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  • Re: Suzuki GS150R

    ha, this is exactly what i expected punarvasu sir! you are a genius when it comes to any stuff related to the GS150R
    hats off
    Biking is in my Blood!!

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    • Re: Suzuki GS150R

      Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
      In addition to what kksin123 said, the fuel tank is antirust Teflon coated now. What is the problem with the fuel tank of first lot bike? Here is the picture of the 3 year, 7 months 24 days and four monsoons old tank of my bike. More than that, I am just 5 kms away from the seashore by road.




      Another picture of it was posted here earlier.
      Some of the GS owners active here replaced the tank due to the so called rusting but others are still continuing with the original tank without any rusting. Somebody spread the rusting scam for his own personal benefit or for other bike manufacturers.
      The torque at the rear wheel has increased by 13% in second gear, 2.5% in all other gears except first. In first gear it is about 6% less than the first lot bikes. Due to the altered gear ratios, the new bike reaches 83 kmh speed at 6000 rpm while the old bike reaches 85 kmh.


      I don’t know how you reached the conclusion about the pickup of Apache and Pulsar. I think there is a small mistake in it. Both these bikes are 5 geared. Yet the torque at rear sprocket and hence the pickup of Pulsar is pathetic than GS by about 4 to 17% and of Apache 160 by about 3 to 13% in 1st to 5th gears.
      Pulsar reaches 80, Apache 160 reaches 74 and GS reaches 83 kmh at 6000 RPM in final gear.
      Still GS is underestimated even by its owners.
      i never compared Gs with pulsar/apache..pickup is somewhat better than GS..tats a personal opinion..it may vary with individual riding skills..
      may be am soft with throttle since it is in run-in ..
      but one thing for sure, GS simply glides in 6th gear and reaches 60km/hr in 4000rpm.... couldnt go beyond since its still in run-in.
      Last edited by kksin123; 09-21-2013, 12:04 AM.

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      • Re: Suzuki GS150R

        Originally posted by segagt_0 View Post
        But the power to weight ratio plays a crucial role here.
        The kerb weight of GS is with its starter lever, leg guard, saree guard, full chain cover and centre stand together with 15.5 litres of fuel and 1.4 litre oil. Its dry weight is mere 134 kgs. Removing the saree guard, centre stand, kick lever, crash guard and fitting a light half chain cover and filling 12 litres of fuel itself lessens its weight considerably and improves the PWR or add all these to R15 and its weight increases to GS’s level.
        The power alone is not the crucial factor but gearing too. Replace the gears of 132 Nm Hayabusa with GS’s. It does not move even a single meter faster than GS at the same RPM but reaches that speed in no time due to its enormous 4130 Nm torque in first gear and 1150 Nm torque in 6th gear at 7000 RPM. Now let us replace the gears and tires of GS with that of Hayabusa. GS too reaches the speed of Hayabusa but, perhaps, after a week after it starts moving because there is no torque sufficient enough to push it hard. And it never produces the power of Hayabusa as the power depends on torque and engine RPM.
        With its kerb weight, GS gives a neat FE of 55 or more kml. How much does R15 with its 10.5:1 LC engine? As an ordinary biker with frequent short trips and occasional 350-400 kms round trips, I am more concerned about the FE and low maintenance cost of a bike. GS gives a good mileage with decent pickup and speed and is, comparatively, trouble free.
        It is good to have a better power to weight ratio but that alone is not the final word. We have to consider many other factors; I think. Anyway, the technology is advancing even though we are now extracting almost the maximum from the fuel. What left for the two wheelers are techniques like reducing the weight effectively – not the gimmicks like 5 or 6 carburettor plugs; it seems.
        Let us thank Suzuki for not trying badge engineered bikes as Honda or Yamaha or Bajaj does. See how a new bike tries to “trigger” in our market. Another one is half Hunk/Xtreme/Unicorn and half NXR Bros. Yet another miracle we are witnessing is a Duke 200 with different body and different final drive ratio. The white boss knows it is more than enough for the ‘indigenous’ Indians.
        It is a pleasure to hear from you again. Thanks for the good words about GS and hope you will be here again, probably with a new GS.

        Originally posted by SriKi.GSpian View Post
        ha, this is exactly what i expected punarvasu sir! you are a genius when it comes to any stuff related to the GS150R. hats off
        I too was sure that I am a genius but nobody else except you admitted it earlier. You are great. Thanks.

        Originally posted by kksin123 View Post
        GS simply glides in 6th gear.
        Buy half liter EP 140 oil and lithium based grease and lube the chain in every 500-750 kms and after every wash with detergent if you don’t like to lube it with engine oil. Otherwise, engine oil is enough; I believe. Whatever oil or grease you use, keep the chain always lubed and ensure that the sprockets are properly aligned when chain is tightened.
        Lube the points shown in page 6-27 and 28 of the manual. Do not lube the accelerator and clutch cables and do not try to alter the air fuel mixture even if advised by any expert.
        Buy a good carnauba wax and car shampoo like Armor All and wax the bike at least once in every month. Strictly avoid cheap Indian leather cum floor cum wood cum shoe cum all purpose waxes like Waxpol. It contains no carnauba as carnauba itself is costly and becomes more expensive when imported.
        Last edited by punarvasu; 09-21-2013, 01:41 AM.

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        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

          Picture of rear axle nut on the drive-chain side of my bike:
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          Local mechanic(closest to my residence) was reluctant tighten it further, I see why perhaps.

          1. Can we go beyond those reference lines? Or do they indicate extreme limits?
          2. Can we fit a half chain cover to GS at SVC?


          A new showroom near E-City Bangalore:

          NINESTAR SUZUKI

          Ninestar Motorcycles(Bangalore) Pvt. Ltd.
          S.No-43,Beretana Agrahara, Near SBI
          Hosur Main Road
          Electronic Post,
          Bangalore -560100
          South Karnataka
          Tel.: 080-49063333
          Mobile.: 7259512222, 9900040355, 9900040344, 9900038337
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          • Re: Suzuki GS150R

            Originally posted by punarvasu View Post

            Some of the GS owners active here replaced the tank due to the so called rusting but others are still continuing with the original tank without any rusting. Somebody spread the rusting scam for his own personal benefit or for other bike manufacturers.

            I don’t know how you reached the conclusion about the pickup of Apache and Pulsar. I think there is a small mistake in it. Both these bikes are 5 geared. Yet the torque at rear sprocket and hence the pickup of Pulsar is pathetic than GS by about 4 to 17% and of Apache 160 by about 3 to 13% in 1st to 5th gears.
            Pulsar reaches 80, Apache 160 reaches 74 and GS reaches 83 kmh at 6000 RPM in final gear.
            Still GS is underestimated even by its owners.

            One person complaining about rust could have been malice but many people complained about the rust issue on the bike. Do you still think that it misrepresented. Do note that Suzuki does not sell many GS 150s so even 100 people complaining about an issue is a very big % as compared to 100 people complaining about a Unicorn.

            I am not aware of the technical facts but on the road, from a traffic light, the Apache pulls ahead much quicker than the GS 150. For that matter, I was on a long ride recently. A friend on Apache accompanied and at any speed, the Apache pulled ahead faster.
            Regards,
            Venky

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            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

              Buy half liter EP 140 oil and lithium based grease and lube the chain in every 500-750 kms and after every wash with detergent if you don’t like to lube it with engine oil. Otherwise, engine oil is enough; I believe. Whatever oil or grease you use, keep the chain always lubed and ensure that the sprockets are properly aligned when chain is tightened.
              Lube the points shown in page 6-27 and 28 of the manual. Do not lube the accelerator and clutch cables and do not try to alter the air fuel mixture even if advised by any expert.
              Buy a good carnauba wax and car shampoo like Armor All and wax the bike at least once in every month. Strictly avoid cheap Indian leather cum floor cum wood cum shoe cum all purpose waxes like Waxpol. It contains no carnauba as carnauba itself is costly and becomes more expensive when imported.
              thanks for your suggestions

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              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                Picture of rear axle nut on the drive-chain side of my bike. Local mechanic(closest to my residence) was reluctant tighten it further.
                The mechanic seems to be right. Depending on the condition of the sprockets and chain, you can remove links from the chain to shorten it but it is not safe. A Rolon chain sprocket set costs Rs. 852/- and the hub shock absorber Rs. 52/-. Better don’t try to risk your life for a small amount of money.

                Originally posted by venkan12 View Post
                One person complaining about rust could have been malice but many people complained about the rust issue on the bike. Apache pulls ahead much quicker than the GS 150. For that matter, I was on a long ride recently. A friend on Apache accompanied and at any speed, the Apache pulled ahead faster.
                It was not as simple as you think. After those posts of pictures of a tank filled with sea or salt water or left outside throughout a monsoon to rust, everybody started complaining about rusting tank. There are smarter ones replaced the tank twice, thrice or more times within 2 years. Nobody asked why that bike was left unattended for a long to rust. See, nowadays too, the first question about GS is about its fuel tank. Anyway, my decision was to not replace the tank but it took about 3 years and 8 months to prove that I was right.
                If that RTR is 180, his fart is actually louder with more sulfur but you can catch him later as his speed at 6000 RPM will be 76 kmh and yours 83. The hindrance here is that he reaches his speed a little earlier than you.
                If it a 160, he is trying to impress others with his showoff. GS accelerates faster than RTR160 and its speed at any RPM is higher than RTR. Disengage the clutch, rev up to red line or more and release the clutch as fast as you can. There you go ahead of him if you are lucky enough to keep the bike straight with you on the seat. Better buy a 5 year, 50 lakh rupees Amulya Jeevan insurance policy from LIC for a quarterly premium of about Rs. 5300/-. The nominee gets 50,00,000, tax free.

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                • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                  Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                  The mechanic seems to be right. Depending on the condition of the sprockets and chain, you can remove links from the chain to shorten it but it is not safe. A Rolon chain sprocket set costs Rs. 852/- and the hub shock absorber Rs. 52/-. Better don’t try to risk your life for a small amount of money.
                  Can we fit a half chain cover to GS, is it available at SVC?
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                  • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                    Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                    Can we fit a half chain cover to GS, is it available at SVC?
                    It is not available at the SC. You will have to find out a suitable one. Keeping the chain clean and lubricated will be a tedious job.

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                    • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                      Originally posted by punarvasu View Post

                      Headlight beam with 60/55 watts Osram NB.


                      Damn Punnu.. That light is so far better than mine! You sure you don't have anything else brightening it all up from behind?


                      Originally posted by segagt_0 View Post
                      Mate, GS no doubt is an all round performer and is a very good bike. But the power to weight ratio plays a crucial role here. GS weighs a lot more than a normal 150 cc should and the amount of power generated by the bike is also almost as same as the competition. So I think due to the heavy weight of GS, the power of the bike is lost while pulling itself in the first place..
                      And this is coming from a 2010 GS owner. I had done 30000 kms on the GS and sold it because of its pathetic pickup at that time.
                      A what a doodle-doo?? Ahhaaaan? Thy shall not take the name of GS in vain! The Lord is watching you pulling his hair apart! LOL.. XD

                      Originally posted by venkan12 View Post
                      One person complaining about rust could have been malice but many people complained about the rust issue on the bike. Do you still think that it misrepresented. Do note that Suzuki does not sell many GS 150s so even 100 people complaining about an issue is a very big % as compared to 100 people complaining about a Unicorn.

                      I am not aware of the technical facts but on the road, from a traffic light, the Apache pulls ahead much quicker than the GS 150. For that matter, I was on a long ride recently. A friend on Apache accompanied and at any speed, the Apache pulled ahead faster.
                      One of my female Norwegian friend rode it(Apache) and said she liked it! She said it 'vibrated well'. Still can't get myself to figure out how and why is that good? I just replied that it was an Indian genius for it exercises and soothes the muscles while riding and realigns the Chakras.. (whatever that meant but she gave a bright chuckling approval to that)! Apache somehow does look like a crotch rocket!


                      @The Monk- Hey! :-) So nice of you to put a good word of advice. Thanks. I never did a speed burst ever in life except for this one occasion! lol.. But hey.. I withdrew to the side after reaching the 4th gear.
                      Last edited by trailwright; 09-23-2013, 06:00 PM. Reason: The Monk- Please don't indulge in road racing. Thanks

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                      • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                        Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                        If it a 160, he is trying to impress others with his showoff. GS accelerates faster than RTR160 and its speed at any RPM is higher than RTR. Disengage the clutch, rev up to red line or more and release the clutch as fast as you can. There you go ahead of him if you are lucky enough to keep the bike straight with you on the seat. Better buy a 5 year, 50 lakh rupees Amulya Jeevan insurance policy from LIC for a quarterly premium of about Rs. 5300/-. The nominee gets 50,00,000, tax free.
                        He was on an apache rtr 160. Yes gs is far more relaxed at any speed and I am not rev friendly. I rode within my limits but the rtr reaches a given speed faster,

                        Also with the petrol tanks, how mnay bikes of other manufacturers faced the rusting issue in the same locales.


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                        Regards,
                        Venky

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                        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                          Hi Guys..

                          Posting here after a long long time. Hope everyone is doing well.

                          Its been almost 2 and half years of owning this beast of a bike and so far its been pretty good.

                          I have made many many changes to the bike and I will try to explain to all here how it worked and whether its worth doing it.

                          In the 2 and half years normal maintenance has been performed. Oil change every 2000-3000 Km. My clutch cable has broken twice and i have replaced that for around 150/-. no change to tires or any other liquids. I have changed the chain sprokets. Didnt do this at SVC, got it done from outside. Cost was around 1000/-. Apart from that no major maintenance performed. Bike has been good to me.

                          Now for the Mods i have done..

                          1. Got the bike tuned by Joel. around 180 CC bore done and cylinder head work performed. Improved pick up drastically. Makes a stock GS looks like an elephant and very capable of facing off with other bikes.

                          2. HID kit installed. As we all know the GS has poor head lights. So I wanted to fix this and got a HID kit purchased from ebay for 750/-. installation charges were another 250/-. Well to be honest this improved the visibility drastically. But at a big cost.

                          a. Battery was taking a hit. Although nothing major, sometimes bike would not self start in the mornings sometimes.
                          b. There was no HIGH and LOW bean in HID kit. I mean there was, but honestly I don't think our GS is built for HID kits. The LOW beam was already a very HIGH beam, and the HIGH beam would not look very different from LOW beam. I tried to turn the SCREW behind the light and even though it was all the way to the end, it was not helpfull.
                          c. It caused a lot of discomfort to the opposite side riders. Many would flash their lights and sometimes even pass comments. I was not happy with this.
                          d. As it was HIGH anyways, it was sometimes difficult to spot things close to the bike.

                          FOR HID KITS,

                          Cost is around 1200 bucks. Try to get the WHITE and not the BLUE. Stock switch will not work, so you will have to install another switch on your left side of handlebar, which would make it uncomfortable to use. There are YELLOW HID also available, which are costlier. They can be made to fit with existing switch. Maybe worth investing.

                          PLEASE consider the OPP side drivers/riders. It is very uncomfortable for them.

                          3. Used HID KIT for around 4-5 months. Was not happy with it. So thought of a change to design of the front console it self. I remembered watching MI 2, in the end there is a black bike in it. I liked the dual head light concept. So i decided to get that for my bike. Got it done for around 3000/-. The whole head light console is removed and there is just two oval lights. Instrument console remains as stock one. Slight fabrication work also done to make it look "neater". Am happy with the way it looks now. how ever many people have given me different views. and as for the lighting at night. Honestly, Its only just slightly better than stock. So that aspect I am not happy. May consider changing bulbs as they are stock bulbs rights now.

                          4. Installed a naked chain cover on bike. Got rid of the old chain cover. I did this because twice, the chain cover had bent somehow and was scapping the chain. I had to un bend it to ride without any sound. So this change was made.

                          5. Widened the Handle bar and installed wider rear view mirrors. Makes the bike look a little better and gives better rear visibility.

                          6. Second trip to joel, Got 28mm carb and frew flow air filter kit installed. Along with another tune. This time, the bike really became a beast. It is fast. Very fast. although the top speed is not impressive(have only managed 124. I am quite heavy and was not crouching on a full tank of fuel) the acceleration is very impressive. Also for the FE, i am getting a consistant 45-48 after the mod.

                          So that is all that i have done on my bike. Mods also include some stickering work done at a cost of around 400/- total. I will try to post pics sometime soon.

                          Next mods will be most likely free flow exhaust(if joel can manage it).
                          Tire change maybe to something better. am still on stock tires with 2 rear punchers so far. Bike is very slippery on turns, but this has been the case since the beginning.

                          I am happy with this GS. Have covered around 27k km in 2 and half years. I am out of the country for 6 months a year at least, so the riding happens only when I am at home. Have done long rides as well, and it has not let me down so far.

                          have to find a good mechanic now for next service. Suggestions from anyone in Bangalore??
                          Last edited by KIRTIMANNAN; 09-22-2013, 07:41 PM.
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                          • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                            Originally posted by gmagesh14 View Post
                            This method will reduce the resonance which is happening at the 3.5k to 4k RPM range in GS150R..
                            Our GS brother VIKSHE has noticed it by using rubber washers in between the Silencer connecting bolts has reduced this resonance completely..
                            I too had tried in my bike and the result is same..

                            So, with his help I'm posting the pictures for your reference..

                            ALL CREDIT GOES TO VIKSHE.. Thanks friend..

                            Loosen bolt nuts on the marked area using Wrench and Hexagonal Spanner (14mm).,While removing the bolts hold the silencer with leg, dont let it to hang...


                            Put a rubber washer in between (It's easily available in any automobile shop., I'd one readily with me) and tighten the bolt nuts., That's it.,You're done...

                            Hi Magesh/ Vikshe,

                            I tried opening the bolt but was not able to do it by hand. When I went for the 4th service, I asked the Suzuki works manager to have the rubber washers installed. He took the washer and told me that it is too flimsy and that this particular nut was to be tightened with about 65 Nm of torque (not sure of the specs) and hence the washer will just break away.

                            Citing this as the reason they refused to put it in.... and the resonance continues.

                            Are there any particular specifications on what kind of rubber washer I need to buy.
                            Regards,
                            Venky

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                            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                              Originally posted by venkan12 View Post
                              ...
                              Citing this as the reason they refused to put it in.... and the resonance continues.

                              Are there any particular specifications on what kind of rubber washer I need to buy
                              ...
                              Just stop by a local mechanic and ask him to put it in. You can do it yourself if you got the right spanners; I did myself.

                              Originally posted by KIRTIMANNAN View Post
                              ...
                              I remembered watching MI 2, in the end there is a black bike in it. I liked the dual head light concept. So i decided to get that for my bike.
                              ...
                              I guess you mean this: Bike advice site
                              http://bike?advice.in/triumph-speed-triple-upgraded-2014/
                              Last edited by SparKot; 09-23-2013, 04:13 AM.
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                              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                                hey mates, is anyone facing the hard gear shifts problem in the 2012/2013 model? have you faced the problem? share your experience and how did the problem get solved!
                                am considering getting a GS but am worried about this issue!

                                P.S this is the only issue am worried about in getting the GS.
                                GS is a GEM of a bike!! #Respect
                                Biking is in my Blood!!

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