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  • Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
    Good going! Now use the remaining 20W-50 in the same way (To add that extra 100 ml). Gulf 4T Pride Plus - the oil that's strawberry red. Where did you buy it (shop name, location). Use SGP filter as much as possible, but yes, very vaguely remember PSR sir telling Apache filter is a direct fit. It comes with a rubber washer on inner end no?

    1.
    Bought from a nearby local shop in poonamallee.

    2.why did old oil MOTUL 15w50(3500kms) smell like fried up(burnt smell).?

    I centre of the filter was in black color
    Didn't check it dono weather its plastic or rubber .where as in SGP it is metal
    Last edited by Durai; 11-30-2015, 05:25 PM.

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    • Re: Suzuki GS150R

      Originally posted by roamer19 View Post
      Hello friends,

      As usual, I prefer to be around the motorbike (GS150r) when it is being worked on, today was no different. I was shocked to learn following:
      1) chain cleaning and lubrication was done without even opening the chain cover. Bill said Rs 150 for this job.
      2) brake pads were not cleaned, nor checked
      3) greasing and various lubrications was carried out BEFORE water washing
      4) nothing was done in the name of battery check
      I would like to know what all places in the bike we should the general lubrication and what materiel can we use to do the same?
      Till now I only lube the chain once every 500 KM and leave everything with the svc guys.

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      • Re: Suzuki GS150R

        1.Is my spark sparkplug color normal?
        8200kms on odo..

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        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

          Originally posted by getvmurali View Post
          I would like to know what all places in the bike we should the general lubrication and what materiel can we use to do the same?
          Till now I only lube the chain once every 500 KM and leave everything with the svc guys.
          Check ur owner manual .Places to be lubricated with grease and oil is clearly mention..check for lubrication in index page of manual.

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          • Re: Suzuki GS150R

            Mine is 4 yr old bike and i don't have the manual with me. Can you guys help in any other way?

            Sent from my HM NOTE 1W using xBhp Connect mobile app

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            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

              Originally posted by getvmurali View Post
              Mine is 4 yr old bike and i don't have the manual with me. Can you guys help in any other way?

              Sent from my HM NOTE 1W using xBhp Connect mobile app
              Grease..
              Clutch lever
              Side stand
              Stand spring hooks

              Oil..
              Clutch cable (svc says no need to but I use to do).
              Gear shifter
              Centre stand.
              Brake pedal.
              Key(very sparingly).
              Brake rod near rear drum (wipe it with oil to prevent rusting)

              Chain (oil or grease as u wish).
              Last edited by Durai; 11-30-2015, 06:50 PM.

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              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                Originally posted by Durai View Post
                Grease..
                Clutch lever
                Side stand
                Stand spring hooks

                Oil..
                Clutch cable (svc says no need to but I use to do).
                Gear shifter
                Centre stand.
                Brake pedal.
                Key(very sparingly).
                Brake rod near rear drum (wipe it with oil to prevent rusting)

                Chain (oil or grease as u wish).
                Thanks a lot Durai. What grease do you recommend? And how to oil the clutch cable? I have not seen that so far.

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                I am planning to replace both the tires. Currently I am on stock tires.
                Which brand would be the best? I wanted good grip in both dry and wet condition. Pls suggest

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                • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                  Originally posted by Durai View Post
                  2.why did old oil MOTUL 15w50(3500kms) smell like fried up(burnt smell).? ..
                  Because of overuse . 3000kms or 6 months , whichever comes earlier, is general recommendation for motorcycle oils . Considering high ambient temps , polluted air , so so quality fuel , stop and go city traffic etc, I drop oil around 2000 kms or 4 months max . Any longer and oil gets watery , smells and feels exactly as you have seen . I don't trust the current "extended drain" crap either . Better to buy cheaper oil and drain early than costly oils and try to extend it .
                  From your plug it seems you are running a slightly rich mixture and in city traffic . Also the compression washer appears not fully compressed . For a new plug , it's 1/2 turns after fully threading & seating the plug by hand , for re-used plugs it's 1/8 - 1/4 turns .
                  Last edited by Pinaki; 12-01-2015, 12:49 AM.

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                  • Re: Suzuki GS150R - MISSING AT HIGHER RPMS - SPARK PLUG

                    Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                    @Rajesh1136: You are right as far as the names go,but I have a tendency to look and experience beyond just names
                    CR7HIX- C-hex size 5-8,Resistor-type,7-graded cold type,H-half thread,Iridium Nine(IX)
                    CPR7HSA-C-hex size 5-8,P-Projected type,Resistor-type,7-graded cold type,H-half thread,Standard special design A.
                    CR7HSA-C-hex size 5-8,Resistor-type,7-graded cold type,H-half thread,Standard special design A.

                    So what does it mean................
                    Iridium plugs are meant for constant ignition and higher temperatures as natural.Standard plugs do not have that character.
                    The only difference here seems to be the P,the main doubt.
                    P means projected electrode,this design was developed for Zeus and GSR both,reason being providing a higher temperature during combustion at lower rpms.The projected electrode,delves further(by 1mm only) into the combustion chamber,so that it gets constantly drenched in flame and sparks constantly for providing ample high temperature at lower rpms for torque.
                    But on Iridium plugs this is not required,iridium sparks are already far more constant and sparks regularly at higher temperatures by default,projected tip on this type of plug is not recommended as engine may overheat.The Iridium spark plug thus keeps the low-end performance of your bike similar to the stock,but where the plug really shines is in high-end and mid-range along with a lifespan longer than the stock plug and with a better fuel efficiency.
                    P-type spark plugs are not recommended on bikes meant for high performance,at higher temperatures these projected tips gets worn down very fast,so to a person for whom the GSR is an all-rounder,his stock spark plug would end its life soon.Signs of bad spark plug,low pick-up in the whole rev-range,wearing out of the ceramic insulator,too much carbon deposits and broken tip.
                    Non-projected sparkers are always for high performance machine,they dont have the risk of getting scorched at mid and high end throttle inputs when the temperature is huge in the combustion chamber.

                    The Iridium advantage.......though non-projected but being plug of higher induction temperature,the low end support from this plug wont vary from the stock plug performance,but at mid and high rev ranges,where the life of spark plug is truly put to test......it passes with flying colors as Iridium plugs melts at uber high temperatures so no tip breaking,being non projected-no ceramic insulator wearing due to high combustion temperature and superb performance and fuel efficiency for constant sparks and better combustion performance.

                    GS150R and Zeus both were recommended as commuters by the market,so the company followed suite.But in reality GS150R is an all-rounder,so anyone who expects better performance and FE from their bikes can use the CR7HIX without any doubt.

                    P.S. even with this amount of logic and tech,people may ask- how come I am so convinced?? Then let me answer,I used the Access 125 CR6HIX on my Zeus which uses CPR6HSA stock.......and my Zeus never did complain,no carbon deposits or this or that,I still have the iridium plug and its like brand new.My Zeus which was slightly modded with all these was the fastest accelerating 125cc in my city and most Fuel Efficient too.


                    There is no possibility of mud getting into the gas-shock chambers,or into the suspension.They are all well covered and are put together very tightly.Muds only on the surface,only needs the wash-off
                    The only region of concern here is mud scouring the chain,so the chain must be kept oiled during monsoons.
                    Yes,pressure wash is the only way to reach behind the suspension coils to wash the mud off.
                    Dear MACH and XBHP friends,CPR6HSA, CPR7HSA and G-power spark plugs are not sold in my state, by the way.

                    My question is: should I go for a colder plug (perhaps CR8HIX?) to attemp to correct the problem? I have noticed the bike can and DOES get hotter than usual under the above conditions, and that plastic cover on top of the engine is certainly NOT helping the mill to dissipate all that heat.

                    Can CR7HSA be misfiring because of the higher temperature? (The problem is not there at lower rpms).

                    Do you think CR7HIX / 8HIX will perform better than stock and give a decent boost in power to make the missing feel less (or even better, MAKE IT DISAPPEAR)??

                    BTW, I have been offered upjetting the carb, but I am not sure since that should affect the great fuel efficiency of the bike (40 kpl, even though my rides usually include lots of traffic in Mexico City). Lots of mikuni options to donate jets to my GS here.

                    I really like this bike and I would not want to sell it or change it for another bike... Anyway, next year GS will be discontinued in my country instead of being fixed and updated. So no 200cc GS with FI and rear disc brake for Mexico. They are offering the last GS's with a significant discount of about 8%. I hope someone with a low-mileage 2015 special edition GS150r will hate his bike after a few thousand Kms to buy it from him in about 1.5 years.

                    Any help regarding plug or jetting will be GREATLY appreciated.

                    Gilberto
                    Last edited by gs150r_gilbert; 12-02-2015, 09:41 AM. Reason: Needed to add a few more details

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                    • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                      Originally posted by getvmurali View Post
                      I would like to know what all places in the bike we should the general lubrication and what materiel can we use to do the same?
                      Till now I only lube the chain once every 500 KM and leave everything with the svc guys.
                      Hello, sorry for late reply.

                      As another user has rightly replied to your question, the owner book shows all these points which require lubrication/greasing. I refer the same during servicing as it's difficult for me to remember the points. I just have a look at the book and remind the mechanic incase he forgot something.

                      happy riding

                      cheers,
                      roamer

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                      • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                        Changed to Shell Ultra FS 10W40 around 1000 KM ago after using Castrol P1 SS three times. The latter is a good oil and I had no issues getting a genuine one thanks to the guy from where I get the bike serviced. However, I wanted to try FS oil and took the bait on Amazon when the Shell FS oil was offered in a lightning deal. Bought two bottles since they were quite cheap and the reviews too were good. But on delivery found out that the oils are from a year old batch (Aug 2014 to be precise).

                        So far, I have not experienced any great difference from the previous Castrol oil. Gear shifts are smooth as usual but I guess that is more down to the fact that I regularly oil the chain at 500 KM interval. Also changed the oil filter when going FS for the first time. Spare parts guy at the dealership told me the Access oil filter is a straight fit on the GS. Also bought a clutch cable and a set of accelerator cables as spares. I know I won't be needing them for a while but I just cannot come to trust the Suzuki dealers in my town to stock these two when I do need them suddenly.

                        I also usually get the bike serviced when draining oil at 2K KM. Skipped it this time and changed oil only to FS. So it has been 3K KM since last service and the bike is running faultlessly. Total mileage on the ODO is also nearing the 16K mark.

                        Plus a word on the lighting aspect of the bike. After much reading and confusion, i decided to go with an Osram NB 60/55W a few months back and although it was lots and lots better than the stock bulb, I am disappointed nevertheless. Bike is still non-DC by the way. After initial hesitation with HID, I finally decided to go for it along with a friend. It should be operational in a week.

                        P. S. - A big thank you to all posters and GS owners who are still active on this thread. Gratitude also flows back to older members who have moved on to other bikes or have become busy with life and its challenges. I spend so much time reading this thread and the wealth of information is amazing. Hoping to see some of the older members active again!

                        Last edited by eternoMind; 12-04-2015, 12:04 PM.

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                        • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                          Access, Swish, GS150R, Gixxer twins and Slingshot all share the same oil filter. This is a clever move adopted by many companies to ensure easy availability, lessen costs and avoid confusion (among SVC not us ).

                          P.S. I hope other chennaites are safe like me. Don't venture out unnecessarily till the flood situation stabilizes.

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                          • Re: Suzuki GS150R - MISSING AT HIGHER RPMS - SPARK PLUG

                            Originally posted by gs150r_gilbert View Post

                            My question is: should I go for a colder plug (perhaps CR8HIX?) to attemp to correct the problem? I have noticed the bike can and DOES get hotter than usual under the above conditions, and that plastic cover on top of the engine is certainly NOT helping the mill to dissipate all that heat.

                            Can CR7HSA be misfiring because of the higher temperature? (The problem is not there at lower rpms).

                            Do you think CR7HIX / 8HIX will perform better than stock and give a decent boost in power to make the missing feel less (or even better, MAKE IT DISAPPEAR)??
                            I would go for CR7HIX, it certainly doesn't guarantee fixing your motorcycle's issues. This experiment will be an expensive affair in itself.
                            In India(Bangalore) I would go for CR6HIX.
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                            • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                              Hi all,


                              So I just wanted to update my ownership experience with GS 150R since it has been four months now since my purchase.
                              Earlier I was using Unicorn 150 for a year, which I bought second hand. The vehicle was very smooth, but after the first month, I tried to put an engine oil other than Honda (Shell AX7), the smoothness was gone completely and never recovered it again. Very disappointing and thought of never experimenting henceforth .
                              Then I wanted to buy a new Unicorn 150, as I really was addicted to its smoothness and its peppy engine, but then it was stopped. I never really liked the 160 one as it is not as smooth as the earlier model and looked like a smaller bike.
                              The options I had were GS150, which I have test driven so many times and liked its smoothness, and then Yamaha SZR which is also kind of executive type as I don’t prefer sports bikes. I was very particular about a Japanese brand. My head said, going to Yamaha will make sense as it is a reasonably decent selling vehicle than a soon-to-be discontinued bike. I checked with multiple dealers in Bangalore, they said GS is discontinued. Then I checked with Suzuki customer care number, they confirmed the same. I wrote a mail to their customer care, and then got a reply from 9Star saying they have couple of vehicles available.
                              So now following my heart or head. SZ was less powered, but looked stylish, smooth and a decent bike. GS is the bike, which my heart wanted at last. It is smoother and suited my build and with stuffs like gear indicator, sixth gear, display console, it looked a premium bike than others.
                              Then I decided to buy it in August, and had a great satisfaction following my heart than head.
                              In my four months of ownership, the positives are
                              Bike is smooth (other than 3.5-4.5 rpm range)
                              Suits my build
                              Good midrange pickup
                              Digital console
                              Bigger seat than unicorn
                              Suspension much better

                              Cons
                              The vibration at 3.5-4.5 rpm is really annoying. Wanted to skip that range fast, accelerated and fell once at a turn.(it was my mistake, but man those vibrations were annoying). If I knew about this engine vibration in that range earlier, I might have taken a different decision.
                              The peppiness in the engine and the fun to ride factor, which is there in Unicorn is not there , or not yet found by me. GS is more of mile muncher and don’t know, even I am not able to hear the rhythmic exhaust note, which I get in Unicorn.
                              But overall, if I forget the cons, the bike is a mile muncher. I can ride it for hours and hours with out getting tired. I am not much satisfied but not much disappointed either. I have done close to 3k kms, and believe once the engine settles down, it would get better.

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                              • Re: Suzuki GS150R

                                Originally posted by raja1982 View Post
                                I checked with multiple dealers in Bangalore, they said GS is discontinued. Then I checked with Suzuki customer care number, they confirmed the same. I wrote a mail to their customer care, and then got a reply from 9Star saying they have couple of vehicles available.
                                Still not discontinued!
                                Do you mean Suzuki India Customer-Care or some SVC in Bengaluru?

                                Don't throw that front(gs150r) at corners, esp if tarmac is in poor condition.

                                Originally posted by raja1982 View Post
                                The vibration at 3.5-4.5 rpm is really annoying.
                                I remember reading about rubber mounting set-up for the silencer/muffler, which was the cause of this vibration. I think it was rsk_kelkar who did it.
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