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  • Originally posted by antonysg View Post
    Buddy we all know that bigger bikes are heavier, but they also have more power. A 250cc 25 bhp CBR can easily pull 167 kg weight, and you wont even feel it. But a 13.5 bhp 150cc bike will be lethargic with 149 kg weight.

    It is not just about weight; it is about power-to-weight ratio.

    The toyota etios 1500c weighs around 900 to 930 kg, depending on model. To counter this, now Tata is working on a new model manza and vista, and one of their stated objectives is to reduce the weight by 40 kg.

    If Tata can do it. Why cant suzuki?

    Anyway, the weight of gs150r is in the same range as Pulsar, Hunk, CBZ, and Unicorn, and all these are 7 to 8-year old bikes, but gs150r is 2 years old, so suzuki could have been ahead of the competition in terms of power-to-weight ratio.

    And what was the purpose of a new model? just cosmetic changes? After all the hype that white gs150r created, the new tech specs are a bit of a disappointment.

    Dazzler is better as it is a 14 bhp 138 kg with a power to weight ratio of 1:9.9. Poor GS is 13.8 bhp with 134 kg and its power-to-weight ratio is a pathetic 1:9.7. That means GS has 1 bhp for every 9.7 kgs and Dazzler has it for every 9.9 kgs.

    GS is a 149 kg bike and Suzuki is not trying to reduce its weight. But who is compelling you to buy this ‘lethargic’ bike which cannot carry its own weight? Most of us are pushing – not riding – our bike due to this "lethargy".
    Last edited by vishnukmd; 10-14-2011, 03:06 AM.

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    • Originally posted by newfan View Post
      I checked the new gs in the showroom
      • There was no change in the design of tank cap
      • even the rectifier unit was the same.
      black bike with red stickering looks really hot

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      • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
        What is the problem of our bike’s RR and tank cap?
        since this bike has seen couple of RR units before, so was expecting an upgrade again.

        Rusting still persists in few new bikes too(like mine and not disgracing the bike), reading the previous posts here the real culprit has been the design of tank cap.
        Last edited by newfan; 10-13-2011, 10:56 PM.

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        • Originally posted by antonysg View Post
          It is not just about weight; it is about power-to-weight ratio.
          Even then, you have forgotten one very important thing..........our GS150R do well compensate for its weight.

          You must have forgotten that the Torque produced by the GS150R is 13.4Nm@6000rpm and for Honda Dazzler it is only 12.74Nm@6500rpm.

          In low end and midrange rpms when the weight is most felt, the GS absolutely rocks with solid torque delivery and that shows very well when you go plantedly cruising on the highway.The torque makes travelling easy even with its weight.

          And why do we need to see pwr to wt on such bikes meant for basic power commuting ?
          What good would we get out of it.
          A stock GS and a stock Dazzler would register similar 0-60 and 0-100 kmph times.Infact the GS150R shows very good roll-on times in any gear and is utterly comfortable at high speed cruising.So the weight do not matter at all.

          Rather the weight makes riding heavier bikes feel easy for GS owners due to continous adaptation to weighty bike handling.

          We all know Enfield bikes........they all make bad pwr to wt but are still the preferred tourers and people even loves their nature.The Torque makes it easy always.

          GS has got a good weight and I definitely love it,it really feels like and travels like a big bike.All it needs is a bit more power and torque in the stock condition.

          A souped up GS150R is a very different bike and I know it well.

          If you really want to know the magic of power to weight and high compression magic, then pls go and ride any Supersports 600cc or Supersports 1000cc bikes.You would know what is pwr-wt at that time .

          Suzuki's own GSX750R makes 150bhp and weighs 167kg only........any comments about it ????
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          • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
            Even then, you have forgotten one very important thing..........our GS150R do well compensate for its weight.

            You must have forgotten that the Torque produced by the GS150R is 13.4Nm@6000rpm and for Honda Dazzler it is only 12.74Nm@6500rpm.

            In low end and midrange rpms when the weight is most felt, the GS absolutely rocks with solid torque delivery and that shows very well when you go plantedly cruising on the highway.The torque makes travelling easy even with its weight.

            And why do we need to see pwr to wt on such bikes meant for basic power commuting ?
            What good would we get out of it.
            A stock GS and a stock Dazzler would register similar 0-60 and 0-100 kmph times.Infact the GS150R shows very good roll-on times in any gear and is utterly comfortable at high speed cruising.So the weight do not matter at all.

            Rather the weight makes riding heavier bikes feel easy for GS owners due to continous adaptation to weighty bike handling.

            We all know Enfield bikes........they all make bad pwr to wt but are still the preferred tourers and people even loves their nature.The Torque makes it easy always.

            GS has got a good weight and I definitely love it,it really feels like and travels like a big bike.All it needs is a bit more power and torque in the stock condition.

            A souped up GS150R is a very different bike and I know it well.

            If you really want to know the magic of power to weight and high compression magic, then pls go and ride any Supersports 600cc or Supersports 1000cc bikes.You would know what is pwr-wt at that time .

            Suzuki's own GSX750R makes 150bhp and weighs 167kg only........any comments about it ????

            A bit earlier he was against the weight distribution. Dazzler, the bike he is to buy is worse than GS in terms of power to weight ratio. The problem is not power or weight and he has nothing to say against any other bike. He is continuously trying to defame GS for a very long time.

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            • Originally posted by newfan View Post
              since this bike has seen couple of RR units before, so was expecting an upgrade again.

              Rusting still persists in few new bikes too(like mine and not disgracing the bike), reading the previous posts here the real culprit has been the design of tank cap.
              Design of tank cap is right and this tank mouth rusting happens with all bikes to some extent. The drain hole is positioned in left side of tank cap assuming that the bike will be standing on side stand on a leveled ground and all water will drain out.
              Rusting in GS has to do with poor surface coatings. Suzuki seriously needs to do something about this. On my bike's tank the lacquer coat has come undone. I am hoping to get a replacement.
              anything that can go wrong will surely go wrong at the wrong time and the wrong place

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              • Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
                Design of tank cap is right and this tank mouth rusting happens with all bikes to some extent. The drain hole is positioned in left side of tank cap assuming that the bike will be standing on side stand on a leveled ground and all water will drain out.
                Rusting in GS has to do with poor surface coatings. Suzuki seriously needs to do something about this. On my bike's tank the lacquer coat has come undone. I am hoping to get a replacement.

                The main reason is the salty, humid air of the coastal region and keeping the tank empty for long period of time. Most of us are filling petrol for 50/100 rupees after reaching reserve level.
                Suzuki is allowing replacement of rusting tanks even after the warranty period. Get it replaced and, if possible, keep it almost always full.




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                • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                  The main reason is the salty, humid air of the coastal region and keeping the tank empty for long period of time. Most of us are filling petrol for 50/100 rupees after reaching reserve level.
                  Suzuki is allowing replacement of rusting tanks even after the warranty period. Get it replaced and, if possible, keep it almost always full.




                  Does the use premium fuels with additives or adultrated ones has its part in accelerating this rusting process????

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                  • Has anybody used anti rusting sprays or know about the cost?
                    In today's world, quotes don't matter. Quotas do!

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                    • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                      Dazzler is better as it is a 14 bhp 138 kg with a power to weight ratio of 1:9.9. Poor GS is 13.8 bhp with 134 kg and its power-to-weight ratio is a pathetic 1:9.7. That means GS has 1 bhp for every 9.7 kgs and Dazzler has it for every 9.9 kgs.
                      Dazzler 14 bhp and 138 kg kerb
                      so comarpare Gs150r 13.8 bhp and 149 kg kerb (not 134 kg dry)

                      I said gs150r weight is in the same range of pulsar, unicorn, hunk, and Cbz. I never mentioned dazzler.

                      Pulsar, hunk, Cbz, unicorn are all 8 or 9-year-old bikes. Gs150r is just 3 years old. Suzuki had a chance to leap-frog the competition, and they did try that with engine balancer and 6th gear in gs150r.

                      But with 149 kg kerb bike weight they are on par with the competition, not better than the competition specs. Sales people tell prospective customers it weighs 150 kg. They dont even mention the 134 kg dry weight on their website nor in the showroom.

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                      • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                        Even then, you have forgotten one very important thing..........our GS150R do well compensate for its weight.

                        A stock GS and a stock Dazzler would register similar 0-60 and 0-100 kmph times.Infact the GS150R shows very good roll-on times in any gear and is utterly comfortable at high speed cruising.So the weight do not matter at all.
                        I never compared gs with dazzler. I said the weight of gs150r is in the same range of pulsar, unicorn, hunk and cbz.

                        Pulsar, hunk, Cbz, unicorn are all 8 or 9-year-old bikes. Gs150r is just 3 years old. Suzuki had a chance to leap-frog the competition, and they did try that with engine balancer and 6th gear in gs150r.


                        But with 149 kg kerb bike weight they are on par with the competition, not better than the competition specs. Sales people tell prospective customers it weighs 150 kg. They dont even mention the 134 kg dry weight on their website nor in the showroom.

                        Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                        We all know Enfield bikes........they all make bad pwr to wt but are still the preferred tourers and people even loves their nature. The Torque makes it easy always.
                        Bullet is 350cc with 20 bhp power, 28 Nm torque and weights 185 kg. That is 200cc more than 150cc, so it has good power-to-weight ratio.

                        Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                        GS has got a good weight and I definitely love it,it really feels like and travels like a big bike. All it needs is a bit more power and torque in the stock condition.
                        So you feel gs150r needs a bit more power and torque?? Does not reducing weight by a few kg achieve the same thing ?

                        Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                        If you really want to know the magic of power to weight and high compression magic, then pls go and ride any Supersports 600cc or Supersports 1000cc bikes.You would know what is pwr-wt at that time .

                        Suzuki's own GSX750R makes 150bhp and weighs 167kg only........any comments about it ????
                        Thats what i am also saying. Why is not suzuki creating this power-to-weight ratio magic in gs150r? Why no effort to reduce weight by a few kg in new model. Why this step-motherly treatment to this common man's bike? They definitely have the technical capability to do it.

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                        • Originally posted by antonysg View Post
                          I never compared gs with dazzler. I said the weight of gs150r is in the same range of pulsar, unicorn, hunk and cbz.

                          Pulsar, hunk, Cbz, unicorn are all 8 or 9-year-old bikes. Gs150r is just 3 years old. Suzuki had a chance to leap-frog the competition, and they did try that with engine balancer and 6th gear in gs150r.


                          But with 149 kg kerb bike weight they are on par with the competition, not better than the competition specs. Sales people tell prospective customers it weighs 150 kg. They dont even mention the 134 kg dry weight on their website nor in the showroom.



                          Bullet is 350cc with 20 bhp power, 28 Nm torque and weights 185 kg. That is 200cc more than 150cc, so it has good power-to-weight ratio.



                          So you feel gs150r needs a bit more power and torque?? Does not reducing weight by a few kg achieve the same thing ?



                          Thats what i am also saying. Why is not suzuki creating this power-to-weight ratio magic in gs150r? Why no effort to reduce weight by a few kg in new model. Why this step-motherly treatment to this common man's bike? They definitely have the technical capability to do it.
                          Suzuki intention is to made a good bike for commuting around the city and also with potential capability of touring.weight of GS is an advantage to make bike more study and planted at high/low speeds ,i am happy with my GS and not having any complaint about it ,event being heaviest ,tallest and bigger bike in this segment my GS returning 58 KMPL in Hyderabad's Traffic conditions and most of time with pillion . i don;t know about Dazzler but i am quite satisfying with GS with decent pickup ,mileage , top speed and with very good roll on figures as well.if suzuki really wanted to made a bike with minimum weight and more power they could ,because they had have wide range of bikes in international markets. weight of the bike never be a problem ,may weak ,short persons may
                          find it's difficult to park,lift this but an average man will never find any probelm

                          atlast i just want to say one thing is Suzuki as a one of the biggest automobile manufacturer in the world knows how to make a bike much better than u & me...
                          Last edited by raviteja@suzuki; 10-14-2011, 03:18 PM.

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                          • Hi all, getting my new bike next week., Since ABT is not conform about its arrival, booked my Black Gs150r in JAV Motors Adyar, .
                            One more GS'pian added to the list..

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                            • Originally posted by gmagesh14 View Post
                              Hi all, getting my new bike next week., Since ABT is not conform about its arrival, booked my Black Gs150r in JAV Motors Adyar, .
                              One more GS'pian added to the list..
                              Welcome Bro, congrats on your new bike.
                              we are waiting for initial ownership experience and pictures..

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                              • Originally posted by raviteja@suzuki View Post
                                Welcome Bro, congrats on your new bike.
                                we are waiting for initial ownership experience and pictures..
                                Thanks friend., will post soon..

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