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This is absolutely true. The mech used a very old tactic on you - explain a problem as an advantage. So neither do they have to fix it nor do you go away dissatisfied.Originally posted by vensan View PostWhat my service center mechanic told was.. The front discs are fantastic in GS and the rear brakes are just for support... So the bite in rear brakes have been kept low....
never heard story in my life. till date i think rear brakes for stopping/slow down the wheel....today only i understood front is main..rear only support....
Boss the sc guys will tell lot of stories...but fact is rear brakes in GS really poor.
Don't fall for such tricks.
While it is true that the front brake would supply most of the stopping force in the ideal situation, this is not to be used for justification of a weak rear brake. The rear wheel must lock when you brake sharply (using rear brake of course). If it does not, then it is certainly weak, and hence a hazard.Last edited by Raccoon; 07-30-2009, 02:34 AM.
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Furthermore, you will also hear them say that if the wheel locks, it would lead to a dangerous situation. Hence the brake deliberatey does not grip well. This is also an excuse. The locking has to be controlled dynamically by changing the pressure you apply with your foot. The internal expanding shoes must be able to grip the drum and bring the rotation of the drum to a dead stop when a "reasonably" great force is applied on the brake pedal.
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Thanks for the info buddy... But suzuki has an idea for replacing the spring of the rear brakes... hope it will happen soonOriginally posted by Raccoon View PostThis is absolutely true. The mech used a very old tactic on you - explain a problem as an advantage. So neither do they have to fix it nor do you go away dissatisfied.
Don't fall for such tricks.
While it is true that the front brake would supply most of the stopping force in the ideal situation, this is not to be used for justification of a weak rear brake. The rear wheel must lock when you brake sharply (using rear brake of course). If it does not, then it is certainly weak, and hence a hazard.
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many people here are talking about brakes... particularly GS brakes... out of my almost 18 years of biking experience i say... drum brakes never locks the wheel... they are gradual and braking condition totally depends on the liners and the spring provided within the drum, so guys if you want better brakes then replace the liners, and locking happens only in disk brakes which is really dangerous, i have a very bad experience with that; 2 times
I feel GS brakes are upto the mark and does the intended purpose perfectly. guys get used to disk brake bikes, use front brake 70% and back brakes as a backup or support... what Suzuki provided with GS is perfect and upto the standards... the only case here is we are not used to these kind of braking system... what we got earlier is old drum brakes and later on disk with pulsar which locks the wheel... see all other international brand bikes Yamaha, Honda etc. the braking system is all the same as GS... gradual
take it purely as my view on braking system...
Bikes pickup getting better and better as days passing... leaving behind all other bikes on the road.... roaring
Last edited by sharshas; 07-30-2009, 11:15 AM.
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I don't think that is correct. Drum brakes have a greater tendency to lock up and skid compared to disk brakes. In drum brakes, braking power can not be modulated precisely - it tends to lock up after a certain point, whilst in case of disk brake, they can be modulated very precisely and one can brake right up to the edge of locking up, which is not really possible in case of drum brake. Compare front wheel braking of disc and drum equipped bikes. The difference can be clearly felt - disc brake equipped bike can clearly be pushed further. Disk brake locks up when slammed hard and even drum brake will.Originally posted by sharshas View Postout of my almost 18 years of biking experience i say... drum brakes never locks the wheel...
and locking happens only in disk brakes which is really dangerous, i have a very bad experience with that; 2 times
Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!
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Is this sound continuous ??? or ''ssrr... ssrr...ssrr" ? I too heard some sound fro the front discs only 2 - 3 days back... and that sound did not come always but only sometimes. Suzuki Zues has this problem where the sound is more prominent even with the engine on..... Probably you should get it checked in a SC.Originally posted by speed deamon View Postdude my odo has clocked to 1385 and my disc brakes r giving sound and when pushing with engine off the is some "sssss" sound frm disc brake i s it normal or shud i repot it to service center
This is indeed a better reply.... I heard some bitter experiences of my friends by getting the front wheels locked by discs.... Once I applied a sudden brake that my discs sqeeked, even then my back wheel did not raise [stopie].... The control on the bike is awesome during braking....Originally posted by sharshas View Postmany people here are talking about brakes... particularly GS brakes... out of my almost 18 years of biking experience i say... drum brakes never locks the wheel... they are gradual and braking condition totally depends on the liners and the spring provided within the drum, so guys if you want better brakes then replace the liners, and locking happens only in disk brakes which is really dangerous, i have a very bad experience with that; 2 times
I feel GS brakes are upto the mark and does the intended purpose perfectly. guys get used to disk brake bikes, use front brake 70% and back brakes as a backup or support... what Suzuki provided with GS is perfect and upto the standards... the only case here is we are not used to these kind of braking system... what we got earlier is old drum brakes and later on disk with pulsar which locks the wheel... see all other international brand bikes Yamaha, Honda etc. the braking system is all the same as GS... gradual
take it purely as my view on braking system...
Bikes pickup getting better and better as days passing... leaving behind all other bikes on the road.... roaring
Worst come worst scenario when you apply brake in a shock[due to sudden intrusion], any bike will tend to lose control....[not sure about the recently launched ones] GS handles good in this case also....
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hi friends,
today my gs wil deliver after 1st service(from aerolex b'lore)....i leave my bke 2 days back..itz suppose to deliver yesterday....since i have given a list of complaints,my sc guys needs to keep 1 more day for observation gr8 know.
my complaints during 1st serives are,
1. I couldn't find my actual millage(plz find the reason in my earlier post).
2. gear box was very smooth in up/down shifts till 500km.....later space between the gear bocomes more and more...some times i need to keep on puss ...and started sound while chnaging the gears....(this was the major complaint ,which makes my gs under observation of sc guy)
3.In low speen bke makes non-sense sound..upto 35km in in 3rd gear
4.3.k rpm vibe/resonanace in allthe gear and all the speed...
5.rear brakes problem.
6.rear suspension makes noice when i cross the speed brakes some times it feel lke back wheel without air...
7.pick up-----bocoem low day by day...till i reach my speed 50km/h ..100cc bke is easliy overtaking me.
8.1st gear neutarl lights blinking.
9.poor head lights...
by end of the day i will get my gs back......i will post the condition after some times.
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Thats right, all I wanted to say is drum brakes are not controllable like disk and behave in their own way... but one can actually feel the locking, in drum if brakes lock then the vehicle/wheel skids, but in disk if brakes lock bike will stop instead of skidding... means controlled braking... experience will make you a better BRAKER in deedOriginally posted by abhijeet080808 View PostI don't think that is correct. Drum brakes have a greater tendency to lock up and skid compared to disk brakes. In drum brakes, braking power can not be modulated precisely - it tends to lock up after a certain point, whilst in case of disk brake, they can be modulated very precisely and one can brake right up to the edge of locking up, which is not really possible in case of drum brake. Compare front wheel braking of disc and drum equipped bikes. The difference can be clearly felt - disc brake equipped bike can clearly be pushed further. Disk brake locks up when slammed hard and even drum brake will.
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HELP me
Hi All ,
Few Minutes b4 my cousin phoned me & told me that he was planning to buy Yam Gladiator or Suzuki Gs 150 . As there are not too much GS in Kochi i could not suggest him the bike . Also since the price difference btw these bikes is not that much compared to the feature differences it has .
So guys plz help me in getting a nice review of the GS 150 with your experiences like drawbacks & is it better than the other 150's around
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Originally posted by ajaskochi View PostHi All ,
Few Minutes b4 my cousin phoned me & told me that he was planning to buy Yam Gladiator or Suzuki Gs 150 . As there are not too much GS in Kochi i could not suggest him the bike . Also since the price difference btw these bikes is not that much compared to the feature differences it has .
So guys plz help me in getting a nice review of the GS 150 with your experiences like drawbacks & is it better than the other 150's around
hi friend,
1st gladiator and gs is diff segments ie :125 vs 150 premium.....and these prices 55k glad (i guess) 67k gs...around 12k diff.....personally glad125 is good in 125 segment....if u ask me 150cc gs is far better than other150cc except the roaring sound and initial pick ups... there are so many masters post in this thread from the biginning....like sam,sivkumar,animac, and so...i had this decisision after reading their post only...u can read some of my post also....
but don't confuse more by seeing all post.....sam9 post are really techno oriented.....sam,siv,ani and mine are real time experiences....so go through all post,if ur don't mind to spend 12k more u can enjoy every ride....
in my exp...in 150 segment commuter the real compat is between uni vs gs.....gs is eqally as good as uni..some area itz far best than uni.....
itz all my own view.....its ur turn .
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New Member wants to join the GS club.
Hi All,
I am following this thread continously for 2 weeks.
I at presently have a Pulsar 150 DTSi which is 3 years old. I now want to buy a new bike and I had zeroed in on the GS 150R. While doing some searching on net about the bike I hit on this forum and have been following it religiously.
I think the first thread by SAM did it. I decided to buy a GS. As I need a Commuter bike which can also be used for long drives without any discomfort.
I will be booking my bike in next month. As I have to sell off my Pulsar to raise some money.
I had read through all the probs in the bike by all the owners. It was really helpful for me.
I thank all of you guys for all the information.
I am not much of a techie in bikes. But I love riding.
So before I buy the bike I will be bugging yo all guys reagrding it. i hope you all help me.
Thanks in advance.
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