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  • Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by gs150r_gilbert View Post


    I am fine with the bike overall, but I will have the front suspension setup improved somehow, probably by using a thicker oil or a slightly larger amount of the recommended type, I don't know.
    I would not recommend using larger amount of fork oil. This last time SVC filled 150ml of fork oil instead of recommended 145ml. I feel has negatively affected front braking byte (may just be a placebo as front suspension doesn't retract fully due to extra oil).

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    • Re: Suzuki GS150R

      Originally posted by rsk_kelkar View Post
      Round headlights looks good.

      Gixxers handle bars are much flatter (Very little curves) which will give more sportier stance then clipons.

      I'm fliddling with Carb settings currently trying different turn settings and checking performance and mileage. Anybody has done this before? Can share your results?

      Thanks buddy.

      Has anyone tried the gixxer's or the fz's handlebar? any pics? looking for options!
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      • Re: Suzuki GS150R, Front Suspension, Tuning

        Originally posted by rsk_kelkar View Post
        I would not recommend using larger amount of fork oil. This last time SVC filled 150ml of fork oil instead of recommended 145ml. I feel has negatively affected front braking byte (may just be a placebo as front suspension doesn't retract fully due to extra oil).
        Hello, thank you for your kind reply. I will keep on looking for answers concerning the front suspension mod I would like to perform on my GS. Perhaps the thicker oil is better, with exactly the same amount of recommended fluid? The thing with my GS is that I usually ride in the city, and the suspension feels too soft for this kind of environment.

        Has anyone tried the
        tuning guide for GS that was being discussed here a few days ago?

        Still looking for options before upjetting. The tests will begin around here probably before the end of the week.

        Have a great rest of week everyone!

        Gil

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        • Query on lighting

          I changed the head lamp bulb from 12 V 35/35 Watts (H4) to 12 V 55/60 Watts (HS1).

          Make: Osram, Type: HS1, Cost: Rs 90

          I have not noticed any difference between the two (Though I rode with 35/35 during nights before a month and with 55/60 yesterday night)

          Low & High beam work correctly.

          The problem I face:

          When switching from Low to high beam, high beam comes up with a delay. May be a second but noticeable very clearly.

          Pass Light does not work. When at Low beam and use the Pass light switch, I see the low beam and pilot lamps going dull and the high beam does not come up.


          Any idea if this can be rectified ?

          On the other hand, I changed my Unicorns bulb to 12 V 40/40 Watts. No difference compared to stock 12 V 35/35 Watts.

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          Originally posted by gs150r_gilbert View Post
          Hello, thank you for your kind reply. I will keep on looking for answers concerning the front suspension mod I would like to perform on my GS. Perhaps the thicker oil is better, with exactly the same amount of recommended fluid?
          What rsk_kelkar has mentioned is very true.My mechanic added few ml extra fork oil to each leg on my TVS Scooty Streak. I felt a drastic difference. Bike would literally jump in any uneven road.

          Then found the recommended amount of oil from the manual and removed the extra oil from the fork.

          I am not sure of the grade of oil that can be used. I see many people recommending Bosch in my locality.

          Please experiment on your bike and let us know.
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          • Re: Suzuki GS150R PILOT BULBS

            Originally posted by RaviRaj123 View Post
            Hi _gilbert,

            It’s my pleasure to reply you guys!!

            Pilot Light: Blue color LED looks great . You will get those similar to size and design of stock bulbs from market. As there is a change in circuit now my pilot bulbs turns off after I switch on to main light.

            I purchase above particulars from one of the moto electric shop in Pune. I thinks you should do your own research for price and specification online and outside markets.
            Hello again, RaviRaj, guys... Again, I appreciate your kind response. I recently updated my comments on this thread with more details on improving the performance of my GS a I will be adding new comments soon.

            Concerning lighting, I have added a 35w xenon-type bulb that will help for a while before I opt for LEDs headlight. Light is stronger and whiter than stock, so it will do for a while. But one thing has causing some trouble: My pilot lights are now LEDs AND DC POWERED but they have trouble staying on after 15 or so minutes of riding. They seem to be overheating after a short while! I have come to the conclusion that LEDs themselves may not work well in SUCH SMALL HOUSINGS and I do not know if someone has been facing these problems with their PILOT LEDs. I mean, the light from my 6w, 12V LEDs is pretty cool but the fact that they tend to fail is kind of annoying.

            Is anyone facing such problems with their LEDs? Is there a brandname/type that works better?

            Please do share!

            Gilbert

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            Originally posted by BlackPanther View Post
            I changed the head lamp bulb from 12 V 35/35 Watts (H4) to 12 V 55/60 Watts (HS1).

            Make: Osram, Type: HS1, Cost: Rs 90...When switching from Low to high beam, high beam comes up with a delay. May be a second but noticeable very clearly.

            Pass Light does not work. When at Low beam and use the Pass light switch, I see the low beam and pilot lamps going dull and the high beam does not come up.


            Any idea if this can be rectified ?

            On the other hand, I changed my Unicorns bulb to 12 V 40/40 Watts. No difference compared to stock 12 V 35/35 Watts.

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            What rsk_kelkar has mentioned is very true.My mechanic added few ml extra fork oil to each leg on my TVS Scooty Streak. I felt a drastic difference. Bike would literally jump in any uneven road.

            Then found the recommended amount of oil from the manual and removed the extra oil from the fork.

            I am not sure of the grade of oil that can be used. I see many people recommending Bosch in my locality.

            Please experiment on your bike and let us know.

            Hello again BlackPanther, gspians... Just a few thoughts:

            * Concerning headlights, I saw a similar type of behavior (low-->high delay) when switching to xenon-type, even if the 35w feature was unchanged; but for me, the intensity is much better for both low and high beams. I mean, the quality is definitely NOT the same as stock or Osram or other leading brandnames, but the bulb is cheap and effective, about 250 rupees. Light is white-yellowish above 6000 rpm. I will report on durability as soon as I know. I have been using it only about 1700 Km now.

            * I have recently changed to Repsol Sport 10w40 and the bike is rev-happy. Of course, I still need to figure out the issue with my GS kind of running out of fuel after 8k RPM, but the oil feels good. Repsol Sport is semi-synthetic and meant for higher revving machines, so it would be more than enough for our bike.

            UPDATE: I tried the aforementioned tuning guide, but my GS had Aprox. 1.6 turns from lock (fuel screw), so, after a few tests, I decided to go for 2 full turns. 1.3-1.4 turns felt great from 1500 to about 7500 rpm; then suddenly the power dropped and the bike starting jerking. I noticed 2 turns would still not affect low rpm behavior in any important way.

            I will report more as soon as I have the info later this week. The bike is a 2015, perhaps some of you know it. Maybe the guide was written for OLDER MODELS or not facing the bike from its left side? The suggested 4.5 turns would make my GS get close to stalling instead of bringing the RPMs to a healthy 1600...

            * I will certainly try a different (thicker) fork oil but the recommended amount or just the same oil and same amount (as soon as the bike reaches about 20k Km). After all, GS has decent front suspension settings. Perhaps a slightly thicker oil will work better without adversely affecting ride quality.

            I hope GS riders trying different things to improve performance/durability of their bikes will be sharing more!

            Gil
            Last edited by gs150r_gilbert; 03-07-2016, 06:56 AM.

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            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

              My bike is June 2014 made and purchased.
              I have done 36k till date.

              Yesterday onwards I am hearing a bell ringing kind of sound from the engine. Had given for servicing and o/c. SA told me that cylinder and piston is weak and hence the sound. While servicing, he confirmed the same and asked me to change it next time.

              My questions are:
              1. Is this common ? I guess it is too early for a piston and cylinder to screw up like this.
              2. Is this the same as engine re-work ? I am a newbie to tech things and hence asking.
              3. What is the workaround till I change the piston and cylinder?
              4. When should I change the piston and cylinder now. Can I run for another 2k kms before I change?

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              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                Originally posted by deemash View Post
                My bike is June 2014 made and purchased.
                I have done 36k till date.

                Yesterday onwards I am hearing a bell ringing kind of sound from the engine. Had given for servicing and o/c. SA told me that cylinder and piston is weak and hence the sound. While servicing, he confirmed the same and asked me to change it next time.
                I'm not sure if I get your description of the sound right. I used to get such noise initially on my GS too. It was like a high frequency ringing noise. It used to be very annoying but it stopped automatically after a few months (May be I got used to it). I am suspecting it's due to resonance in the cylinder head cooling fins. Few models from TVS, Honda or even RE for that matter have this rubber damper to prevent the coolings fins vibration. Try a temporary solution with a few old tyre pieces and let us know if the sound goes away.

                BTW your service guy at least acknowledged there is some ringing noise. Mine couldn't hear any such noise though I could :P

                I'm willing to try this solution but didn't get time to work on this. I'm just hoping this would reduce whatever little vibrations we may have on our bikes
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                If you can hear distinct clicking noises you might just need to correct the valve clearances. Engine re-work seems very highly unlikely.

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                Originally posted by gs150r_gilbert View Post
                I tried the aforementioned tuning guide, but my GS had Aprox. 1.6 turns from lock (fuel screw), so, after a few tests, I decided to go for 2 full turns. 1.3-1.4 turns felt great from 1500 to about 7500 rpm; then suddenly the power dropped and the bike starting jerking. I noticed 2 turns would still not affect low rpm behavior in any important way.

                I will report more as soon as I have the info later this week. The bike is a 2015, perhaps some of you know it. Maybe the guide was written for OLDER MODELS or not facing the bike from its left side? The suggested 4.5 turns would make my GS get close to stalling instead of bringing the RPMs to a healthy 1600...

                I hope GS riders trying different things to improve performance/durability of their bikes will be sharing more!

                Gil
                Its not that 4.5 turns is suggested. The parts catalog mentions 2.0 as the default setting for the carburetor. That is why I changed mine to 2.0 and got mileage of around 48kmpl in similar riding conditions where I used to get 58-60 kmpl regularly. ( Biggest mistake I did was not to measure what was the stock setting. While talking to a friend of mine I forgot to count the turns from initial setting )
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                As per the instructions in tuning guide I set my carb to 3.0 but that had negative affect on mileage. So far all i've tried 2.0, 2.5 and 3.0 turns and every time i've got mileage between 48-52 kmpl.
                Last edited by rsk_kelkar; 03-07-2016, 04:33 PM.

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                • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                  Originally posted by rsk_kelkar View Post
                  ...Its not that 4.5 turns is suggested. The parts catalog mentions 2.0 as the default setting for the carburetor. That is why I changed mine to 2.0 and got mileage of around 48kmpl in similar riding conditions where I used to get 58-60 kmpl regularly. ( Biggest mistake I did was not to measure what was the stock setting. While talking to a friend of mine I forgot to count the turns from initial setting )
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                  As per the instructions in tuning guide I set my carb to 3.0 but that had negative affect on mileage. So far all i've tried 2.0, 2.5 and 3.0 turns and every time i've got mileage between 48-52 kmpl.
                  Thank you for your kind response, rsk_kelkar! I will continue to keep track of the changes, but I still do have one question: which of your settings is giving you a better response ON TOP of the rev range? In my case, I am willing to sacrifice a few km per liter as long as the bike reaches around 110 km/hr without any hiccups. It is important for me to keep up with fast traffic for safety reasons, just as an example, a few days ago I had a Chevrolet Aveo cut right in front of me in 100-120 Km/hr traffic, passing on my right side (without any lights, of course) and with absolutely no indication of what he was about to do, and my bike was feeling inconveniently jerky going at around 105 km/hr, leaving just enough room ahead of me for this individual's stunt. 110-115 would have been greatly welcome in this case! (I try to stay away from such tight situations, but sometimes faster traffic just keeps pushing you...)

                  I have not seen the bike get any higher than 8000 rpm with the exception of downhill stretches, where top speed has reached around 120 Km/Hr.

                  Anyway, I will look forward to your reply concerning better results on top of rev range (I have not seen any real positive inputs regarding upjetting GS, so I am not sure I want to go there yet...)

                  Again, I appreciate your help and the interest shown by the community!

                  Cheers guys...

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                  • Re: Suzuki GS150R PILOT BULBS

                    Hello again, RaviRaj, guys... Again, I appreciate your kind response. I recently updated my comments on this thread with more details on improving the performance of my GS a I will be adding new comments soon.
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                    The same specification items I found on e-bay. Providing you a reference link, just a single click away.

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                    • Re: Suzuki GS150R... LIGHTS AGAIN.

                      Hello again, RaviRaj! I will certainly try with smaller capacity pilot lights to correct the issue. I noticed that once 1/2 of the bulb had stopped working, the other half remined functioning without any problems. Perhaps 3w is still a good upper limit to try on GS. Size-wise, I kind of noticed the led was a bit too long, almost reaching the housing limits. I really appreciate your honest concern and support. So, how is your GS doing? It would be great if more GSpians would send more updates regarding their bikes to enrich this website even further.

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                      • Re: Suzuki GS150R... LIGHTS AGAIN.

                        Originally posted by gs150r_gilbert View Post
                        Hello again, RaviRaj! I will certainly try with smaller capacity pilot lights to correct the issue. I noticed that once 1/2 of the bulb had stopped working, the other half remined functioning without any problems. Perhaps 3w is still a good upper limit to try on GS. Size-wise, I kind of noticed the led was a bit too long, almost reaching the housing limits. I really appreciate your honest concern and support.
                        It is always said to have a Led Pilot lamps with multiple led's on it which causes less stress on the battery as well as creates less heat inside the housing itself making the bulb work effortlessly and will work for it's lifetime.

                        A Led pilot lamp with 6 to 12 small led will be the best option for your bike as is my case as well. the cost differs but I got mine for 30 rs each and 60 rs for 1 set( I have brought another set for back up in case these blow up by any chance). They are bright Whites with blue hues. Cost effective as well. Please go to your local Mech and ask them about led pilot lamp bulbs which are cheap, they will suggest you some to your fav color, etc.
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                        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                          " I still do have one question: which of your settings is giving you a better response ON TOP of the rev range? In my case, I am willing to sacrifice a few km per liter as long as the bike reaches around 110 km/hr without any hiccups. It is important for me to keep up with fast traffic for safety reasons, just as an example, a few days ago I had a Chevrolet Aveo cut right in front of me in 100-120 Km/hr traffic, passing on my right side (without any lights, of course) and with absolutely no indication of what he was about to do, and my bike was feeling inconveniently jerky going at around 105 km/hr, leaving just enough room ahead of me for this individual's stunt. 110-115 would have been greatly welcome in this case! (I try to stay away from such tight situations, but sometimes faster traffic just keeps pushing you...)

                          I have not seen the bike get any higher than 8000 rpm with the exception of downhill stretches, where top speed has reached around 120 Km/Hr....."
                          th / 5th gear is only way to get top speed. With 6thrd/4th

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                          • Re: Suzuki GS150R - Higher Revs

                            Originally posted by RaviRaj123 View Post
                            Hi gs150r_gilbert,

                            As per the specification GS engine should reach 8500 max-rpm and for a solo rider reaching that figure shouldn’t be an issue. If not so? Then you need to check the accelerator cable, fuel supply, air filter and watch gear to rpm ratio of your bike to reach top speed.

                            Many times accelerator cable (duel throttle cable) needs adjustment to rev to full throttle. Secondly the fuel supply through carburetor and air in ignition chamber could be inadequate to cater bikes demand. Air filter although a least factor but cannot be neglected, regularly inspect filter and you may think of alternate (K&N) etc.

                            GS150R, as you know have a wide gear ratios due to six gear hence 4th / 5th gear is only way to get top speed. With 6th gear you may not be able to cope up with engines top torque: top power ratio & it’s only meant for relaxing engine by widening plates. Rev hard, believe me your engine will definitely cross 8000rpm in 3rd/4th gears. Once you reach the optimum power switch to top gear.

                            After all your efforts, if nothing work out then I would suggest don’t spoil any factory setting of bike just press a choke for extra fuel supply in such a situation ( I do this when I have to cross 110-120 km/hr. with a pillion rider and it really works with little sacrifice of fuel ).
                            Hello RaviRaj, I have tried revving the bike harder in the lower gears and the result is reasonably decent (less jerking, THANKS!); I will make sure to have the accelerator cable adjusted, as that is pretty much the only item left out thus far. Perhaps I will go for a more free-flowing type of filter, but I recently had the stock one pressure cleaned. My theory behind the filter is that, at higher altitudes, the bike is getting less air and the TPS/TPS in combination with the CDI may be sending less fuel to compensate for the lower amounts of air being fed to the system. It is just my theory! The spark plug keeps telling me the bike is running lean on top of the range.

                            But the good news is that I have found a good balance at 1.7 turns from lock, as my GS is running with agility and missing less. I will take a look at the spark plug before the end of the week to see how things are going there. And the fuel economy should not suffer much, as I was getting a bit more than 40 Km/L on a not-so-gentle wrist.

                            I will also change my 4500 km old spark plug, as the response with a new one a few months ago resulted in better response at higher RPMs. I believe I can afford to just get new a new iridium every 2 or 3 months. But there are a few things left before upjetting. I really like this bike and I am planning to keep it for a while, it is truly a great value for the money motorcycle and a really underrated one here. If I manage to "fix" this one (and I think I am getting CLOSER), I may just get a good 2016 one for about 75% of the showroom price next year, after I have sold this one with about 35,000 Km. People here are selling them after a few thousand kilometers or a few months, probably because of the missing issue, so I might just take advantage of that and get a new color. The special edition black and yellow would be my favorite.

                            Thank you again for your kind support and patience... and again, thank you for your help concerning lights (please see reply below).

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                            Originally posted by shadcool786 View Post
                            It is always said to have a Led Pilot lamps with multiple led's on it which causes less stress on the battery as well as creates less heat inside the housing itself making the bulb work effortlessly and will work for it's lifetime.

                            A Led pilot lamp with 6 to 12 small led will be the best option for your bike as is my case as well. the cost differs but I got mine for 30 rs each and 60 rs for 1 set( I have brought another set for back up in case these blow up by any chance). They are bright Whites with blue hues. Cost effective as well. Please go to your local Mech and ask them about led pilot lamp bulbs which are cheap, they will suggest you some to your fav color, etc.
                            Great advice, ShadCool, RaviRaj! Yesterday I changed the larger capacity bulbs (I tested them and they were working ok, so they can still be used on my car or someone else's) and replaced them with the new 9-led ones (only 1.8w). The light is pretty decent and I could not feel any overheating once installed. I will keep on using them to check out performance/durability on the long run. BTW, I noticed the white ones I got are about 100 lumens, but the blue ones, same model, are only 25 lumens...

                            Have a great rest of your week Shad, RaviRaj and everyone!
                            Last edited by gs150r_gilbert; 03-15-2016, 10:45 AM. Reason: Details

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                            • Re: Suzuki GS150R - Higher Revs

                              Originally posted by gs150r_gilbert View Post
                              Hello RaviRaj, I have tried revving the bike harder in the lower gears and the result is reasonably decent (less jerking, THANKS!); I will make sure to have the accelerator cable adjusted, as that is pretty much the only item left out thus far. Perhaps I will go for a more free-flowing type of filter, but I recently had the stock one pressure cleaned. My theory behind the filter is that, at higher altitudes, the bike is getting less air and the TPS/TPS in combination with the CDI may be sending less fuel to compensate for the lower amounts of air being fed to the system. It is just my theory! The spark plug keeps telling me the bike is running lean on top of the range.

                              But the good news is that I have found a good balance at 1.7 turns from lock, as my GS is running with agility and missing less. I will take a look at the spark plug before the end of the week to see how things are going there. And the fuel economy should not suffer much, as I was getting a bit more than 40 Km/L on a not-so-gentle wrist.

                              I will also change my 4500 km old spark plug, as the response with a new one a few months ago resulted in better response at higher RPMs. I believe I can afford to just get new a new iridium every 2 or 3 months. But there are a few things left before upjetting. I really like this bike and I am planning to keep it for a while, it is truly a great value for the money motorcycle and a really underrated one here. If I manage to "fix" this one (and I think I am getting CLOSER), I may just get a good 2016 one for about 75% of the showroom price next year, after I have sold this one with about 35,000 Km. People here are selling them after a few thousand kilometers or a few months, probably because of the missing issue, so I might just take advantage of that and get a new color. The special edition black and yellow would be my favorite.

                              Thank you again for your kind support and patience... and again, thank you for your help concerning lights (please see reply below).

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                              Great advice, ShadCool, RaviRaj! Yesterday I changed the larger capacity bulbs (I tested them and they were working ok, so they can still be used on my car or someone else's) and replaced them with the new 9-led ones (only 1.8w). The light is pretty decent and I could not feel any overheating once installed. I will keep on using them to check out performance/durability on the long run. BTW, I noticed the white ones I got are about 100 lumens, but the blue ones, same model, are only 25 lumens...

                              Have a great rest of your week Shad, RaviRaj and everyone!
                              No issues, the blue ones give a higher output being only 25 Lumens while the whites are decent.
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                              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                                Touched 5000 kms in six months today. My first significant landmark.

                                I am planning to put kind of brass tiger/lion idol on the front mud guard, like the one on Royal Enfield bikes. Will it look good. Guys anyone tried it. I am sure it should look better on GS than on most other bikes due to the heavy build
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