roads
            Hope they have the clutch leaver to replace the bent one on my Gs.

            Will say no to oil change and mileage or idle tuning as it is good.
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            Last year feb 1st week Purchased my GS,
            This year feb first week getting figo titanium diesel.

            This time too my better half picked my favourite dark shade the sea grey colour.
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            • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
              Disc break fuel change as my Gs crossed 8k
              Centre stand vibrates on bumpy roads
              Hope they have the clutch leaver to replace the bent one on my Gs.


              This year feb first week getting figo titanium diesel. This time too my better half picked my favourite dark shade the sea grey colour.





              Once again congratulate you for buying Figo.

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              • @2strokerama:

                Hosur......the TVS main factory district,located in Tamil Nadu.TVS still uses the Shogun and Shaolin for different races.Hence parts are available on earnest request.

                RD350 is a bike which I rode few years back,a neighbour moved in for a few months in our locality and he had that machine in blue.My Dad being known for his biking enthu in our locality,made good friends with him.If someone rides something like a RD350 he will surely have the first hand knowledge of what pure undiluted performance means.The cops of our city uses RD350 in zones where there are fast and vast flyovers or transit bypass......few of them had been brought back to service after the Ninja 250R became a hot buy in our city

                My Suzuki Shogun hasn't gone up by 5hp.It is not possible on the 110cc set-up and basic tuning.TVS has developed Shogun engines to produce around 24bhp but a lot have been added into it.I assume judging from the pick-up exhibited my Shogun puts down around 16bhp now.It now uses the 4th oversize piston,Yamaha RXG Mikuni VM22 carb.

                Yes,I would surely post a pic of my Shogun a few days from now,when I take it for outing again.
                Last edited by MACH50; 01-11-2011, 03:44 PM.
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                • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                  Since you are from Pune, you can easily find out a reputed auto-electrician who is capable of doing this rewinding there. Approach one.
                  Let me save the OP's time and energy by saying, don't try it. No mechanic in Pune/Mumbai is capable of doing this job. Many will reject the idea, few accepting it will do it more like an 'experiment' on your expense. We DO NOT have any qualified experienced mech that does coil rewinding in/nearby Pune Mumbai, like Ruby in Banglore.

                  I have been trying for more than 5 yrs to get hold of a mech who knows such things, and each time I have been disappointed. Don't worry about rewinding, learn to live without Passlight, that way it is easier!

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                  • @ vishnu,
                    The issue is my svc guys are frightened to bring back the lever back to old position they said it may break.

                    While I was a kid my dad took me to the movie Pathir panchali but as a kid I didnt have patience to watch it did remember the train scene.

                    @ ram,
                    If you have patience and time check out the old sparer garbage in shivaji nagar in chennai its pudupet
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                    • Guys...guys....well I got my babay today..ohhhh god I am so excited....I just can't explain it in words....
                      Well I have chosed the Blue/Black dual color one....it looks awsome...will post pics soon....

                      Well thanks to you all and all those many many discussions regarding the bike....I was just more knowledgeable than all the SC guys over there.....and told them many things...about the bike...(Well it is a new showroom...
                      I nearly drove the showroom people mad with my demands...they told me that....we have never struggled so much to satisfy a customer.....as they were struggling with me...
                      Even they took a photo of me with the manager handing over me the key for thier remeberence.....

                      I chose the bike with atmost care....and inspected it for more than half an hour....I had 4 bikes to choose from...

                      Well some things about the bike...as everybody know...the rear break sucks....the mirrors are not upto the mark (my personal feeling)

                      Also I have one query for all.....Does the backlight of the speedo be burning all the time....even when we do not switch on the pilot or the main headlight???
                      I did not observe that in the showroom...as it was quite sunny....but then once I came to office.....I saw that the orange backlit always burns....when the ignition is turned on....
                      kindly clarify on this please guys......or is ther eany option to switch the backlit off....
                      Thanks....

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                      • Congrats bro. As you said the rear brakes have a lower bite(due to heavy weight), practice using both brakes. Also the LED back light remain on throughout. Isn't it cool, makes the reading visible even with glare. Don't worry the battery won't run out with that.

                        Post your pics soon.
                        Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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                        • Originally posted by Guru_007 View Post
                          Guys...guys....well I got my babay today..ohhhh god I am so excited....I just can't explain it in words....
                          Well I have chosed the Blue/Black dual color one....it looks awsome...will post pics soon....

                          Well thanks to you all and all those many many discussions regarding the bike....I was just more knowledgeable than all the SC guys over there.....and told them many things...about the bike...(Well it is a new showroom...
                          I nearly drove the showroom people mad with my demands...they told me that....we have never struggled so much to satisfy a customer.....as they were struggling with me...
                          Even they took a photo of me with the manager handing over me the key for thier remeberence.....

                          I chose the bike with atmost care....and inspected it for more than half an hour....I had 4 bikes to choose from...

                          Well some things about the bike...as everybody know...the rear break sucks....the mirrors are not upto the mark (my personal feeling)

                          Also I have one query for all.....Does the backlight of the speedo be burning all the time....even when we do not switch on the pilot or the main headlight???
                          I did not observe that in the showroom...as it was quite sunny....but then once I came to office.....I saw that the orange backlit always burns....when the ignition is turned on....
                          kindly clarify on this please guys......or is ther eany option to switch the backlit off....
                          Thanks....
                          Congrats Guru..... Welcome to GS Family....

                          R u purchased GS in Hyd? if yes then what's the on road cost of the bike & showroom in Hyd bcz One of my friend from warangal is also wanted to purchase GS.

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                          • @Guru_007- Brother,the speedo backlight LED is a DC connected unit,it will glow whenever you turn the ignition on and has nothing to do with either the pilot lamps or the headlamp............its common with all the GS150Rs and we enjoy it when riders of other Bikes appreciates it

                            The rear brake of GS150R is lemon,as always I had said,it is very dumb.....so practice your control over the rewarding front Disc brake which is perhaps better if not the best than most bikes in India.Try not grabbing the disc at one full go in braking situations,try pressing and releasing very fast....I mean within a small fraction of second press and release it five times with the rear brake fully pressed and you will stop miraculously even in panic situations.I had practiced it a lot and it really has made difference in riding now !!! Also try not to use clutch while braking,use clutch only after the bike has slowed down...the engine braking complements the normal braking then.

                            GS150R has wide handlebar which makes the RVM's(Rear View Mirror) job a bit difficult.Try to align it to a position that would suit you the best

                            Lastly,Congrats on your new purchase,I hope you would very soon adapt the GS150R and enjoy it like most of us here do.It is a bike which has turned many common folks into Biking enthusiasts
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                            • Originally posted by animeher View Post
                              Let me save the OP's time and energy by saying, don't try it. No mechanic in Pune/Mumbai is capable of doing this job. Many will reject the idea, few accepting it will do it more like an 'experiment' on your expense. We DO NOT have any qualified experienced mech that does coil rewinding in/nearby Pune Mumbai, like Ruby in Banglore.

                              I have been trying for more than 5 yrs to get hold of a mech who knows such things, and each time I have been disappointed. Don't worry about rewinding, learn to live without Passlight, that way it is easier!

                              You may be correct. I haven’t even come to Pune or Mumbai; so don’t know anyone there.

                              These kinds of works are not done by mechanics but electricians. All we have to do is to increase the turns of the magneto coil which supply current to the head light and replace the RR unit with another suitable one. Someone doing motor rewinding may be able to do it.

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                              • full DC conversion

                                Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

                                These kinds of works are not done by mechanics but electricians. All we have to do is to increase the turns of the magneto coil which supply current to the head light and replace the RR unit with another suitable one. Someone doing motor rewinding may be able to do it.
                                I used to spent some quality time with my local mechanic who is also my close friend.

                                Recently he converted a old model pulsar to DC

                                This is what he did

                                1. Checked the coil with. some watt meter like thing and took the coil unit to a place (shop) where they used to rewind the coil for fans, water pump motor and grinders
                                My mechanic told him some thing about the required electrical specification and they finished it in another couple of the days

                                RR unit is replaced with the piagio make

                                That's it all DC conversion is done.

                                The other rounda way I believe is just ullta the setup - I mean connect head lamp to DC and all other (except speedo console) to AC.
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