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  • Originally posted by alkemyst View Post
    one more ques i have for all the bikers.. the max speed i had done till yesterday was 105 on a pulsar, but yest i rode at 120 on GS and it started wobbling heavily.. is it common for all the bikes/bikers?
    No, bigger capacity bikes having stronger frames don't wobble at high speeds! My 220 starts to vibrate once past 125. Moreover the 1000 cc bikes don't wobble even at 200+speeds.

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    • @alkemyst:
      I think 120 could be a speedo error... real speed might be 115-117 kmph. bcos very rarely 150cc commuter bike goes beyond 115 kpmh..

      @ssivakumar:
      Took time to comprehend info given by u. good work. How did u come to know this ?
      Last edited by Shadowfax; 05-11-2009, 11:31 AM.
      6 Speed Cruising >>--->>--->> Flying In Heaven

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      • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
        he he... they have already spent more time developing the GS150R than anyone else did for any other bike made in India. Well over 2 years.
        Dunno what Suzuki's take on these petty niggles
        sir ur the most capable one in this thread i guess ........ what is ur take on the bike ??? it might help us !!! .... do u think the cons i mentioned are invalid?

        Originally posted by Shadowfax View Post
        @alkemyst:
        I think 120 could be a speedo error... real speed might be 115-117 kmph. bcos very rarely 150cc commuter bike goes beyond 115 kpmh..

        @ssivakumar:
        Took time to comprehend info given by u. good work. How did u come to know this ?
        bro did u take the test rides
        i asked the SC guys on this matter and they told me sir.... iska top speed 108 kmph hain is it true??? what written in the catalogue?
        Hope is a good thing ,
        may be the best of things and
        no good thing ever dies .

        Get busy living or get busy dying .

        - The Shawshank Redemption .

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        • Originally posted by Shadowfax View Post
          @alkemyst:
          I think 120 could be a speedo error... real speed might be 115-117 kmph. bcos very rarely 150cc commuter bike goes beyond 115 kpmh..
          it reached 116 on normal terrain... n then 120 was on slope

          Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
          wobbling depends on various factors. First, 120 KMPH is a lot of speed and many cars wobble at such a speed. Dunno how good the GS150R is at such speeds but several factors do add in to the situation -

          - tyre pressure - are you absolutely sure that your tyres are not over inflated? Tough one as most air filling points have inaccurate meters.
          - how much of cross winds did you have? open highways generally have a lot of it.
          - how smooth/rough the tarmac is... unless it is a smooth black top you don't get very good grip for your tyres at that speed with cross winds.
          - Don't worry, in such conditions even the ZMA, P220 and R15 face this problem... the intensity would vary a little bit among each bike.
          even i checked the tyre pressure after wobbling.. it was 25-35 psi.. u say the air filling points may have inaccurate meters, then i cant b assure of the correct info..
          tarmac was smooth... national highway.. dint think of crosswinds at tht tim but now i remember, yes it was there..
          and the question arose, not because i was suspecting GS's abililty to run on high speeds.. i was suspectin my ridin skills only.. i heard if the biker's weight is very less then the bike may wobble at high speeds(don know how true it is)
          I like to meditate a lot.. On my BIKE!

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          • Originally posted by alkemyst View Post
            it reached 116 on normal terrain... n then 120 was on slope
            Then its impressive speed.

            Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
            bro did u take the test rides
            i asked the SC guys on this matter and they told me sir.... iska top speed 108 kmph hain is it true??? what written in the catalogue?
            Not yet. Today is a bit a busy for me. Will try GS today eve. Then may be tomorrow Cbz-x. And yes the cons u mentioned I think are valid. But I will have to confirm and check intensity of those cons. I still don't have clear picture of those cons in my head.
            6 Speed Cruising >>--->>--->> Flying In Heaven

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            • Originally posted by alkemyst View Post
              it reached 116 on normal terrain... n then 120 was on slope

              even i checked the tyre pressure after wobbling.. it was 25-35 psi.. u say the air filling points may have inaccurate meters, then i cant b assure of the correct info..
              tarmac was smooth... national highway.. dint think of crosswinds at tht tim but now i remember, yes it was there..
              and the question arose, not because i was suspecting GS's abililty to run on high speeds.. i was suspectin my ridin skills only.. i heard if the biker's weight is very less then the bike may wobble at high speeds(don know how true it is)
              dont ride at such high speeds considering the brakes arent good..... in urgent situation if u arent an experienced riders ..........
              just concerned bout ur safety bro

              and superbikes weigh much higher than these normal puny bikes ....... so considering their weight to me much higher than any rider.......
              does it wobble , i dont think so..... who told u this??

              Originally posted by Shadowfax View Post
              Then its impressive speed.

              Not yet. Today is a bit a busy for me. Will try GS today eve. Then may be tomorrow Cbz-x. And yes the cons u mentioned I think are valid. But I will have to confirm and check intensity of those cons. I still don't have clear picture of those cons in my head.
              lol ,,,,,,, u drive it ,,, if u are a sharp person you will easily notice the mid vibs that we are talking about ....
              n also tell me how is it good in tackling the pot holes ,,,,,,,,
              Hope is a good thing ,
              may be the best of things and
              no good thing ever dies .

              Get busy living or get busy dying .

              - The Shawshank Redemption .

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              • Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                dont ride at such high speeds considering the brakes arent good..... in urgent situation if u arent an experienced riders ..........
                just concerned bout ur safety bro

                and superbikes weigh much higher than these normal puny bikes ....... so considering their weight to me much higher than any rider.......
                does it wobble , i dont think so..... who told u this??
                i jus wanted to check the max speed of bike.. else even i ride at max 90.. cant say i am an experienced rider, but yes, i am a OK OK rider so will take care next time.
                that weight funda came up in a discussion with few friends(none of them greatly experienced).. dint know how true it was, so just asked.
                anywys, when are u plannin to buy one??
                I like to meditate a lot.. On my BIKE!

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                • You guys may see more of me in this thread...I'm replacing both my bikes with one big bike&one commuter. The obvious choice for the commuter being the GS!
                  Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                  • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                    You guys may see more of me in this thread...I'm replacing both my bikes with one big bike&one commuter. The obvious choice for the commuter being the GS!
                    You are selling your lovely Fiero? Keep that and sell the R15.
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                    "Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall."

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                    • Originally posted by Shadowfax View Post
                      @ssivakumar:
                      Took time to comprehend info given by u. good work. How did u come to know this ?
                      I finished BE in MECH Engg, and doing a project in modifying pulsar engine... so for that (and by that) i got lot of info about engines and vibration.

                      AND I too feel minute change in behavior of my bike when it crosses 30 @3rd gear... engine is not strained... its free running (power produced by engine is almost linearly vary with its speed, so when the load is very less compared to the power produced then engines will run freely) this is not a problem... i touched 85 @3rd gear as shown in GS's advertisement... (for eg consider a flour grinder... u can feel the difference when it is grinding the flour than running with empty vessel) thats y for smooth riding manufacturers gave a speed range for each gears... if u r not convinced... TRY THIS choose a uphill location (a flyover) now ride the bike on it with lower gear... you wont feel it as the engine is loaded heavily compared to plain road... so dont be scared of this experience (high speed in lower gear) there is nothing to worry about this.
                      ya i accept that my previous post is a bit technical... Sorry if u feel bored i will try to put it in a common language... and please dont put mr. in front of my name :P i am one among you.
                      Last edited by ssivakumar.r; 05-11-2009, 04:19 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by nightwing View Post
                        You are selling your lovely Fiero? Keep that and sell the R15.
                        I'm selling both.
                        Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                        • mileage u got?

                          Any one got less mileage in GSR 150R,I did'nt check yet but it looks 40+kmpl for me , my odometer also covered less 470km only...
                          Is fixing a tank bag spoil the look....?
                          any body fixed hook cum handle? there is no provision to fix hook cum handle
                          ABDUL KHADAR
                          currently using GS150R
                          PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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                          • Originally posted by alkemyst View Post
                            looks like this bike is made for long drives only.. its very smooth at high speeds and rough below 60(in my case only, no1 else has this problem).. touched 120 today, but it started wobbling heavily which scared me, so brought down the speed.
                            I cant believe the problems you are reporting....."wobbling" at 120???? First I could not reach 120 one this bike. I was full throttle at 113 and reached at 115 max but wobbling man!! cant believe, if that is the case something was seriously wrong, coz my bike was ROCK SOLID at its max speed and when I say rock solid trust me I am NOT over estimating, or exaggerating. forget wobbling I could not feel an inch of diffrence while driving at 115 and 95 except that the opposite wind was too heavy.........get you bike checked man, tyre pressure or something I dont know.......
                            anybody else tried at that speed and I would really like to know the experience

                            PS:: I missed HYD post on this......yes wind also plays a big role in giving you a miss conception that the bike wobbles, I remember driving at kinda rainy weather with quite a bit of wind......when I could feel my bike wobbling at even 70 so yes if that was the case, one can justify....
                            Last edited by sam9s; 05-11-2009, 06:40 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by ssivakumar.r View Post
                              in GS when u drive it in this rpm range u feel a mild vibrations (very small magnitude). this is not engine flaw... if it is engine flaw then the bike should vibrate even at stand still (stationary) at 3-4k rpm range... but i checked it doesnt THE ACTUAL REASON FOR THIS IS piston crank mechanism cant be completely balanced (fact) so all engines will produce vibrations, the point is to minimizing(using balancer shafts) it and damping(rubber mounts) it... there is some thing called resonance( if the exciting frequency matches with natural frequency of the system then the system will vibrate in high amplitude) here GS is system and its engine is the source of vibration... Shock absorbers, Tyre's stiffness contributes a SPRING and entire weight of vehicle is MASS this will contribute a spring-mass system... well it is known that these two parameters determine the natural frequency... i think GS's natural frequency lies in this range so it produces resonance... there is nothing to worry about this, GS has cute engine As sam said they are minimizing as the time... BIKES WILL SHOW ITS BEST PERFORMANCE AFTER completing 10000kms or more... So enjoy the ride
                              Ssivakumar, Nice explanation there ! But you forgot to mention about damping, motorcycle has several dampers (dashpot in vibration langauage), shock-absorbers, swing-arm, rubber fitments,tyres etc etc, so essentially motorcycle represents Sprin-Mass-Damping system..not just spring-mass.

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                              • Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                                Ssivakumar, Nice explanation there ! But you forgot to mention about damping, motorcycle has several dampers (dashpot in vibration langauage), shock-absorbers, swing-arm, rubber fitments,tyres etc etc, so essentially motorcycle represents Sprin-Mass-Damping system..not just spring-mass.
                                Ya dashpot is the important component in the vibrating system (damper is thing that absorbs the energy in vibration) thanks for reminding... i just introduce the topic to make all clear about that resonance problem... and u know damping factor is neglected in forced vibration(negligible effect)... used only in free vibration... in GS case forced vibration is due to Engine's imbalance, free vibration is due to travelling on potholes and bumps which will induce it in suspensions... and damping factor is a complicated thing(we skipped this topic during our exams ). thats why i didnt bring the damping concept (though by name its simple... its highly complicated which we cant calculate using mathematics... its determined by only experiments). so i dont want to confuse anyone by tech stuffs... just i want to say that 3-4k rpm resonance is a silly thing to worry

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