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  • Originally posted by mathewsyriac View Post
    Hey, even i feel the same bro
    Initially, i used to blame the castrol oil, now even after trying an alternative brand (Mobil) the issue still remains
    It become rough after driving for few KMS, at times when revved too hard, it tends to become smooth
    I believe, it is because of expansion of engine parts due to heat...
    Hi brother me too changed to Mobil super 4T 20w 40.... after driving bike for 50km ...the bike is smooth but some sort of sound increasing.....After ramzan sending bike to pondy thru subdealer here
    Did u see no of bore changing increasing for 2009 some specific batch....DRIVE ME CRAZY
    ABDUL KHADAR
    currently using GS150R
    PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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    • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
      hmm @kasperrmat even you got the bore and piston replacement hmm is yours 2009 model? since suddenly there seems to be a lot of 09 models who are getting the bore and piston replacement.

      On 1 part this is good that they have found some issues and are solving it on another this should not have happened at all,

      Why not a total recall of all 09 models or specific models of 2010 makes it easier.
      Recall is the word not used by suzuki...instead they wait for a person to come and ask to solve the defects, to decrease the no of rush towards service center.)..Ok City guys can easily do...., but what the Guys like out of city and bought in SUB dealer including me(most of SUB DEALER don't have facility to change bore and piston)
      SO it won't happen ....
      ABDUL KHADAR
      currently using GS150R
      PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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      • Originally posted by akfara View Post
        Hi brother me too changed to Mobil super 4T 20w 40.... after driving bike for 50km ...the bike is smooth but some sort of sound increasing.....After ramzan sending bike to pondy thru subdealer here
        Did u see no of bore changing increasing for 2009 some specific batch....DRIVE ME CRAZY
        lol loved the last part any way man don't worry it is good at least they are doing something that telling sorry. Lets hope that there are no more cases like this i am myself going tomorrow or day after to SVC to see what is happening with the noise issue.

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        • Originally posted by mathewsyriac View Post
          Hey, even i feel the same bro
          Initially, i used to blame the castrol oil, now even after trying an alternative brand (Mobil) the issue still remains
          It become rough after driving for few KMS, at times when revved too hard, it tends to become smooth
          I believe, it is because of expansion of engine parts due to heat...

          Ya, thats exactly how my engine behaves too..
          Which batch is your bike from ?
          (Mine is from august 09 batch, and i bought it in august 09 too)

          Sometimes i rev to 8k in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears and it seems to become smoother after that for few kms, did the same thing today too.
          (i've used shell advance, shell fast trac, and the SC veedol oil. veedol was the worst, but this issue is noticeable with the shell oils too)

          I'll be giving my bike for servicing(8th one) in 2 days, i'll ask them about this issue and tell them quite a few people got a new bore immediately after sending mails to suzuki, i'll update here on how they reply to it.

          I have a pretty long list of things to tell them this time,
          2 r***ing parts.
          rectifier issue(BA to CA)
          engine issue
          fix the carb(this was my fault, i tried tuning and now the idling behaves weirdly)

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          • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
            hmm @kasperrmat even you got the bore and piston replacement hmm is yours 2009 model? since suddenly there seems to be a lot of 09 models who are getting the bore and piston replacement.

            On 1 part this is good that they have found some issues and are solving it on another this should not have happened at all,

            Why not a total recall of all 09 models or specific models of 2010 makes it easier.
            Mine is 2010 January made.......yeah it is like experimenting new vaccines on trail basis on voluntaries(we the early gspians) with/without expected outcome,but with improved results on every next level of releases.......so we are some sort of voluntaries......sadly the vaccine(gs 150 r) potency is not up to expected level of a renowed company like "suzuki".Hence they are sorting out the drawbacks and addrressing the issues on new refined models like the 2010 gs......and giving booster doses(replacing the malfunctioning parts) to victims like us.so moral of the story is think twice and wait for some time before zeroing on a newly launched model .

            The total recall you have mentioned is mouth watering...but alas they will never comply with it....but only replacing the concerned ones...
            Even though they resort to replacing parts like "piston and bore" but we are not going to get the near perfect ones like the "revamped 2010 gs 150 r"

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            • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
              @MIHIR: Fuel efficiency would be in tune of 52-55kmpl with the mods..........GS150R would be the most fuel efficient performer bike then.Ask me why???......Its because,apart from increasing fuel load in correct proportion(mind it,I am talking about a 4T carb part here,its specific),we are also going to induce correct amount of air to complement it.Since it would be difficult to go for a total carb change as our bike runs Dual throttle,so we will balance the air ratio part with the KN filter.Then neither the higher fuel load would be rich,nor the bike would run leaner due to free air flow.
              Actually,KN increases efficiency if ridden economically.Leaner mixtures increases FE.But if you start pushing the bike around thinking you have induced a rocket with KN,without balance the carb likely.......you'd be making a big mistake,you will gain some low end torque but would lose FE most of the time.
              My custom mod,for my bike are well crafted out,so that it does exactly what I expect.Nor more.....saving the FE,nor less "catch me if you can"

              .
              hmmm i got what you have stated.
              Upjetting n KN combo looks killer..
              yes i now totally agree that people dont bother to check A/F mixutures while running bike like rocket with KN on-board. key to FE goes only through carb tuning ACCORDING to style of riding...

              n with 4 turns i get FE of either 40-45 or 60-64kmpl i dont understand why this happens in similer riding conditions, same pertrol bunk....i think it may be due to petrol bunk is stealing some petrol....
              i ll try difffernt petrol pump this time

              MEAN
              MACHINE
              MEAN RIDER

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              • Originally posted by kasperrmat View Post
                .so moral of the story is think twice and wait for some time before zeroing on a newly launched model .
                Mr Vinod Natarajan Sir, Please Note it,I hope ur silently watching this thread,Hope for Good help from U ,For all of Us(atleast for south based) We will remember u forever for giving US booster doses(replacing the malfunctioning parts)
                Last edited by akfara; 09-07-2010, 08:55 PM.
                ABDUL KHADAR
                currently using GS150R
                PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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                • Time to test the efficiency of Suzuki Service centers

                  Hi Guys,

                  Nice to see lots of new GS owners and useful discussions in the thread.. Keep going guys.. The amateurs (includes me ) need the help of the Pros

                  Ok.. Here is a quick update...

                  I have completed 9700km on the ODO... Running on ELF MOTO 4 GOLD 20W40 Mineral oil for the past 2k Km... The things I noticed with this oil are no cold start issues, engine gets heated very soon, good fuel efficiency (I am not sure whether FE is linked with engine oil)

                  Ok.. I got my bike from swapna suzuki (Anna Nagar, Chennai)... I was servicing my bike with them initially..But now they have shut down and I have go to ABT Suzuki (Nandanam, Chennai) everytime.. It was making me irritated to go to nandanam from ayanavaram for the service... Plus whatever the issues I say to them (includes paid services), the bikes comes back to me the same way (except for it is water washed and cleaned )... But I dont get time to get back to them and report those issues after their pathetic service...

                  My bro owns a HH Passion PLus and he services his bike in castrol bike zone (kilpauk)...
                  I went to castrol bike zone with my bro and asked a mech over there to take a ride in my bike...

                  The problems i reported to him:

                  1) Whenever I engage the clutch, shift the gear up and release the clutch the bike gives a little jerk and then moves freely. It was happening in all the upshifts (I was complaining this issue to suzuki service guys for almost 3 times but no use.. They said it was an issue with clutch play and they have fixed it but they havent found the root cause)

                  2) Silencer was misfiring rarely (Not often)

                  3) Rear brakes not sharp (A typical complaint of any GS owner )

                  AFter the test drive the mech gave me the following explanations:

                  1) He told that there is a part called wheel rubber (sorry that i cant give the exact term). The wheel rubber thing in the rear wheel co ordinates with the chain and other stuffs and helps in gear shifting. He told that if there is problem with that (maybe an issue with the part or due to improper alignment) this jerk thing happens. He also told me that this issue will make the chain to loosen very soon... Bang.. He was very right.. I used to go to local mechanics in 2 weeks after service for tightening my chains. He impressed me... He told that he will check it and change it if it needs to be (it will cost around 100 bucks)

                  2) He told this happens if the spark plug gap is not set correctly and if its unclean... He told he will clean the spark plug and the carburettor.. He also told that if the issue persists even after these fixes then there is an issue with some electronic unit (sorry for not giving the exact term ).. Then I need to go and sue the suzuki fellas

                  3) All the bikes with alloys comes with some rear brake shoes which doesnt wear off easily and doesnt give sharp braking.. I asked him whether its only with GS. He said nope.. He told that he has to harden it manually.. Then the brakes will do fine...

                  4) Checked the oil level and told me that it looks good and i can do another 1k easily

                  After all his professional explanations for the issues (I am not sure whether the SC guys knows about these really) I decided to go for the service with castrol bike zone.

                  GOLD SERVICE - Rs. 355 (the same being charged in service centers but with no resolution for all the issues)


                  That too this castrol bike zone attends to not more than 15 bikes per day with 6 mechanics (I know that suzuki service center runs with 6 mechanics for 30 - 40 bikes per day)

                  There are also 2 other services
                  1) Prime service (125 bucks - Oil change, tighten brakes and basic service) (I think Suzuki service center does only this )
                  2) Silver service (250 bucks)

                  He recommended to go for castrol racing synthetic oil for my next change (Castrol MArketing their product.. No offence meant here)

                  I asked him whether he has serviced any GS before.. He told he has got 3 customers who comes to him regularly.. He even told me that he ll get me an intro with them

                  This gold service has lots of other things (suspension adjustment, wheel overhauling, wax polishing, carburettor cleaning etc etc) which I forgot to include. Will post you in detail after getting my bike back

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                  • ^^^ The ELF MOTO GOLD engine oil is TOTAL $HIT & also the ABT nandanam service is not so good. Try out the SMK suzuki in velachery.
                    Failure should never go to heart & success should never go to head,both makes a person to fall in life-Winston Churchill


                    Yesterday is history.
                    Tomorrow is a mystery.
                    Today is a gift, That is why it is called \"Present\".

                    Enjoy every moment.

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                    • Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post
                      ^^^ The ELF MOTO GOLD engine oil is TOTAL $HIT & also the ABT nandanam service is not so good. Try out the SMK suzuki in velachery.
                      I feel that going to nandanam ABT from ayanavaram is a big headache and now u are asking me to go to Velachery .... I have to spend 100 bucks for petrol itself to and fro from velachery for service

                      Anyways thanks for the suggestion.. I ll shift to a synthetic oil on my next change... Thinking of Shell..

                      How about castrol racing synthetic?

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                      • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
                        I am out of town now

                        Hey you said after turning once you got 60 rite which means settings is right probem may be somewhere else

                        Try this

                        Once your bike reaches reserve reset trip meter A to zero then go to shell and add one ltr petrol
                        Tell the petrol bunk guy to take off his hands from the petrol gun after started filling (coz they did a tactic of holding the petrol flow thus he took close to 30 % petrol.

                        Just drive normally once you hit reserve just check the trip meter that ill show the exact mileage

                        Buddy thanx for the advice..I actually follow the reserve to reserve method. Once it reaches to reserve I'll put the trip A/B to 0. I used to do same thing when I had pulsar before.

                        By the way that 56-58 kmpl mileage was before tuning the bike not now. Well at this kind of segment we can't expect 100cc mileage. Since GS has got the capacity to deliver more mileage & also because I've got before I don't want to loose that fig at least within a year of purchase.
                        " If you ride like there's no tomorrow, there won't be !!! "

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                        • Originally posted by Bubbly View Post
                          Hi Guys,

                          Nice to see lots of new GS owners and useful discussions in the thread.. Keep going guys.. The amateurs (includes me ) need the help of the Pros

                          Ok.. Here is a quick update...

                          I have completed 9700km on the ODO... Running on ELF MOTO 4 GOLD 20W40 Mineral oil for the past 2k Km... The things I noticed with this oil are no cold start issues, engine gets heated very soon, good fuel efficiency (I am not sure whether FE is linked with engine oil)

                          Ok.. I got my bike from swapna suzuki (Anna Nagar, Chennai)... I was servicing my bike with them initially..But now they have shut down and I have go to ABT Suzuki (Nandanam, Chennai) everytime.. It was making me irritated to go to nandanam from ayanavaram for the service... Plus whatever the issues I say to them (includes paid services), the bikes comes back to me the same way (except for it is water washed and cleaned )... But I dont get time to get back to them and report those issues after their pathetic service...

                          My bro owns a HH Passion PLus and he services his bike in castrol bike zone (kilpauk)...
                          I went to castrol bike zone with my bro and asked a mech over there to take a ride in my bike...

                          The problems i reported to him:

                          1) Whenever I engage the clutch, shift the gear up and release the clutch the bike gives a little jerk and then moves freely. It was happening in all the upshifts (I was complaining this issue to suzuki service guys for almost 3 times but no use.. They said it was an issue with clutch play and they have fixed it but they havent found the root cause)

                          2) Silencer was misfiring rarely (Not often)

                          3) Rear brakes not sharp (A typical complaint of any GS owner )

                          AFter the test drive the mech gave me the following explanations:

                          1) He told that there is a part called wheel rubber (sorry that i cant give the exact term). The wheel rubber thing in the rear wheel co ordinates with the chain and other stuffs and helps in gear shifting. He told that if there is problem with that (maybe an issue with the part or due to improper alignment) this jerk thing happens. He also told me that this issue will make the chain to loosen very soon... Bang.. He was very right.. I used to go to local mechanics in 2 weeks after service for tightening my chains. He impressed me... He told that he will check it and change it if it needs to be (it will cost around 100 bucks)

                          2) He told this happens if the spark plug gap is not set correctly and if its unclean... He told he will clean the spark plug and the carburettor.. He also told that if the issue persists even after these fixes then there is an issue with some electronic unit (sorry for not giving the exact term ).. Then I need to go and sue the suzuki fellas

                          3) All the bikes with alloys comes with some rear brake shoes which doesnt wear off easily and doesnt give sharp braking.. I asked him whether its only with GS. He said nope.. He told that he has to harden it manually.. Then the brakes will do fine...

                          4) Checked the oil level and told me that it looks good and i can do another 1k easily

                          After all his professional explanations for the issues (I am not sure whether the SC guys knows about these really) I decided to go for the service with castrol bike zone.

                          GOLD SERVICE - Rs. 355 (the same being charged in service centers but with no resolution for all the issues)


                          That too this castrol bike zone attends to not more than 15 bikes per day with 6 mechanics (I know that suzuki service center runs with 6 mechanics for 30 - 40 bikes per day)

                          There are also 2 other services
                          1) Prime service (125 bucks - Oil change, tighten brakes and basic service) (I think Suzuki service center does only this )
                          2) Silver service (250 bucks)

                          He recommended to go for castrol racing synthetic oil for my next change (Castrol MArketing their product.. No offence meant here)

                          I asked him whether he has serviced any GS before.. He told he has got 3 customers who comes to him regularly.. He even told me that he ll get me an intro with them

                          This gold service has lots of other things (suspension adjustment, wheel overhauling, wax polishing, carburettor cleaning etc etc) which I forgot to include. Will post you in detail after getting my bike back
                          please give the address.. of that castrol bike zone, i am also from chennai. but my bike behaves excellent after attending free service camp ( changing the piston and cylinder)

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                          • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
                            lol loved the last part any way man don't worry it is good at least they are doing something that telling sorry. Lets hope that there are no more cases like this i am myself going tomorrow or day after to SVC to see what is happening with the noise issue.
                            Hi Adi. Hope you are doing good. yours two tone bike right ? so your engine should be fine. may be it needs some tappet adjust.

                            Suggestion to all ... don't think limmediately that ur bike needs bore piston change. it may be some other issue also. ask the SVC guys to check throughly

                            Originally posted by kasperrmat View Post
                            Mine is 2010 January made.......yeah it is like experimenting new vaccines on trail basis on voluntaries(we the early gspians) with/without expected outcome,but with improved results on every next level of releases.......so we are some sort of voluntaries......sadly the vaccine(gs 150 r) potency is not up to expected level of a renowed company like "suzuki".Hence they are sorting out the drawbacks and addrressing the issues on new refined models like the 2010 gs......and giving booster doses(replacing the malfunctioning parts) to victims like us.so moral of the story is think twice and wait for some time before zeroing on a newly launched model .

                            The total recall you have mentioned is mouth watering...but alas they will never comply with it....but only replacing the concerned ones...
                            Even though they resort to replacing parts like "piston and bore" but we are not going to get the near perfect ones like the "revamped 2010 gs 150 r"
                            how its feel after changing the bore piston ? im getting exactly what you got and i bought jan batch bike.

                            how much they charged ? i feel atleast for engine oil they will charge for me. not sure.

                            due to work i couldnt go today but got call from svc saying bike is ready and they even tested by riding some 20 kms its seems. will get bike tomorrow morning.

                            @akfara... im really sorry about your situation. and to answer your earlier question. if the svc works dedicated one day enough to change bore piston and one day for testing.
                            Last edited by rajesh1136; 09-08-2010, 12:45 AM.
                            Rides: HH SPl (2000-2005) | TVS Vic GLX (2005-2010) | S GS150 R (Current)

                            Gears: Scoyco JK -17 | Cramster Twister | Cramster Bionics | Vega Boolean

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                            • @ kishore (rskk89) wanna talk to you just PM your number we will talk on next monday

                              @ Bubbly
                              I believe SMK is in porur believe that's close to anna nagar rite.


                              Regarding the engine issue:

                              I passed 5200 kms and not facing any problem its smooth and good even after Rev. Hard for more than 10 or 15 kms


                              @Akfara its better for you to book an appointment with pondy dealer and go to him push hard and get it replaced,

                              our GS engine is AAE (all aluminum engine)expansion is the character of the metal it happens on all bikes that comes with aluminum engine.

                              But the point is in some GS bikes (not all) the engine roughness issue occurred if aluminum expansion is the reason for thak thak sound or roughness means it would be happening on all GS including the 2010 model
                              I believe they put the suzuki jet cooling technology to overcome this.

                              So it may be something else that caused this and that made the engine problem on few bikes that's what I believe.

                              Am not supporting the manufacturers, but to be frank we should accept no manufacturer will release a bike just like that.

                              Every component will be QC complaint and every bike went thru extreme testing before releasing out.


                              I learn the above fact coz 10 yrs back I got an opportunity to visit one of the bike manufacturing unit till that time I used to call that company bike as crap one(even now many are telling like that) but after seeing their Quality check and entire manufacturing plant and final testing on extreme conditions I admitted my wrong assumption on any manifacturer.


                              Happen to meet a mechanic working with yamaha dealer in trichy he said synthetic oil does spoil the engine by sticking some addictive sort of thing on the piston and other parts in the engine thus the engine behavior is not audible for the user because of the silent engine user feels engine is cool but inside the engine is getting bad because of the oil am not sure if he is right or not is that true ? Some one tell me please
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                              • hello to sam (thread owner)

                                Okay let's ask the first citizen (thread owner)

                                Uncle sam please give your feed back on the following

                                1. Have you faced rusting issues ? If yes shortly tell us what happen

                                2. Did that grinding noise issue is there on your GS ?

                                3. Have you faced any of the majorly talked issues in our thread ?

                                Asking this questions to you as you are the very senior GSR owner in xbhp, so your inputs are verymuch valuble inputs for us

                                At last howzzz ur GS
                                And do let us know if you want to convey any special info for us
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